Star Trek (2009 J.J. Abrams movie) Phaser Defined Thread!

[Onigiri]

Actually the phaser looks like it belongs on a peg hook at Big Lots or the 99 cent store....chrome finish and red and blue clear plastic...I wonder if it shoots sparks and goes 'whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' when you pull the trigger. I said before that the props were designed as toys with toy like action. The horizontally rotating emitter is so unbelievably cheezy as to be nauseating. That feature rarely worked right on set so it will be interesting to see if the toy works any better. Again, JJ would have been BETTER off with a nebulizer and I reiterate that I dont see how anyone with a discerning eye thinks this monstrosity has anything more then a passing resemblance to a TOS phaser.
"OOOh....SHINEY......!"

[vaderdarth]

well, whether or not the movie sux, Uhura is hot. Even in the toy form........LOL

[GrenadeKing]

You guys do know that those pics are of the toys right? So maybe that's why they look all toy like and childish? Maybe the real ones look a tad more realistic?

...actually never mind, I don't know what I was thinking...

[Onigiri]

sorry but they look very much like what the props look like...thats the problem.

You guys do know that those pics are of the toys right? So maybe that's why they look all toy like and childish? Maybe the real ones look a tad more realistic?

...actually never mind, I don't know what I was thinking...

[glim999]

Well, I like what I see. A lot. I think it's fresh and interesting. Now I know some of you would insult my intelegence because of that but remember that I'm a guy that thinks the TOS phaser is one of the most beutiful props ever. Thing is, I thrive on variation. I get bored when I see the same thing over and over so it excites me to see something new.

As for the Enterprise, the USAToday pic and the Wizard pic are two completely different toys. The one with the blue stand looks like a miniture (maybe a Johnny Lightning ship?) but the one on USAToday matches what we've seen in the trailer pretty well.

[silverskyes402]

That tricorder SAYS tricorder HA HA HA HA HA

[blewis17]

And I guess the Bridge playset has dynamic "console removal action"... or else the Bridge gets redressed at some... ah, who the hell cares.

Nice touch tho, having all those guillotines all over the bridge. Great for spur-of-the-moment executions.

From the alternate universe Trek, with the evil Kirk and Evil Spock...

[JoeRalat]

DUDE!! THE PROPS SUCK!!!!! How can they Fu@k Up soooooooooooooo many things!!!!

Um... Oh! That's uh... OH.

Hideous. Yes that's the word.

So the red and blue barrels swivel around that vertical axis, huh. Well that's only slightly retarded, isn't it.



Comm with screen in flipgrid. Hey thumbwheel, what do you know.




Tricorder. By way of Playskool, it looks like. Oh dear GOD tell me it doesn't actually say "TRICORDER" on it. What is this, Mego?

[Onigiri]

They also appear to be toys from two different parts of the film.
The one on the stand has what look very much like TOS pennants and markings whereas the other does not (matching the one beauty shot we have of the E from the movie).
My guess is the unmarked E is the one that CADET Kirk commands and the marked one is the one that CAPTAIN Kirk in his gold uniform commands

Well, I like what I see. A lot. I think it's fresh and interesting. Now I know some of you would insult my intelegence because of that but remember that I'm a guy that thinks the TOS phaser is one of the most beutiful props ever. Thing is, I thrive on variation. I get bored when I see the same thing over and over so it excites me to see something new.

As for the Enterprise, the USAToday pic and the Wizard pic are two completely different toys. The one with the blue stand looks like a miniture (maybe a Johnny Lightning ship?) but the one on USAToday matches what we've seen in the trailer pretty well.

[silverskyes402]

Lets just hope that since playmates havent made a toys forever they forgot and just screwed up, i'm still waiting for the real prop pics

[Gojira61]

I can live with the Tricorder, but just the Tricorder.

Now having said that, this will be the piece that MR will end up not making.

And I hate toy companies that sell you a set (not that I'm buying it) with only a few of the pieces bridge and include the rest of the pieces with the other figures.

I agree with Onigiri, the Phaser looks like it should be hanging on a peg hook at the dollar store.

[Serenity]

It's too bad Art Asylum didn't do the toys/products for the movie; their ships and toys from the past shows and movies are pretty solid...

[SonofJorEl]

2 versions of the ship--maybe. Just as I was becoming used to the 1st version - the 2nd version freaks me out all over again! Another thing to consider - perhaps Playmates is releasing a version of the E based on earlier concept art that wasn't finalized. This happened with the Playmates E-E and their First Contact line.

[misterfusion]

Actually the phaser looks like it belongs on a peg hook at Big Lots or the 99 cent store....chrome finish and red and blue clear plastic...I wonder if it shoots sparks and goes 'whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' when you pull the trigger.

Thanks! My first good laugh of the day!



I'm getting a case of Galactic Whiplash from this movie. First it really sucks, then it looks okay, then it gets stoopid again...

[Onigiri]

As I stated elsewhere if MR does replicas of these pieces (and I do mean pieces) I suspect they wont do well. MR has announced plans for their new 'E' LE (Im guessing 1/350) which may or may not sell well. Im guessing not.
I cant see spending good money on high end reproductions of low end props. I think Playmates is actually about the right speed for this movie.

[Chronos]

Who designed these pieces of crap?!

