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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #26

    I'm subscribing to this! I know all of my friends would want one of these But me first! Moehahahaha!
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #27

    Well, how about this one?

    The Great Ball, for when you don't want to miss:











    The red bumps took forever to figure out, but I think I've gotten them fairly close. Again, there isn't any definite shape to these, and each piece of reference has a slightly different shape and placement. I think this way looks the best.
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #28

    And, for Eric, a 1" diameter Poké Ball.

    You may be a little surprised; it looks like a moon orbiting a planet. With only 1/27 the volume of the larger ball, you might think the small one is too small.







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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #29

    Hi, not to down you idea or anything but why don't you use a hinge more like this.


    Please forgive the crude drawing, but I think it gets the point across. It would be a smaller hinge, so there would be more room on the inside for a slightly more correct interior. What do you think?
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #30

    I see what you're saying; but wouldn't it bind? Wouldn't the back of the ball need to pass through itself?

    I can always give it a try.
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #31

    Sorry, my computer didn't load the page right, lol, I'll be right back with a real response.
    Last edited by Eric Sigh; Aug 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM. Reason: My page didn't load right.
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #32

    I dunno actually, I think it might be pretty accurate

    I found this diagram that is hopefully accurate to the show



    In the upper left theres a size comparison, and I'm pretty sure it might give some measurements, if anybody can read japanese.
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    Aug 2, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #33

    Jm419 said: View Post
    Well, how about this one?

    The Great Ball, for when you don't want to miss:











    The red bumps took forever to figure out, but I think I've gotten them fairly close. Again, there isn't any definite shape to these, and each piece of reference has a slightly different shape and placement. I think this way looks the best.
    Also, this looks really awesome. I was gonna say the bumps might be a little wide set, but after looking at some reference pictures, I'd say they're spot on.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #34

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    Also, this looks really awesome. I was gonna say the bumps might be a little wide set, but after looking at some reference pictures, I'd say they're spot on.
    This is right on. I had to look at all the reference I could find, because to me, the Great Ball looks like a fat pig, even though it's nearly the same shape as the Poké Ball. It took me a while, but I think I got them set at the right point, got the shape right, and got them the right length, so they didn't look too close or too far apart in the front.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #35

    Jm419 said: View Post
    This is right on. I had to look at all the reference I could find, because to me, the Great Ball looks like a fat pig, even though it's nearly the same shape as the Poké Ball. It took me a while, but I think I got them set at the right point, got the shape right, and got them the right length, so they didn't look too close or too far apart in the front.
    Yeah, haha, I guess I'm just not used to seeing them so up close and detailed.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #36

    It'll be neat to see how it comes out.

    So I uploaded the Poké Ball parts to Shapeways, and it'd be more than $80 in plastic. Completely unacceptable, if you ask me; so I'm going to make the walls a third thinner and see how that impacts price.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #37

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    It'll be neat to see how it comes out.

    So I uploaded the Poké Ball parts to Shapeways, and it'd be more than $80 in plastic. Completely unacceptable, if you ask me; so I'm going to make the walls a third thinner and see how that impacts price.
    Oh wow, that is pretty terrible.

    You know, I actually just found out there's a place here where I live that does 3D printing. I wonder how much they'd charge for something like this...
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #38

    I'll see if I can get a reasonable estimate for pricing a bit later today. It'd kinda suck to redo all the balls, though. $80 is awful for something the size of a baseball; I don't really want to pay much more than $15 or $20 for parts.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #39

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    I'll see if I can get a reasonable estimate for pricing a bit later today. It'd kinda suck to redo all the balls, though. $80 is awful for something the size of a baseball; I don't really want to pay much more than $15 or $20 for parts.
    That is kind of steep, but if you want get it and make some molds It might be worth it? I duno if you planned on bringing it to junkyard and it depends on how many people want one. Maybe folks would be willing to chip in for the initial order for a discount on additional pokeballs.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #40

    If it were my baby, I would pay for it. But $80 is still pricey and $20 might make it feel too light/flimsy. In my opinion if you aren't able/willing to invest in it, a medium price range may work. A $50 price tag wouldn't be too bad....
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #41

    I'm working on it. I could always downscale it slightly - 2.5 in instead of 3 - and it would exponentially decrease price.

