Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on how to make Ron's Deluminator from Deathly Hallows? I'm thinking it may be inspired by a cigarette lighter but I'm having trouble finding a base to modify or anything similar. Any suggestions?? Thanks!
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on how to make Ron's Deluminator from Deathly Hallows? I'm thinking it may be inspired by a cigarette lighter but I'm having trouble finding a base to modify or anything similar. Any suggestions?? Thanks!
I'm pretty sure it's the exact same prop used in the HP1. Dumbledore used it to put out Privet Lane's lights at the beginning of the movie. As I recall then, the theory was cigarette lighter but the exact one was never found.
funny, I was watching the movie and wondering when the RPF would start replicating it. I think I used to have a lighter that functioned in a similar manner. It was a cheesy butane lighter that had all sorts of LED's on it. I think I bought it at the fair but can't remember.
I know this is gross, but .....nose hair trimmer?
I got one that kind of looks like that.
i'm really glad someone you started this thread! (i was about to start one myself)
as for the prop, to me the deluminator in DH looked black, instead of the multicolored green that was in hp1. i may be wrong, but i'm just throwing it out there... anyone know for a fact what color it is? lol
When I saw the movie in IMAX it looked black to me as well. I was able to make a quick drawing of it but I need to make a better sketch wince I was using an app on my phone lol.
I'm sure it was inspired by a cigarette lighter. It was described as such in the book. However, they may have machined the parts from scratch, just using the lighter as the basis.
I don't want to be picky, but since it was originally Dumbledore's and even designed by the great wizard himself, I think you should rename the thread to "Dumbledore's Deluminator".
OK guys, this is what I saw in DH. I was in an antique shop the morning before I went to see the film and I saw one of these, but in a DEEP (almost black) purple.
I then saw what I thought was the exact same thing being used as Ron's deluminator.
The screencap at the top of this page is the one from the Philosophers Stone. I'm certain the Deathly Hallows one has changed. And I'm pretty sure they used something like this as the base.
It's a victorian perfume bottle, and the one I saw in the antique shop was about £30. I havent bought it yet, bacause I wanted to make sure I wasn't just seeing things!
I think it's a between-War naptha table lighter (sans stand) with a marbelized bakelite body. There's an allusion to the tinder boxes WWI soldiers would construct from empty shell casings in the silhouette of the top just before the conical cap comes off, as well as the more obvious one to double-ended Victorian perfume bottles in the overall shape (but note how the lower 'cap' is narrower, because it's really just the bottom of the fuel chamber and has to slide up inside the case when the switch is moved). For a movie that felt lathe-turned dowels were good enough for wands I doubt anything about it was custom made; probably just a random find in an antique store. The bakelite may have cracked in storage leading to replacement with machined delrin, hence the colour change to black. The Privet Lane sequence is clear enough for me to draw up plans for a working lighter but I'd like to see what JJ9437 has to draw first.
I managed to dig up a shot of the scene where the will is read out. Here 's a cropped pic of Ron holding the deluminator. To me, it looks smaller than the original Philosophers stone one too. When looking at the screencaps above.
It also looks like there are models of the perfume bottles that have spring loaded caps, that flip up at the touch of a little button on the neck.
unfortunatly, the one pictured above is a true antique, and has a £445 price tag!
I'm pretty convinced that the production team just scooped up one of these cheaply then used it as it is for the last film. I don't think it is as complex as the original.
I dunno, that's how I see it anyway...
Yes that perfume bottle looks highly similar to the one in deathly hallows. I noticed when watching the film that the DH version looks smaller than the PS one. The slider on the PS one is larger and I think that the DH version might be push button released like the perfume bottle IIRC.
Anyway - it is a shame Noble Collection have not replicated this prop as it was one of the things I had thought noble would be most likely to do!
maybe they can put a bright LED on the end?
Here's another shot of it in Ron's hands. This photo suggests it may still be green, but a very very dark green. It looks like you can just see the cap release button on the neck too.
Really seems you're on to something there... Looks like nearly a dead on match.
Attached is a quick mashup of both PS and DH props in both open and closed I made in excel. I believe the PS prop is a found item and they have added things to it, and the DH version was made by the prop people to resemble the PS version. It seems to me that the DH version is small in comparison and does not have the internal extendy things.
are you sure, when i saw it i was sure that i saw the emiter when i went to see DH last week
I was about to post up my drawing but I think you captured it way better than I could! Our sketches are basically the same though so the question now is how to replicate it...
I saw some cheap perfume bottles of the same shape and size on ebay. However - I don't think I have any chances of replicating it - I would suggest making the body out of alu and keep the lid/caps - an internal slider mechanism - judging from my examination of the prop looks easy but for the most part very intricate.
Actually it seems (perhaps deceptively) fairl simple...
I'm actually surprised that the Noble Collection didn't put this out. It's a fairly important prop in the movie.
Assuming this is what they used, how do you suppose they managed the rising insert tube?
The antique scent bottles do not seem to have this, suggesting teh part was added on to the prop.
Pete SSS said:
I managed to dig up a shot of the scene where the will is read out. Here 's a cropped pic of Ron holding the deluminator. To me, it looks smaller than the original Philosophers stone one too. When looking at the screencaps above.
It also looks like there are models of the perfume bottles that have spring loaded caps, that flip up at the touch of a little button on the neck.
unfortunatly, the one pictured above is a true antique, and has a £445 price tag!
I'm pretty convinced that the production team just scooped up one of these cheaply then used it as it is for the last film. I don't think it is as complex as the original.
I dunno, that's how I see it anyway...
I don't think that the extending part exists on the Deathly Hallows version, but I don;t think we can be certain until the DVD comes out.
It may be that the Philosophers/Scorcerers stone version had something fitted inside with a simple slide coming out of a slot milled in the side of the body, then, when it's pushed up out of the body, it simply pops the existing lid off on it's hinge?
Not sure. The Philosophers Stone version could be an entirely different set up than the DH one. As Construct pointed out, the lower cap is much smaller in the PS version, and the DH one looks to be symmetrycal (apologies for my spelling of symmetrical?)
These bottles seem to have these little glass "dabbers" in the end, I guess to apply the perfume with. It may be that the "emitter" Is simply this part left in the end?
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