Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
  1. Howard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Southern England.
    Message Count
    2,964
    May 22, 2009 - Sds e-11 #1

    This is really going to land him in very HOT water!

    http://www.sdsprops.com/blaster-intro.html
    Last edited by Howard; May 22, 2009 at 8:49 AM.
  2. Java's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    The Great Midwest
    Message Count
    1,212
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #2

    Wow....just wow.
  3. Livin' la vida loca Cenobyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    San Diego, Ca
    Message Count
    6,144
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #3

    Wonder where the claim he made those also is?
  4. Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Lawrenceville, NJ
    Message Count
    22
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #4

    I see he still has all the other helmets on his site for sale. What ever happened as a result of the legal battle?
  5. I be got no weapon! Clutch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    The Basement
    Message Count
    7,019
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #5

    Is that a MR scope?
  6. Betamin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Message Count
    3,524
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #6

    The close up shots of it don't make it look all that great.
  7. motman241's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Message Count
    1,074
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #7

    If this is truly the piece for sale,
    Then it is pretty lousy. I'm seeing several things filled in, and a few parts missing.

    I'll stick to making my own PVC ones.
  8. defstartrooper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Essex UK
    Message Count
    4,071
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #8

    I'm curious how he gets round the replica weapons laws with this.
  9. moff man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Message Count
    375
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #9

    Basically it's just a Steling Machine gun with a scope on it, he may have a case if he gets dragged into court. Replica gun laws are another story.
  10. Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Colorado Spgs, Colorado
    Message Count
    1,430
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #10

    I was wondering if it isn't the same thing being sold over at the FISD:

    http://forum.whitearmor.net/index.php?showtopic=6694
  11. RPF Premium Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Message Count
    16,120
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #11

    Oh boy!
  12. Ghost Host's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    California
    Message Count
    3,180
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #12

    Hmm, not too impressed. He made some interesting decisions like having metal bits here and there and possibly sourcing the correct T track (still looks a bit thin), but there are alot of wrong details on it and too much real detail filled in. I've seen fan reproductions that left way more detail on it. And his descriptions are truly nauseating.
  13. Stilgar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Message Count
    256
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #13

    Actually I think it doesn't look too shabby at all for the price...

    Can't find any info what that thing is made of (resin, rubber, ...)?
  14. Megamicrofish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Essex, UK
    Message Count
    936
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #14

    " The Ultimate E11 blaster !
    A real complement to your SDS armour.Built with the enthusiasm, Originality and quality that you expect from all SDS products"


    Originality !!!!
  15. Spaceace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    England
    Message Count
    208
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #15

    The pics on sds are not of the final product......so ive read on another forum,
    and lets face it, if it was the best e11 out there, not many people on here would say it was.
  16. lonepigeon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Michigan
    Message Count
    6,181
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #16

    Just amazing what this idiot thinks he can get away with.

    It looks like an MR ripoff. He even stole the scope graphics.
    The scope is the same model as the MR, poor choice as it's only seen on one gun in ANH (maybe).
    Scope rail is wrong. T-track is too thin.

    Nice idea on the plug-in "power pack".
    Obviously the thing is made for trooping and a little simplified.
  17. MarkG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    West Sussex, UK
    Message Count
    176
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #17

    Here's what I've heard / read about it..

    All the parts are cast from genuine Sterling parts and correct accessories.

    A replica sterling E-11 was used, which is owned by a 501st UK member.

    It's plastic (poss vac formed) with a foam type filling to make it light yet rigid.

    Photos on the SDS site ARE NOT final pictures, hence missing/wrong t-track etc.

    As for the scope inserts, there's plenty of them going around, and therefore not just limited to the MR version.

    My only gripe is the price.... bit too high IMHO.
  18. voice in the crowd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Message Count
    1,920
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #18

    I have always wondered how LFL / MR / Palitoy / Kenner etc got away with making props / toys that are clearly all found parts. If anybody can explain to me how these companies can claim any rights to these items I would love to know.

