If the revisions do come, they should probably take all the Nike logos off. I heard that if they get too accurate that Nike might sue the company that makes them.
Man, I would LOVE more accurate Mags. If one of these makers could get better fabric, clear soles and slightly better form, I would buy SEVERAL pairs.
We will still have to add the lighting but I have that down to a science now.
Brad, GREAT job on that splatter paint. It really looks close to the pattern on the official shoes. It must take lots and lots of practice, huh?
But I gotta ask.... in all the pictures you post, the color looks rather blue-ish. This could totally be the white balance of the camera and/or computer screen, as I see the color matches the "MAG" stickers quite well, and I know those aren't blue. But whenever I see pics of the official shoes, studio or amateur, the splatter color always looks more green or dark teal to my eyes. Not trying to be nit-picky, just curious how yours look in person?
/\ You are correct. I wanted to match the MAG logo rather than try to paint it the correct green/teal. In person the "blueish" color is much more subtle and from a foot away it looks VERY subtle.
Yes the "splatter" takes a LONG time to do. If you look closely you will see that there are very fine, hair width, splatter lines throughout the painting. On the real MAG's they are all over and make up 90% of the splatter. The larger spatters are few and far between.
The color of the paint on the original MAG's differs with lighting:
THESE LOOK MORE BLUE
WHILE THESE LOOK MORE GREEN:
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The first shot is heaps brighter too, so that will change the way the colour looks. From all the images I have seen, the spatter/dots looks to be the same as the MAG.
Here are two images I pulled from the EBAY auctions last September. The light levels are closer so you can see that the colour is more consistent. It is also interesting that the soles lights don't seen to change the colour either - [think bias lighting or the colour of a wall behind a TV and how it changed the colours of the set]
Lights ON
Lights OFF
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I found a site that sells the shoes and uses paypal. It says it's the official Nike site, but that's obviously a lie. Anyway, here it is.
http://www.kwaibay.com/nike-shoes-ni...c-184_236.html
Yes someone did say that they contacted the manufacture. The way I see this, if we want changes made, we need many people telling the same manufacture the same thing or they don't do anything. They won't just change their line because on guy asked if it could be done. So I asked the guy that made the claim to PM me the details and so far nothing. If the shoes are altered and clear soles offered, then all the sites that sell these will have the same new model(s).
Looking at the images of the real shoes, and sure a whole new sole is one way, but what about making just an extension to the existing sole? If you notice the clear parts of the real shoe extend out. They are not flush like our knock offs of the MAG. Therefore, this part could be made from any flexible clear material - even silicon rubber. Attach the EL paper to the existing sole and attach the new part over the top. Of course as I have not done this yet, my idea might not be possible, but I found a really course fly screen (pet proof) that I think might just provide the 'waffle' effect for these parts.
I didn't really want to mess with the Western Union payment, and it would have cost just as much, so I ordered a pair from the new site Mitas just linked. Payment is sent, and now I wait. And tomorrow I'll be contacting my bank to get the BLC charge reversed.
Thanks MF,
For everyone, here is a tutorial I put together for the Markpoon NIKE's.
Nike Toe Slimming Tutorial - YouTube
Great tutorial, Brad! I have to ask, how many Mark Poon Mags do you have now?! Are we going to see you on some future Hollywood-themed episode of Hoarders with a room just filled to the ceiling with them?
Seriously, thought, great work as always.
-Nick
LOL! I actually only have 2 of my own. But I am finishing the conversion on another pair for Funky Jedi. But I also have 3 other MAG soles from Markpoon for my other conversion that I was doing, that is now on hold...
Once I finish these last two pair, I will disply one pair and MAYBE walk around in the other pair...though my toes stick out the toe section worse than Marty Mcfly's did. If only these were made in size 10.5-11!!!
These are mine. The ones in the background are Funky's, getting ready to be finished.
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That is great work Brad.
@ Nick, looking back, do you think this method of reforming the shoe might have worked with the your set instead of doing the complete tear down you have done? I ask because that toe box that Brad shows looks almost the same as the one you show in your tear down video.
I don't think the toe box is nearly as big a problem as the material the upper is made from.
True, but again, what should we really expect for the price paid?
Not the point. If you care enough to modify the toe, I think you probably care enough to go all out, or at least replace the materials. Although maybe that's just my point of view, having recently discovered my grandmother used to be a cobbler and having a very long talk with her. Patterning and attaching a new upper seems easy to me compared to the electronics work, although I can't say anything for sure until I take a pair apart and look at them. Compared to tailoring though, this looks like a walk in the park.
If you've spent as much time as I have searching for the correct fabric and taking these shoes apart, you would understand that these shoes are NOT as simple as you'd think.
I can't wait until you get yours and tear them down. You'll then understand more about these. Other than the small size, the Markpoon shoes are closer to the original prop shoes than you would think. The original shoes had a very thin and not very sturdy foam infrastructure that stopped before the toe section.
I hope you are right and I now expect that once you have your KMags in hand that it will only be a matter of hours for you to have the patterns made and sewn and installed.
That's the plan, although I may take them out for a few spins before I tear them down. You may be right about them being more complicated than I'd expect, but from what I've seen and some of my past projects, I don't think I'll have TOO hard a time with it. Either way, I'm looking forward to a new challenge.
Oh, and I should probably mention that having seen all the reference images, I'm leaning more toward making a pair of idealized shoes than anything exactly copied. For instance, I plan to attach the elastic straps only at the base of the shoe so that they have a lot of room to tighten down. I've never been a fan of slip-on shoes. I don't plan to glue the fabric down to the foam, either. But again, can't say anything for sure until I take a good look at them.
It is the totally the point. If money was no object, those of us that really want NIKE MAG shoes would be buying them at $5K a pair and not thinking twice about it. Point is, money is the limiting factor here for many of us.
I bought the Mark Poon shoes in 2010 because they were both affordable and the closest thing to the MAG shoe I'd ever seen. If they came in multi sizes, I would have bought more pairs and be wearing them out.
The only reason I went for these shoes now called K-MAGs is because they do come in multiple sizes. I am not that bothered that they are not an exact replica and I quite like the look of the shoes I have.
I am wanting to change the colour as the white is a bit plain.