gobler
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The very start... Holo of Vader talking to the Inquisitor...
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The very start... Holo of Vader talking to the Inquisitor...
Edwardowan
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yup. it was added right at the beginning as the new opening scene before the Rebels Logo comes on... if you turned it on late you missed it ...and a lot of my friends missed it!
I thought it would be added to the end and they would make you watch the whole show to see it... so I was surprised there wasn't additional added scene nearer to the end... so, you could just watch the intro and turn the channel... I watched the whole thing though...
It was a very well done added scene and James Earl Jones was perfect!Here is the best I could find on Youtube:
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Tan Djarka
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That's an interesting take on it, but from what I've read it's more about the Sith's desire for power and dominance. When there were more Sith, they spent more time fighting with each other than the Jedi. Then Darth Bane (?) established the "rule of two". "Always two there are. A master and an apprentice." The Jedi mistakenly believed they'd defeated the Sith when it was actually a self imposed reduction.
But even the rule of two isn't perfect. The apprentice often takes on an apprentice, biding their time until they can kill off the master and take his place.
So, while there can be many trained in the dark arts, only two are "officially" Sith. I could be wrong though...
cayman shen
Master Member
The rule of two is yet ANOTHER example of Lucas painting himself into a corner with the PT. It's stupid, and if JJ has any sense at all, he'll write some variation on the following:
"I thought there could be only two?"
"That's what we believed. It seems we were wrong."
BAM, back on track. Now you can have alllll the red-sabered baddies you want without having to resort to this kind of contorted borderline-theological debate about "sith" vs "dark force adept."
"I thought there could be only two?"
"That's what we believed. It seems we were wrong."
BAM, back on track. Now you can have alllll the red-sabered baddies you want without having to resort to this kind of contorted borderline-theological debate about "sith" vs "dark force adept."
.yup. it was added right at the beginning as the new opening scene before the Rebels Logo comes on... if you turned it on late you missed it ...and a lot of my friends missed it!
I thought it would be added to the end and they would make you watch the whole show to see it... so I was surprised there wasn't additional added scene nearer to the end... so, you could just watch the intro and turn the channel... I watched the whole thing though...
Here is the best I could find on Youtube:
http://youtu.be/d0PgF_cfrhM
That's very cool. Thanks for the link.
Ben
I always looked at as religion. Sith is a certain sect or denomination if you will of the whole. According to their beliefs Post-Darth Bane you can only have 2, because more than that you have too much scheming on taking power. But, you can also have a Dark Jedi, someone who just happens to use the dark side of the force instead of the light but they haven't been initiated into the order of the Sith or don't want to be a part of it.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
The concept isn't mine, I read it. Not sure where or how much weight it holds. I went to starwars.com to see if they could shed any light on it. The only real reference was about Darth Bane:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/darth-bane
My assumption is that their databank is info they intend to keep in the canon but I could be wrong. As far as I know, since the scrapping of the previously known EU, no mention has been made to Darth Bane so he may no longer be canon either.
Previously before the EU purge, this is what was known about the Rule of Two: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_Two
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jme3
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yup. it was added right at the beginning as the new opening scene before the Rebels Logo comes on... if you turned it on late you missed it ...and a lot of my friends missed it!
I thought it would be added to the end and they would make you watch the whole show to see it... so I was surprised there wasn't additional added scene nearer to the end... so, you could just watch the intro and turn the channel... I watched the whole thing though...
Here is the best I could find on Youtube:
http://youtu.be/d0PgF_cfrhM
I was surprised it was at the beginning as well... When I went to tune in on last week's episode I accidentally hit the reset button on my receiver and it had to cycle through about five minutes worth of synchronizing with the satellites; glad it wasn't this week's episode! Even in cartoon form, there's nothing quite like that mask paired with the "real" voice. Spine tingling!
And yeah, thanks for the link.
clancampbell
Sr Member
The design of Vader is very reminiscent of these....
seelsa73
Sr Member
His spirit was in an episode in season 6 of CW. I would assume season 6 is canon like the rest of CW, if so then Darth Bane is as well.
Reelo
Sr Member
The rule of two ensures the strength of the Sith: The master wields power while the apprentice craves power. In order to become the master, the apprentice needs to surpass his master in all forms of Sith knowledge because he is required to kill his master. Try too early and you end up dead (thus unworthy to become the master)
The master must strike a balance by withholding certain knowledge to preserve his own position, while still teaching secrets in order to keep the knowledge intact.
The concept in itself is pretty interesting.
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The master must strike a balance by withholding certain knowledge to preserve his own position, while still teaching secrets in order to keep the knowledge intact.
The concept in itself is pretty interesting.
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Lutso
Sr Member
It's been established many times by the developers that they are basing the look of the show off the old McQuarrie drawings. Personally I don't really see that influence much since McQaurrie didn't make a Clone Wars cartoon, but in some cases, like the helmet, it is very evident. Cool!
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Any show that references SWG gets brownie points with me
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Correct!
Ok, good. That's probably why he is still listed in the databank. I thought there was a reference in CW but could not recall.
Reelo
Sr Member
Any show that references SWG gets brownie points with me
Ahhh, the good old days when there was no CU, no NGE, no ToOW and no RotW... just JTL, medic buffs and a crowded Coronet starport....
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Riceball
Master Member
There's actually a good bit of McQuarrie influence in Rebels, the biggest being Zeb, who is based on early McQuarrie concepts for Chewie. More subtle are the TIE fighters which have stubbier wings than what we see in the movies, and there are background characters that are based on unused McQuarrie concepts as well.
Here's something in Rebels that has me a bit puzzled, what are those antennas on Ezra's pack for? At first thought that he had some sort of radio in his pack but Fighter Flight showed that wasn't the case. So if there's no radio or anything else like it then why the antennas?
Jaitea
Master Member
Its kind of sad really that the reveal of Vader in ROTS showed a superior version of the helmet.....in the Original Trilogy it evolved up to the ultra glossy version in ROTJ....so apart from the SFX Technical side there is an evolution to the helmet.....perhaps post ANH, after Tarkin's death, Vader had an improved costume commissioned
The costume in ROTS could have been better if it was an earlier design (McQuarrie)....this would be similar to the evolution of the Trooper costumes
Now after McQuarrie's death & Georges creative departure McQ's designs are popping up everywhere, in the new cartoon & in Ep7, really those designs should have been around at the end of the Prequel period
It's also a shame that we didnt see any of RMcQ's concept Falcon or any of the other YT designs in the Prequels,......hopefully theyll make an appearance in the Rebels cartoon
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Laspector
Master Member
I always thought that was stupid, too. Why would you want only two? How are two people going to destroy thousands of Jedi? I just always thought it was just misinterpreted that way.
"Where did you get the idea there was only two of us? It just means we always work in pairs--y'know master/padawan? God, you Jedi are stupid!"
Jaitea
Master Member
Also that little dish and arms on the head of Chopper, is straight from his concept R2
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Riceball
Master Member
On the surface the rule of two is pretty stupid but if you go by what's been shown in, the PT, The Clone Wars and now Rebels, as well as the former EU, while there are only 2 formal Sith at any time this doesn't mean they don't use other Force users and others to help accomplish their goals. Before Palpatine became the Emperor he had Dooku, Ventress, and Grievous working for him as well as the Trade Federation. Then once he became Emperor Rebels showed us that he has the Sith Inquisitor as well as the entire Imperial military. So the rule of two can work so long as you can find the underlings and minions to help you and your apprentice with the grunt work.
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