    It appears to me that LFL claim rights to the E-11 blaster and yet the gun is property of the Sterling Armament company, counter property of Hengstler, and gun scope property of Minneapolis Honeywell Regulator Company

    All these original items are over 50 years old so possibly copyright has expired on them. I know nothing about UK copyright but lately some 1950s musicians (Cliff Richard the highest profile) were complaining that they had now lost the rights to their music as it was 50 years old - not sure if the same thing applies.

    Either way SDS / AA are totally shameless now when it comes to products and product names. The shadow trooper being nothing to do with the original production which AA was involved in.

    Clearly Andrew Ainsworth couldn't care less about being sued anyway. LFL have tried already and still haven't stopped him even by going through the UK courts.

    From the pics it looks pretty poor anyway.

    Chris
  19. Cast From Original sskunky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    UK.
    Message Count
    1,148
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #19

    Hi,
    I can answer this as I am the guy that supplied SDS all the original parts that these blasters were molded from.
    They are injection molded plastic with a very dense foam filler. The level of detail is outstanding far superior to anything that has been cast out of resin IMHO.
    They will be left black and new looking so anyone who purchases one will be able to customize and weather it to their own wants and standards.
    They are incredibly light and very strong yet feel good in hand and would be perfect for trooping.
    The one thing I would say is that it was very hard to find the correct T Track although it looked close I think for all you SA fans you might want to replace it which should very easy as I believe they are just fixed with tension and not glue.
    I am in no way affiliated with Sds and will earn nothing from the sales. I am just getting one as a thank you and that's fine with me.
    I just thought it would be nice to have a fairly accurate blaster off the shelf and at a reasonable cost and that is my reason for getting involved.
    You have to see this in the flesh to appreciate it.
    When I get mine I will post some more detailed pics up.
    JFYI the pics posted up on the SDS site are not the final pics and yes your right one of the 6 x T-Tracks is missing as is the little crescent shaped part towards the front in the pics, the final pieces will have these on. That's what rushing to get these pics on the site does for you!
    Thanks for pointing these mistakes out, you guys never miss a trick! That's what I love about this place.
    Is there anything else I have forgotten?
    We wanted this to be as accurate as we could make it at a reasonable cost.
    As I have said before I'm not on the pay roll. I just thought it would be a good idea to be able to buy a very accurate blaster off the shelf at a reasonable price that was light and strong enough to troop with.

    I just wish people would put their opinions of SDS aside for a minute. The ST armor is a different story altogether and I had nothing to do with that.

    The scope everyone is saying is a MR rip off , you are wrong it is directly cast from my m38 scope and the counter is cast from my real Hengstler counter and the cylinders are cast from the ones I made and from the template that me and a couple of other guys did on the FISD. The scope graphics are pulled of the net too and are not final.

    I would be interested in some constructive criticism if you have it but just to slag it off isn't doing anyone any good.

    Thank you

    Mark.
  20. voice in the crowd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Message Count
    1,920
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #20

    sskunky said: View Post
    Hi,
    I am in no way affiliated with Sds and will earn nothing from the sales. I am just getting one as a thank you and that's fine with me.
    Hi Mark,

    You are earning something from SDS a blaster.

    In the SDS email I got it states -

    NEWSLETTER MAY 2009

    THE ULTIMATE BLASTER

    A super-accurate E11 Blaster, with the level of originality, detail and quality you expect from Shepperton Design Studios. This is the definitive item, encompassing all the features of the most complicated blaster used in ANH. Including castings taken directly from the Sterling sub-machine gun used for the original props, the blaster is made from lightweight, composite materials so that at just 700g (25oz), trooping all day is no sweat.
    Removable power pack cartridge
    Barrel vent holes
    T-track cooling coils
    Internal rifle barrel
    Scope – a direct cast from the original prop
    Scope power unit with spec details – a direct cast from the original prop
    Exposed trigger
    Safety catch
    Targeting sensors and power cylinders
    Grip – a direct cast from the original E11 prop
    Recoil spring
    Serrated rear sights
    Scope – a direct cast from the original prop
    Scope power unit with spec details – a direct cast from the original prop
    Grip – a direct cast from the original E11 prop


    Clearly by your post these statements are untrue.

