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    May 15, 2007, 9:41 PM - Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #1

    Okay, So I just got my hands on a pair of Blufive's Space: 1999 Com-Lock and Stun-gun resin kits. BTW nice kits, clean castings with properly registered seam lines and no voids.

    Now I need data. Where else do I turn, of course, but to my primary resource (besides the back of cereal boxes), the RPF.

    Only one well-traveled thread,

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...ace%3A+1999%22

    came up in the search index, but it did not answer all my questions. Posts by Phase Pistol that I would admiringly describe as "encyclopedic" did answer several questions, but a number of illustrations no longer seem to be there. Worst of all, a previous thread is repeatedly referred to as being helpful, but it's a dead link, a casualty, no doubt, of the server changes.



    So here's my questions...


    For both props, which, if any features lit up?

    Stun Gun:

    Most of my questions have been answered in the above mentioned thread, but any new data on Super-detailing is always appreciated.


    Com-lock:

    1. Some pictures depict a cast member graphic on the ID panel, where can I get this illustration?
    2. Does anyone have a 1:1 version of the blueprint file (.dwg, .dxf, or .pdf) of the com-lock so I can determine the correct size of belt clip to fabricate?
    3. On the lower box of the link, there is a raised black gridded rectangle. Some pictures depict red or white dots on this grid. Does anyone have any info on this? I believe that this is addressed in the above mentioned post but the missing pics make it hard to tell.
    4. Some photos I've seen look like the primary color is almond, not light gray. Any feelings on this?
    5. Is there a black painted stripe running through the recessed horizontal channels at the 1/3 and 2/3 marks?
    Thanks for any help on this.

    ---RGP
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    May 15, 2007, 9:45 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #2

    http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/cguide/uc.html

    Alot of good stuff here. It helped me with everything I needed to to build this:
    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=22237
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    May 15, 2007, 10:53 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #3

    Laser and commlock props varied throughout the show. There were "hero" props and "dummy" props.

    The "hero" commlock with working video screen was LARGER than the normal commlock prop, and had to be tethered to a fat video cable that ran
    out the bottom of the "antenna" cylinder.

    The show was remarkably sloppy about props... the star of the show is often seen wearing a wonky commlock prop that has the buttons all out of place!





    The show was inconsistent about how it handled those ID card photos. They seem to be publicity shots of the actors. Your best bet would be to find similar photos or to mock it up from frame grabs.




    This is one of the better "face on" shots of a commlock from the series, but unfortunately it's a prop that's beat to hell!




    The regular commlock props (with no working video screen) had no lights or other mechanisms, they were just solid. The belt clip appears to be a piece of bent metal.



    The lowest quality commlocks had stickers for all the buttons. The high-quality dummy props given to the show's stars had buttons that were thin pieces of plastic, or in the case of the silver disc on the side, metal.

    IMHO the most accurate commlock prop replica is the one made by CY Productions (that's Clint Young, not "cyland"). Here is mine



    Now then onto the Laser Stun Gun... this prop has no "hero" version, and there are no working features or lights or anything on any of these props. Possibly the trigger was depressable on some of the props. And of course as the series went on, they wanted an obvious "stun/kill" switch, so a couple of designs were tried out





    Especially in the second series, really cheap vacuformed "crapazoid" versions of this prop began to be featured prominently


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    May 16, 2007, 10:19 AM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #4

    Great pics, phase.

    There might also be some untapped knowledge over at my place...
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    May 16, 2007, 12:19 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #5

    Thanks, Phase Pistol

    Still need ideas on these two com-lock related points...

    Some photos I've seen look like the primary color is almond, not light gray.

    Is there a black painted stripe running through the recessed horizontal channels at the 1/3 and 2/3 marks?

    ---RGP
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    May 16, 2007, 12:41 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #6

    Some photos I've seen look like the primary color is almond, not light gray
    Pics?

    I believe the paint used was Halfords Ford Polar Grey.
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    May 16, 2007, 12:47 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #7

    Is there an American equivalent for that?
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    May 16, 2007, 1:25 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #8

    Colors often look different on screen. I believe the commlock color is gray, but it took on a beige tint on the show.

    Similarly, Koenig's sleeve and collar, as well as the screen-shade on the commlock, were all GRAY but tended to look black.

    - k
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    May 17, 2007, 9:36 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #9

    phase pistol said: View Post
    the screen-shade on the commlock, were all GRAY but tended to look black.

    - k
    Another interesting new fact.

    Keep em coming, guys!

    What about my question about the recessed channels on the commlock being painted?

    Oh, and any good superdetailing ideas?
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    May 18, 2007, 1:45 AM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #10

    I don't think the deep cuts on the commlock are painted black, I think it's just shadows that make it look that way.


    - k
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    May 18, 2007, 11:34 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #11



    I dunno, pretty dark in there.
    If it isn't shadows, it's probably striping tape, though, not paint.
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    Oct 8, 2007, 12:34 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #12

    OK. Almost finished with these. New Question...

    The cylinder on the stun-gun appears to be a dark metallic color but not black. Any ideas?
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    Oct 8, 2007, 1:03 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #13

    Man, I don't know who made them but there is a bad-ass stungun out there. I see them on Ebay every so often. It's keyed and has a laser in it.

    Not sidkit...this thing looks amazing and I want one!
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    Oct 8, 2007, 1:26 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #14

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    Oct 8, 2007, 1:29 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #15

    Uh, the cylinder??? Color???
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    Oct 8, 2007, 2:22 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #16

    If by "cylinder" you mean the emitter cones of the laser... then yeah they are a metallic color. A second metallic color on the blocky bases.

    If you mean the little short cans that project out from both sides of the laser body... yeah some kind of dark metallic there too. Possibly black on the flat disc at the end of each cylinder.









    - k
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    Oct 8, 2007, 2:51 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #17

    Most of the Resin kits that turn up on ebay are made by coolmodels who is a notorious recaster.
    His kits are generally undersized and poorly cast.


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    Oct 8, 2007, 4:03 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #18

    phase pistol said: View Post
    If by "cylinder" you mean the emitter cones of the laser... then yeah they are a metallic color. A second metallic color on the blocky bases.

    If you mean the little short cans that project out from both sides of the laser body... yeah some kind of dark metallic there too. Possibly black on the flat disc at the end of each cylinder.


    - k
    Yep, I meant the latter of the two options. Good observation on the Flat black at the end.

    Thanks again, Phase!

    RGP
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    Oct 8, 2007, 9:23 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #19

    Must chime in on the stun gun. One of my favorites. I have a kit I started long ago and WILL finish some day. I have created the season 1 stun/kill switch as I think it is more unusual. I also recreated the four nozzles/emitters out of aluminum. I know they were not shiny on the originals, but the polished aluminum just looks cool.
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    Oct 9, 2007, 9:48 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #20

    Phase Pistol -

    I think I may have asked you this at another time and place, but in case I'm wrng or you have more data now, I'll ask again.

    Do you know who created the stun gun props and do you know if the hero gun survived and their whereabouts? I keep hoping to see a hero turn up with hi-res pics, but nothing.
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    Oct 9, 2007, 11:14 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #21

    I do not know who the maker was on these props. I have never seen any "post-cancellation" shots of a hero laser prop, only vacuformed crapazoid stunt versions.

    - k
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    Oct 10, 2007, 10:24 PM - Re: Space: 1999 Definitive Com-Lock/ Stun-gun Data needed! #22

    OK, maybe some day they will turn up.

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