Egon
Sr Member
I definitely see that too - I'm looking more at the top right corner near the safety looks a bit different picture to picture.
ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found
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I definitely see that too - I'm looking more at the top right corner near the safety looks a bit different picture to picture.
I'm not sure, might just be the angle of the photo. I definitely want to see the match, but I'm not sure if I do, in that particular spot anyway.
scottjua
Master Member
Just as I suspected! that's the ANH upper for sure. The locking frame seems to be the same too.. so same hammer, safety, internals, but the lower receiver is NOT the same.
I have high res to be able to see the depth of the cuts.
I'm seeing the same stuff. Same upper, different lower.
Awesome find, BTW! Thanks for all the screenshots!
Egon
Sr Member
agreed with scottjua. Same upper and lock frame, but different lower. Looks like the machining is quite different - especially on that top right corner near the safety and around the middle near the top of the trigger.
Pedro - the rectangle you are referring to is the lock frame of the gun (you can google image one) which has those small rectangles on the back of the gun. I don't know much about the mechanics of the c96, I'm sure someone can comment on it, but that whole piece can be removed. that's a good eye on the ding on the frame!
Great pics and info!
Pedro - the rectangle you are referring to is the lock frame of the gun (you can google image one) which has those small rectangles on the back of the gun. I don't know much about the mechanics of the c96, I'm sure someone can comment on it, but that whole piece can be removed. that's a good eye on the ding on the frame!
Great pics and info!
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Egon - thanks for the info. I'm not much of a gun guy, or wasn't until I started getting sucked into this damn blaster business. 
I looked for matches on the grips too and agree that they're probably not the same. Speaking of which, wish I could get my hands on some real vintage grips!
Anyway, these pics are so cool! So pleased to have some new references, I see a couple dings I can add to my build. Sweet! Scottjua - I'm sure you've been asked before, but perhaps it doesn't hurt - care to share any peeks at your references?
I looked for matches on the grips too and agree that they're probably not the same. Speaking of which, wish I could get my hands on some real vintage grips!
Anyway, these pics are so cool! So pleased to have some new references, I see a couple dings I can add to my build. Sweet! Scottjua - I'm sure you've been asked before, but perhaps it doesn't hurt - care to share any peeks at your references?
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Egon
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@Egon - thanks for the info. I'm not much of a gun guy, or wasn't until I started getting sucked into this damn blaster business.
I looked for matches on the grips too and agree that they're probably not the same. Speaking of which, wish I could get my hands on some real vintage grips!
Anyway, these pics are so cool! So pleased to have some new references, I see a couple dings I can add to my build. Sweet! Scottjua - I'm sure you've been asked before, but perhaps it doesn't hurt - care to share any peeks at your references?
I got some of the DEC grips for my denix builds - VERY nice! If you can get on a run - do it!
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scottjua
Master Member
@Egon - thanks for the info. I'm not much of a gun guy, or wasn't until I started getting sucked into this damn blaster business.
I looked for matches on the grips too and agree that they're probably not the same. Speaking of which, wish I could get my hands on some real vintage grips!
Anyway, these pics are so cool! So pleased to have some new references, I see a couple dings I can add to my build. Sweet! Scottjua - I'm sure you've been asked before, but perhaps it doesn't hurt - care to share any peeks at your references?
Sorry man, no can do unfortunately.
deadbolt
Sr Member
Wow, awesome find, sliuman!!
This definitely appears to be the same Upper, and possibly lock assembly as the ANH Hero! I agree that the lower was most likely changed for the ANH Hero. Not only do the machined features not match, but the spacers and such are attached to the left side, where the ANH frame had them on the right and showed no evidence of having anything mounted to the left side at at any point.
However, it is a bit odd that the lock assembly would fit into another mauser frame and still work properly, or even fit at all for that matter. I believe the frames and lock assemblies were machined to match each other to a certain extent. Almost like the side-plates on a Luger. But that does appear to be the same assembly nonetheless.
This also helps support the theory that there were at least 2 naked runner mausers with the same modifications and carry-case. Notice that the naked runner mauser has the old style safety with a hole through it, and this Randall and Hopkirk mauser has the NS era mauser safety which is solid. Two different variation mausers with the same modifications..Very interesting!
This exact mauser appears to be the same one featured in an episode of 'The Sweeney' that was discussed earlier in the thread. And the ANH Hero possibly got it's lower from a totally different mauser that was featured in an episode of 'The Protectors', which had a lower with spacers on the right side roughly where the ANH Hero's are. Without clearer photos of that one it's hard to tell for sure, but it's something that bapty apparently already had on hand before ANH, so it's possible.
Thank you for posting this discovery!
-Carson
This definitely appears to be the same Upper, and possibly lock assembly as the ANH Hero! I agree that the lower was most likely changed for the ANH Hero. Not only do the machined features not match, but the spacers and such are attached to the left side, where the ANH frame had them on the right and showed no evidence of having anything mounted to the left side at at any point.
However, it is a bit odd that the lock assembly would fit into another mauser frame and still work properly, or even fit at all for that matter. I believe the frames and lock assemblies were machined to match each other to a certain extent. Almost like the side-plates on a Luger. But that does appear to be the same assembly nonetheless.
This also helps support the theory that there were at least 2 naked runner mausers with the same modifications and carry-case. Notice that the naked runner mauser has the old style safety with a hole through it, and this Randall and Hopkirk mauser has the NS era mauser safety which is solid. Two different variation mausers with the same modifications..Very interesting!
This exact mauser appears to be the same one featured in an episode of 'The Sweeney' that was discussed earlier in the thread. And the ANH Hero possibly got it's lower from a totally different mauser that was featured in an episode of 'The Protectors', which had a lower with spacers on the right side roughly where the ANH Hero's are. Without clearer photos of that one it's hard to tell for sure, but it's something that bapty apparently already had on hand before ANH, so it's possible.
Thank you for posting this discovery!
-Carson
No worries. Just keep filling us in on info and adding the details to your builds hah!
scottjua
Master Member
maybe after seeing if there's any more screen caps that reveal any more details, and this run happens, we can get them incorporated into the Maauser replica...
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=272875
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=272875
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