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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #76

    Yep, the worst thing you can do is bid it up just a few dollars at a time trying to see where the high bidder is at. It adds a lot to the bid count and draws attention to it. I have seen items sell for way above what another "Buy It Now" is listed for at the same time because of this. Sometimes it is shill bidders for sure driving up the count. Sniping sometimes is the best way to protect yourself from unscrupulous sellers using shills to just under bid you too.

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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #77

    exoray said: View Post
    Snipping doesn't counter the bids being placed, it simply dumps your max bid in with only a few seconds left in the auction... So there is no reaction time, as it's simply placing a bid the idea it to limit the other persons reaction time, snipe goes in with 3 seconds left and Ebay processes it, by the time Ebay process that bid and the other people hit refresh and see your bid @ 1 maybe 2 seconds left there isn't enough time to type in a new bid and get it processed, it can take that long for the page to refresh, let along leave you enough time to enter a counter bid...
    You forget, one can refresh on one page and bid on another.

    So which sniping software do you use? EZ snipe lets you set the bid time. With three seconds left you are relying on the software to bid without even knowing the course of the bidding yourself. How exactly would you change your maximum then if in the last five seconds your own maximum bid is exceeded even before the sniping software bids?

    Set your bidding interval

    Use strategy when to bid, even if it is very late in your auctions. Five seconds is a good general rule if you are using our sniper service. Our system automatically adjusts for busy and slower times on eBay. However, don't put too much emphasis on making your bid the last one to arrive at eBay. If someone bids after you, the proxy system will instantly raise your bid above his. Sometimes, if you expect other snipers to bid very late, it may help to bid before them at fifteen or twenty seconds before the close. eBay's rules state an earlier bid equal to a later bid takes precedent.
    And this earlier bid must be made 17 milliseconds prior. If it is 15 milliseconds prior, it won't succeed.

    For Auction Sniper:

    Enter your lead time. The lead time is the amount of seconds before the item end time that you want your bid to be place. We recommend a lead time of 5 seconds.
    GIXEN:

    Wider choice of snipe time choices (3,6,8,10,12 and 15 seconds).
    So they only allow 6 or 3 seconds. And you wouldn't have time to change your own maximum with three seconds left using the software.

    Bidnapper:

    When you submit a bid manually, or with another snipping service, it is important to know how long it takes to send the bid to the auction site, and have the confirmation return to you. And, you may want to add a few additional seconds to safeguard against a slow connection or heavy traffic. That is how long before the close of the auction you should send a bid. You can call it a buffer, or a margin, or an offset.
    Transmission delay for a bid to make it to ebay and then return the result is around 1-2 seconds, depending on network speed. The one-way trip could be as short as 350 milliseconds. This assumes the software is perfectly synchronized to ebay's clock (if it has that feature), which itself will be synchronized to some unknown source. Then there is the matter of when your own sniping software snipes in relation to other sniping software users. If you are setting standard snipe times of 3, 5, or 6 or even 10 seconds, those bids will all come in at once. However, the different user's sniping software's chronological reference may be slightly off with respect to one another. Depending on which bid is earlier, a difference of 2 ms may matter.....

    For Max-Bid-Timer II software:

    Using Network Time Protocol and a host of free Network Timeservers, Max-Bid-Timer can offer a timing accuracy of [+/-] 1 Second, giving you the edge over many other sniper systems currently available.
    So if that is what they call "an edge", plus or minus 1 full second amounts to a range of three seconds . A lot can happen in three seconds. If you set the sniping software to snipe at 3 seconds, it might snipe at 4, or at 2, or at 3. If you set it for 5 seconds, it may bid at 4, at 6, or at 5.

    Although:

    Because SnipeRight uses our high-performance servers to place bids, it has very accurate timers. The timing of your bids is accurate to within milliseconds.
    Or so they claim.

    To me it still makes more sense to watch the bids and then put in your final bid rather than relying on sniper software which won't give you time to react if the bid is higher. Of course if you have the time then you wouldn't use the software to begin with I suppose.
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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #78

    SithLord said: View Post
    Of course if you have the time then you wouldn't use the software to begin with I suppose.
    That's a BINGO!

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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #79

    SithLord said: View Post
    You forget, one can refresh on one page and bid on another.
    Nope didn't forget about it, it's just logistically hard to do, the standard Ebay page for me can take ~1 seconds to refresh... You still need to enter the bid and it's a two step process that requires another bid confirmation page to load before your bid is entered, now if a snipe goes through at 3 seconds left, you won't notice it until after there is less than 3 seconds on the clock left, basically you are left to do a double refresh and enter your new bid, not impossible but not exactly easy even with two browser windows open, and at that point you are simply manually sniping not reconsidering upping your bid to counter the snipe just entered at 3 seconds earlier...

    How exactly would you change your maximum then if in the last five seconds your own maximum bid is exceeded even before the sniping software bids?
    I don't if someone bid higher my bid is rejected and I lose or my bid never goes through, I set my max bid on the snipe and let fate fall in place... Like I said if I really want it I will set my snipe to 2-3 times what it should close at, if anyone else wins it they wanted it a hell of a lot more than me...
    Last edited by exoray; Apr 1, 2010 at 8:59 PM.
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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #80

    SithLord said: View Post
    To me it still makes more sense to watch the bids and then put in your final bid rather than relying on sniper software which won't give you time to react if the bid is higher. Of course if you have the time then you wouldn't use the software to begin with I suppose.
    The point of sniping is to not make more than one bid.
    You bid your max.
    If you have to place a second bid, you didn't bid your max in the first place and that's not sniping.
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    Apr 1, 2010 - Re: Ok who sniped me!! #81

    Sucka!
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