    I know you want people to view this with an open mind but these are some big claims by SDS about being direct casts from the original prop.

    Good luck

    Chris
    Last edited by voice in the crowd; May 22, 2009 at 6:12 PM.
  21. exoray's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Message Count
    5,847
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #21

    voice in the crowd said: View Post
    In the SDS email I got it states -


    Scope – a direct cast from the original prop
    Scope power unit with spec details – a direct cast from the original prop
    Grip – a direct cast from the original E11 prop
    SDS fibbing or lying, say it ain't so...

    I have always wondered how LFL / MR / Palitoy / Kenner etc got away with making props / toys that are clearly all found parts. If anybody can explain to me how these companies can claim any rights to these items I would love to know.
    Creation of a new work (even if it uses other works) creates a new ownership of copyright as long a it's reaches an invisible threshold of originality and creativity decided upon if challenged in court...

    When you look at an E11 although it is largely dependent on the Sterling it does show a level of creativity and originality that sets it distinctly apart from the Sterling thus granting it a new right of ownership as a whole...

    Now when a company like MR make a E11 replica to sell and does not use the original art/parts but instead recreations this is where the slope gets slippery... If MR was to say use a real Sterling, scope and counter to make licensed E11 replicas there is no issues, but when they do what they did and replicate parts there can be underlying ownership rights that could be enforced by Sterling and M.H.R. But in this case I doubt Sterling or M.H.R. care or would even bother, but maybe a still in production item like the Hengstler counter might...

    Think of it this way, EVERYTHING is made from something else... Adobe doesn't own a digital image because thier software was used to create it, same as paint company X doesn't own a painting because you used thier paints or canvas, and Levis doesn't own your picture because the model was wearing Levis Jeans... The list could go on and on...
  22. lonepigeon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 1999
    Location
    Michigan
    Message Count
    6,181
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #22

    sskunky said: View Post
    I just wish people would put their opinions of SDS aside for a minute. The ST armor is a different story altogether and I had nothing to do with that.
    It's still SDS ripping off Lucasfilm even after he lost the lawsuit.
    Is he trying to get sued again? I guess he doesn't care since they don't seem to be enforcing the ruling in the UK.

    It's not a bad blaster, but it's being advertised as the most accurate ever which it is definitely not. The copy is misleading too - inferring that an original prop was cast, when it was only a few original found parts.
  23. Sumatra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Bloomington, MN
    Message Count
    3,569
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #23

    What the hell is with that front scope? How can he claim this is accurate?

    Last edited by Sumatra; May 22, 2009 at 9:50 PM.
  24. exoray's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Message Count
    5,847
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #24

    sskunky said: View Post
    I just wish people would put their opinions of SDS aside for a minute. The ST armor is a different story altogether and I had nothing to do with that.
    Why? He has and continues to see the world through his delusional colored glasses... He continues to flat out tell lies and exaggerate his products beyond the scope of reality... These are the same issues that have garnished him resentment and hate from day one of his reappearance and he continues to compound them with every new step he takes... What part of this would want anyone to even consider putting any of their opinions aside for even a moment when he continues to reinforce them continuously?

    Cue in the start the SDS back peddle now, the original email has already been disputed and posted in this thread, lets get ready for the multiple revisions of the website and new emails to come now that the circle has come full circle once again...

    What the hell is with that front scope?
    He probabbly fetted the tumblehomes because he felt it should have always been that way
  25. I be got no weapon! Clutch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    The Basement
    Message Count
    7,019
    May 22, 2009 - Re: Sds e-11 #25

    I'm tempted to get the dvd's that show him making the stuff. lol
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. FX with SDS pics anyone ?
    matt black, Replica Movie Costumes
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Aug 26, 2010, 3:40 AM
  2. SDS Products
    Supa troop, Replica Movie Props
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: Mar 18, 2007, 3:16 PM
  3. SDS Armor
    darthinwah, Replica Movie Costumes
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Jan 3, 2006, 3:41 AM

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11