Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want?

Read my entire statement... if you are giving copies of something away... you're little caveat or addition doesn't really add any justification to this.

You're still taking something and copying it, making changes and then selling the copy. Even if you are buying another legitimate version of it, you are still selling a copy of it. Case closed, end of story... you are not selling the original once you rip it - and sell that ripped version. Re-sell the original disc/file you purchased all you like - once you copy/rip it, it's a whole other story...


And (the method I keep bringing up) actually costs the original creator money . . . how?

Yeah. It doesn't cost the original creator anything.



And the modifying party has taken credit for the original creator's work . . . how?

Oh yeah, he hasn't done that either.




. . . . which means that morally speaking, copyright principles don't apply to the situation anymore. The only conflict here is that the original creator doesn't like the alternate versions existing. That alone should not be grounds for legal action against the modifying party IMO. That is allowing the OC's opinion to intrude on the modifier's rights.

Copyright laws don't exist to keep original creators happy. They only exist to protect original creators' rights to profit off their work. When there is no challenge to the OC's profit potential, and there is no threat to the OC's credit for his work (which is really just a longer-term indirect profit potential), then the law should be done with the issue.
 
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Moving forward, let's stick to the thread topic and not derail the thread further with another copyright/recasting debate... and just as a reminder, here is the thread topic:
Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want? :)
 
Yeah... I'm kind of tired of reading the same regurgitated crap said in every way possible... :X

I say clean this thread of the annoying BS. Or start over.

Let's get back on the topic.

And for the 2 or 3 people repeating their diatribes ad-nauseum... WE ALL GET WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY !

ENOUGH ALREADY.

Moving forward, let's stick to the thread topic and not derail the thread further with another copyright/recasting debate... and just as a reminder, here is the thread topic:
Could Disney finally give us the remastered, unedited Star Wars we want? :)
 
Not before 2020 and after that not without an agreement with Fox. End of thread.
Except in the unlikely event that Disney and Fox come to some sort of deal whereby they both profit from it. But then we get into the same discussion we've had with Spider-Man and the x-men joining the Disney MCU and whether or not it would be monetarily worth it for all parties involved.
 
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Is it an established fact that these two companies refuse to work together period? Listening to some, you'd think so.

I think it's imminently possible to find middle ground. In the end, Fox has the most to lose as Disney can deny them the right issue anything.
 
Except in the unlikely event that Disney and Fox come to some sort of deal whereby they both profit from it. But then we get into the same discussion we've had with Spider-Man and the x-men joining the Disney MCU and whether or not it would be monetarily worth it for all parties involved.

It's a little different from that, in that Fox can't really "do" anything with the franchise, other than keep burning and releasing discs (no idea if the license also attaches to streaming rights). By contrast, as long as they keep making movies, Fox can keep doing X-Men films until whenever the license expires, if it ever expires all.
 
There was an unreleased "Fantastic Four" movie made because of that issue in the early 1990s. The studio paid Roger Corman a couple million to put something, ANYTHING, into production, just to prevent the rights from expiring.
 
There was an unreleased "Fantastic Four" movie made because of that issue in the early 1990s. The studio paid Roger Corman a couple million to put something, ANYTHING, into production, just to prevent the rights from expiring.

Which is awesome, by the way. Great watch...
 
It's a little different from that, in that Fox can't really "do" anything with the franchise, other than keep burning and releasing discs (no idea if the license also attaches to streaming rights). By contrast, as long as they keep making movies, Fox can keep doing X-Men films until whenever the license expires, if it ever expires all.
I actually wasn't comparing the situations, more the resulting "is it worth it" question Disney would be asking themselves
 
I actually wasn't comparing the situations, more the resulting "is it worth it" question Disney would be asking themselves


And the answer is marginally at best and certainly not worth being bent over a barrel by Fox. In 2020, 5 of the 6 films revert to Disney FOR FREE. Disney is a publicly traded company, there is ZERO chance they will pay dime one to Fox for those when they can simply wait and get them for free in 6 years, especially considering their focus will be on the NEW content they OWN 100% of. So post 2020, it will really be how much does Fox value owning ANH and what monetary value they place on that ownership. Disney will be in a far superior negotiating position, they will have control of 5 of the OT and PT films as well as possibly 6 more new SW films. The value of ANH will be greatly diminished at that point beyond a nostalgia value. That's when Disney will have Fox over the barrel.
 
And the answer is marginally at best and certainly not worth being bent over a barrel by Fox. In 2020, 5 of the 6 films revert to Disney FOR FREE. Disney is a publicly traded company, there is ZERO chance they will pay dime one to Fox for those when they can simply wait and get them for free in 6 years, especially considering their focus will be on the NEW content they OWN 100% of. So post 2020, it will really be how much does Fox value owning ANH and what monetary value they place on that ownership. Disney will be in a far superior negotiating position, they will have control of 5 of the OT and PT films as well as possibly 6 more new SW films. The value of ANH will be greatly diminished at that point beyond a nostalgia value. That's when Disney will have Fox over the barrel.

I don't know that the value of the first Star Wars movie will ever truly diminish, short of the end of watchable media.
 
I don't know that the value of the first Star Wars movie will ever truly diminish, short of the end of watchable media.

It's value relative to all the other content might be diminished. What if Ep. 7,8,9 turn out to be the best trilogy if the saga? How do we account for the sheer size of the future generation of SW fans currently under the age of 20 who will grow up with more film content then we as a generation ever saw? Will they be clamoring for the original theatrical release of ANH?
 
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