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    Jul 31, 2012 - The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #1

    There don't seem to be any good Poké Ball replicas out there, which is unfortunate for those of us who grew up loving the games and/or the show. For years, we've been looking for a ball with a few characteristics:

    1. The Poké Ball must have detailing accurate to that shown on screen (some leeway is needed here, due to the disparity of detail and sizes shown).
    2. The Poké Ball must be made of a high quality material such as plastic or metal.
    3. The Poké Ball must open without adding unsightly and un-prototypical external hinges.

    I've spent some time getting this right, and I finally feel comfortable revealing what I believe to be the most accurate functional Poké Ball design yet produced.



    Here you can see that the black belting and the white detail buttons on the front are present. Sizing on the button was a guess at best, but this is a decent compromise.



    Here's a head on view, so you can get an idea of the size. The fact that the whole thing is spherical throws your senses off a bit; the radius of the large black circle here is only slightly less than a third of the radius of the entire ball. Again, the white circles are a best guess, but they're a good compromise between the massive amount of reference available from the show and the games.



    This is what's most exciting about this; there are no external hinges on the ball whatsoever. You're looking at a view from the right of the ball; the front of the ball is on the right side of this image. The rear, where the current open-capable offerings have placed their hinges, is clearly hinge free and accurate to the original design.



    This is how I did it. Without going into too much detail, the fact is, it's not truly physically possible to have the ball open the way it does in the show. This is a best-fit scenario; the back of the ball cannot be spherical if it is to open as it does onscreen. Clearly, that's not acceptable, so I've developed a new hinge type which allows the ball to open fairly accurately, without cluttering the outside of such an iconic design.

    The size of the item is 3" in diameter; the same as a large baseball. I'm still working on a latching mechanism for the front, but this is where the project is at the moment. Note that these are renders, and no prototypes exist at the moment.

    So, what do you think? At this point, it's very simple to produce the other balls in the series; I plan on making a Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and Master Ball in the next few days.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #2

    sweet. always interesting to see how one goes about fabricating a prop or costume that only existed as an animated 2D drawing.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #3

    I'd like to see an accurate interior as well, this is really cool though.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #4

    Here's the thing; the object simply can't exist in the real world. Seriously; look at this image:



    Sure, you can see the interior, but how is it supposed to function? How does it open? Where's the hardware to make it open?

    Either you have to sacrifice internal accuracy or external accuracy. Since we see the interior so rarely, I decided external accuracy was far more important. I can add some details, sure, but the structure is going to have to remain in place for the ball to function in the real world.

    Also, you might notice that the black belt is on the top half of the ball in this image. Again, that's a matter of personal preference, as it's shown both ways onscreen.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #5

    You might be able to work some of the interior design around your hinge mechanism.

    btw, notice that the center button attaches to the top.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #6

    Jm419 said: View Post
    Also, you might notice that the black belt is on the top half of the ball in this image. Again, that's a matter of personal preference, as it's shown both ways onscreen.


    There simply isn't a way to get a functional ball with such a detailed interior. Yes, I can put it in, but much of it will be covered by the mechanism inside.
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    Jul 31, 2012 - #7

    Wow! Looks awesome, cant wait to see it happen
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #8

    This looks awesome! I can't wait to see more!
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #9

    Nice.
    You should visit the 'pay it forward' thread. One of these keeps popping up there for trade
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #10

    what if you used a flat leaf spring that runs along to inside joining the two halves. So its under tension when the ball is closed. Once the button releases the clasp holding the ball closed the spring would try to snap back into its original shape which is flat....'ish

    That way you can have both the outside and inside match the drawing.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #11

    Oh wow, this is incredible looking. I really like how you figured out a way to make an internal "hinge" as opposed to an unsightly outer one.
    I was talking about something similar in a thread yesterday.
    Pokeballs seem to be getting a little popularity. Let's hope someone will want to start producing them.
    Have you ever thought of making a design of the smaller ones?
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #12

    This. Looks. AMAZING. Any thoughts about making one where the front button lights up like it does in the show?
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    Syrus said: View Post
    This. Looks. AMAZING. Any thoughts about making one where the front button lights up like it does in the show?
    Forget the light, is there anyway you can get it to shoot a lazer that converts matter into energy and then store said energy inside itself?
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #14

    Wow! I'm glad to see there's so much interest in these. Let me answer your questions here.