Valid points everyone:
phaser -- barrel pointed towards user, chrome finish, cheesy dollar-store ripoff
communicator -- what's with the huge gap when it's open?
tricorder -- ugh. playskool indeed. It FRAKKIN' SAYS TRICORDER!
the ship -- yup, that's the playmates I remember. Like SonofJorEl mentioned, compare the Enterprise-E made by playmates with the one made by Art Asylum and you'll understand...

So we've been told over and over how this new Trek is going to be "BIG" and well..."BIG". Unfortunately I'm more and more concerned that "BIG" translates into 'loud and dumb' unmotivated action sequence after action sequence peppered with stupid 'funny' scenes at the sake of character.

Remember "New Coke"? Remember how well that did?

[Onigiri]

As I said at Trekmovie it looks like all of these prop and set designs were lifted from the old Gold Key Comics. They all lack the 'character' of our beloved props . Seriously, go pop open some old Gold Key Trek comics and see if you dont see more in common with the props and sets there then with TOS.
Hmmmmmmmmm apparently the new tricorder doesnt require a screen...readings to be taken by understanding beeps, tweets, whistles and sequencing leds....
"Will he be all right, Bones?"
"Let me check, Jim, give me a sec while I run this pepper mill over his chest...and *blink, blink, whrrrrrrrrrr, beep, beep, click flashy flashy blink beep*....nope, he's dead Jim."

[Noeland]

Well, yeah, the toys look like toys. What do expect? I'm sure the film props will look like film props too.

[NakedMoleRat]

I think that after the mess that was Nemesis we can all agree that we are glad that this movie IS NOT...

Star Trek XI: The Search for Data!

Like the communicator, the tricorder is alright, though it's not screaming for me to add it to the collection.
Phaser, well, I never was a big phaser collector anyway, so, my feelings aren't too hurt over it.

[phase pistol]

Some great points. Yes, these are the toy versions. But yes, they look a lot like the real props. For example the communicator, which has already been revealed in prop form



The toy seems to have a thicker back black section. And where does the thumbwheel come from. Perhaps the prop flips open "magically", but the thumbwheel lets you crank the lid open manually.

The pivoting phaser barrel... well maybe it looks cooler in the film. Maybe it's not painted RED and BLUE. Maybe maybe maybe.

I'm seriously underwhelmed by that phaser. It reminds me of the fugly designs that were rejected for earlier movies, such as the Brick Price TMP phaser, or the Ed Kline phaser designs.

This new design is inelegant, overly busy, clunky looking. Its lines do not flow. Stuff just looks "stuck on" rather than made into an integrated whole.

Now granted, this is the Playmates toy version, and not the actual prop. So there's still a chance that something got lost in translation and the prop is actually not that bad. We shall see.

Comm... ugh. I may eventually grow to accept it like I have the WOK comm, but at this stage I'm still not impressed.

Tricorder. Well when I saw the tiny action figure accessory version, I thought it might have potential. Now I'm thinking it looks dumb, like the Mego version of the TOS tricorder. Or maybe some kind of Dell PDA from 1998.

The control panel and display "sticker" on the tricorder seem undesigned and clunky too. Things do not line up or seem balanced. Again, not elegant.

The Bridge.. well I still fail to "get" the Bridge. It looks like about three bridges just crammed together. The crew complement seems to be about 20 people on the Bridge, just way overmanned. Consoles point all sorts of directions... I guess the overall idea is to let everyone see the viewscreen, but there are still consoles at the rear that point backwards, just like TOS. And much like the Enterprise-E bridge, this set seems to have way too many little design elements and flourishes, giving it the ambiance of a luxury hotel lobby and not a command center.

The two versions of the ship... well as has been pointed out, maybe the "pennant" version is Kirk's command later on. The ship is apparently just being BUILT during the movie, so maybe it launches without all the "decals" in place, as it were.

OR perhaps it's alternate-universes again. Two timelines and two ships. We'll have to wait and see about that I guess.

None of this means I'm not going to see the movie of course. LOL

BUT it does mean I'm disappointed. I was really looking forward to loving the ship, and the sets, and the props. Right now I'm just not feeling it.

- k

[NakedMoleRat]

At least we can get accurate chest badges.

http://therpf.com/showthread.php?t=54526

Shameless, I know...

[MattMunson]

Not sure I"m feelin' love for that phaser anymore, but the comm and the tricorder look pretty cool.

[MattMunson]

Hmmmmmmmmm apparently the new tricorder doesnt require a screen...readings to be taken by understanding beeps, tweets, whistles and sequencing leds.."

You mean just like the ones in star trek I, II, and III???

[SonofJorEl]

Originally Posted by Phase Pistol

"None of this means I'm not going to see the movie of course. LOL

BUT it does mean I'm disappointed. I was really looking forward to loving the ship, and the sets, and the props. Right now I'm just not feeling it."


QFT

[Onigiri]

Nope
TMP didnt have a screen but both TWOK and Trek 3 DID have screens.
TWOK was on the back of teh Tric as was the Trek 3.
The Trek 3 screen was that projection on the back that had the concave indentation you look down in to. Only one replica I have seen has actually finished out that screen.
But yeah, this tric look like a TMP, Mego hybrid and I never could figure out in TMP how Spock knew what he was looking at.

You mean just like the ones in star trek I, II, and III???