    I shaved off 1/3 of the inside thickness, so we'll see how it comes out. Uploading to Shapeways now.

    Anyway, another update for you folks. I did some work on the interior of the bottom shell, reworking the hinge as suggested so that the interior could be more accurate. It ought to save on material, too. Here are some photos of just the bottom half.





    The gold pins aren't behaving. If you want some in your build, I can always make up a part and sell it separately, but it won't come attached. There are some wonky geometry things going on that won't look right if I leave them in.

    Anyway, as you can see, the hinge looks much nicer now, and I have a new ball to show off too.

    The Ultra Ball, for when you really don't want to miss.











    You can see the old hinge in this image. The one below this text shows the new hinge design. I think it's much cleaner, and it allows for bottom shell detailing.



    This one was always my favorite. I just like it, I dunno.

    Lemme know what you think.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #42

    The more I look at the small ones the more I really want this to happen.
    I'm actually a little bummed to hear that you're going to modify it (I understand completely though, 80 dollars is way too much) since I really thought your first concepts would have provided an accurate weight and feel to the pokeballs.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #43

    Jm419 said: View Post
    I'm working on it. I could always downscale it slightly - 2.5 in instead of 3 - and it would exponentially decrease price.

    I shaved off 1/3 of the inside thickness, so we'll see how it comes out. Uploading to Shapeways now.

    Anyway, another update for you folks. I did some work on the interior of the bottom shell, reworking the hinge as suggested so that the interior could be more accurate. It ought to save on material, too. Here are some photos of just the bottom half.





    The gold pins aren't behaving. If you want some in your build, I can always make up a part and sell it separately, but it won't come attached. There are some wonky geometry things going on that won't look right if I leave them in.

    Anyway, as you can see, the hinge looks much nicer now, and I have a new ball to show off too.

    The Ultra Ball, for when you really don't want to miss.











    You can see the old hinge in this image. The one below this text shows the new hinge design. I think it's much cleaner, and it allows for bottom shell detailing.



    This one was always my favorite. I just like it, I dunno.

    Lemme know what you think.
    Ultra ball looks great. Each post just makes me more and more hopeful that this will work, lol.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #44

    I'll get one out there, hopefully. I just uploaded the new ones, and we'll see how it turns out. Unfortunately, it's not $80 overall - it's $80 for the Pokeball, plus another $40 for the Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and the Master Ball, as each has a different upper shell.

    Before we even get into silicone, we're looking at $200 just from Shapeways. Still, I ought to be able to shave off some of that at this point; by reducing it by a quarter overall, we could probably swing $150 or so, if I knew I was going to get orders.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #45

    Ok, now we're down to $70 overall for the one Poké Ball. This is pretty bad news.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #46

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    Ok, now we're down to $70 overall for the one Poké Ball. This is pretty bad news.
    I may be alone in requesting this but would it make a difference if it was just a ball that didn't open? Would that be any cheaper?
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #47

    What if the extra bits were separate pieces, so you could cast a normal pokeball, then glue the detail piece to one of the casts, and cast that? Or would that cost more money to make the molds?
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #48

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    What if the extra bits were separate pieces, so you could cast a normal pokeball, then glue the detail piece to one of the casts, and cast that? Or would that cost more money to make the molds?
    There are already replicas like that on the market though. Also, how will we catch pokemon if the pokeball doesn't open.
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    Aug 3, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #49

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    I may be alone in requesting this but would it make a difference if it was just a ball that didn't open? Would that be any cheaper?
    Not really. Same amount of material.

    I'm going to do some thinking about this. I'm not sure I can even mold these; the interior and exterior are going to be a bit of an issue.
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    Aug 4, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #50

    Interest thread is up in the Junkyard.

    MOD EDIT: Please do not post links to Junkyard threads, and please do not post pricing/sales info outside of the Junkyard.
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