    AZNmastermind said: View Post
    Wow! Looks awesome, cant wait to see it happen
    somnambulus said: View Post
    This looks awesome! I can't wait to see more!
    Thanks guys! Wait until I get some new renders up; I hope to have the belt issue figured out today, and make up a Great Ball as well.

    Nobby said: View Post
    Nice.
    You should visit the 'pay it forward' thread. One of these keeps popping up there for trade
    I never did understand how that worked. I'm not a Premium Member anymore, though, so I can't even see it.

    Doctor49152 said: View Post
    what if you used a flat leaf spring that runs along to inside joining the two halves. So its under tension when the ball is closed. Once the button releases the clasp holding the ball closed the spring would try to snap back into its original shape which is flat....'ish

    That way you can have both the outside and inside match the drawing.
    But how would you control the movement? The problem is, there has to be a hinge somewhere, to ensure the thing opens in the back. Otherwise, the spring would just exert a force straight up, so the ball wouldn't be accurate.

    I'm afraid the hinge is here to stay; the entire ball is only 3" in diameter, and while the hinge could use some adjustment, it is perfectly functional at this time.

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    Oh wow, this is incredible looking. I really like how you figured out a way to make an internal "hinge" as opposed to an unsightly outer one.
    I was talking about something similar in a thread yesterday.
    Pokeballs seem to be getting a little popularity. Let's hope someone will want to start producing them.
    Have you ever thought of making a design of the smaller ones?
    I saw the thread, actually. I figured it was a good time to post.

    The smaller ones? You mean the ping-pong sized ones? They would be hard to make functional, just because of material constraints.

    Syrus said: View Post
    This. Looks. AMAZING. Any thoughts about making one where the front button lights up like it does in the show?
    Wouldn't be too hard to put a LED in it once it's done. This is designed for ABS plastic, and it should light up nicely if a laser's inside to light it up.

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    Forget the light, is there anyway you can get it to shoot a lazer that converts matter into energy and then store said energy inside itself?
    You find me one, I'll put it in.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #15

    Jm419 said: View Post
    I saw the thread, actually. I figured it was a good time to post.

    The smaller ones? You mean the ping-pong sized ones? They would be hard to make functional, just because of material constraints.
    Oh no, not functioning.
    I just figured if you'd be making high quality large, functional pokeballs, you'd be able to make a really good looking small one. You know, to clip onto a belt or to be put in a bag or something.
    I dunno, I guess i'm just tired of seeing low quality pokeballs, and never anything that actually looks good. (I've been playing the pokemon games for around 14 years, so I'm pretty excited towards this idea)
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #16

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    Oh no, not functioning.
    I just figured if you'd be making high quality large, functional pokeballs, you'd be able to make a really good looking small one. You know, to clip onto a belt or to be put in a bag or something.
    These are the "large" size as seen in the anime, but I think folks might be surprised at just how small they are. 3" is the same size, more or less, as a baseball.

    It would be really easy to make small ones, yes. Just print in one piece, or whatever. What would you think, 1" diameter? I can work on those tomorrow, if you'd like. Shouldn't take long at all.

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    I dunno, I guess i'm just tired of seeing low quality pokeballs, and never anything that actually looks good. (I've been playing the pokemon games for around 14 years, so I'm pretty excited towards this idea)
    This one is supposed to fill that void. I'm just completing the original 'Dex myself, in Yellow, and I wanted one of these that'd be a nice piece to go along with it. If I'm gonna be a Pokémon Master, I might as well have the hardware to match, right?

    When I have all four (really, three; the Ultra Ball is just a repaint of the Poké Ball) in hand, and I'm satisfied with print quality, and all that, I might offer them for sale. That's a ways down the road, though, and I'm not going to put anything out I'm not happy with. They're supposed to look good and work just as well.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #17

    Swapped the belt around:



    And did some interior work:



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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #18

    If you get this off the ground, please send me a message.
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    Jm419 said: View Post
    These are the "large" size as seen in the anime, but I think folks might be surprised at just how small they are. 3" is the same size, more or less, as a baseball.

    It would be really easy to make small ones, yes. Just print in one piece, or whatever. What would you think, 1" diameter? I can work on those tomorrow, if you'd like. Shouldn't take long at all.



    This one is supposed to fill that void. I'm just completing the original 'Dex myself, in Yellow, and I wanted one of these that'd be a nice piece to go along with it. If I'm gonna be a Pokémon Master, I might as well have the hardware to match, right?

    When I have all four (really, three; the Ultra Ball is just a repaint of the Poké Ball) in hand, and I'm satisfied with print quality, and all that, I might offer them for sale. That's a ways down the road, though, and I'm not going to put anything out I'm not happy with. They're supposed to look good and work just as well.

    Haha, only if you'd like. I'd imagine it'd just be a resizing of the one you already have, along with maybe making the black belt flush with the rest of the ball. Or maybe not. I'm not quite sure how the smaller one would look in real life.
    Haha, and I'm more than ready for the wait, believe me. Kinda hard to let go of something once you hit that ten year mark, you know?
    Lol, and I agree. You can't be a pokémon master without a pokéball that looks like a pokéball.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #20

    Jm419 said: View Post
    Swapped the belt around:



    And did some interior work:



    This looks beyond awesome.
    I'm going to be watching this thread closer than mine, haha.
    I really like how it looks with the belt on top rather than bottom, but like you said, that's just a personal preference.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #21

    great work. i will be waiting for you to produce these for sale. keep up the great work
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    aceofknaves88 said: View Post
    If you get this off the ground, please send me a message.
    I'll do that once I get a prototype in and working. Thanks.

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    Haha, only if you'd like. I'd imagine it'd just be a resizing of the one you already have, along with maybe making the black belt flush with the rest of the ball. Or maybe not. I'm not quite sure how the smaller one would look in real life.
    Haha, and I'm more than ready for the wait, believe me. Kinda hard to let go of something once you hit that ten year mark, you know?
    Lol, and I agree. You can't be a pokémon master without a pokéball that looks like a pokéball.
    I'll give you a render, alongside a render of this one. I wanna figure out the Great Ball tomorrow; the interior took up my time today. If I have time, I'll do a quick mock up of the solid small ball tomorrow.

    Pokémon is one of those things that you don't outgrow. I think that's unique to our generation, but it's a part of us now, in the same way Star Wars is for our parents, or whatever.

    Eric Sigh said: View Post
    This looks beyond awesome.
    I'm going to be watching this thread closer than mine, haha.
    I really like how it looks with the belt on top rather than bottom, but like you said, that's just a personal preference.
    Most of the reference has it on the top, and that's the way I'll do it. I like it better, anyway. I just had to see it.

    kalissuperman said: View Post
    great work. i will be waiting for you to produce these for sale. keep up the great work
    I don't want to guarantee anything, but I hope that'll all work out.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #23

    I've always wanted a Pokeball of my own lol

    the best version I have ever found is a Jakks Pacific Electronic Pokeball,


    but honestly, a replica would be AWESOME.
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    C0mmand3rC0dy said: View Post
    I've always wanted a Pokeball of my own lol

    the best version I have ever found is a Jakks Pacific Electronic Pokeball,


    but honestly, a replica would be AWESOME.
    Does this one count?

    Shapeways may be prohibitively expensive, but I can always cast a shell, see how it turns out.
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    Aug 1, 2012 - Re: The Poké Ball: An Accurate and Functional Representation #25

    Look great! The button on top when open definitely looks a lot better. I'll be following the progress of this =)
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