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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #201

    Ah.. Missed that one.. Definitely a nice version.. His wins..
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #202

    Beechy McFly said: View Post
    Ah.. Missed that one.. Definitely a nice version.. His wins..
    Thanks
    As VashDstampede already started with the snake border for the pages (they look very good ) my proposal would be to think about possible drawings or ornate initials for the pages.
    As we don't have clear pictures from the actual pages from the first movie book I started to work on a first ornate initial (The "K" picture post #70) as seen in the second part of the movie.

    I think we really need artwork for two reasons:
    1. They look good (hopefully )
    2. We have quite some pages to fill up to make the book look heavy and not too thin

    The advantage of using ornate initials as one part of the artwork is that we already have a guideline how they look and can use this info to create similar ornaments for other initials if needed.
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #203

    I think I know the font to use for the sticker, just not paying that much for it.. LOL.. I think it is the Bookman Complete Font..
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #204

    This is comming along great.. Awesome work on everyones part...
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #205

    This is so cool! I've always wanted a prop version of the book!
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #206

    Hello guys and gals!
    Going to the lake this weekend and excited about reading this post when I get back.
    Can someone compile a list of who is doing what.
    It may seem like a small thing but it is important and needed already twice we have had 2 people do the same thing.
    If we have to buy a font than we should, After all it would likely cost nothing spread out over this many people.
    I am set to start molding and casting upon approval of the Auryn, and extremely enthused to be working with so many super people.
    cheers.
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #207

    darthinvictus said: View Post
    Can someone compile a list of who is doing what.
    Ok, I will try
    Feel free to add comments or your name behind the points if you can/want to help (specify what you can do), already worked on the topic or if you have infos/ideas...
    ... or of course add additional points

    I can also maintain an Excel list offline if this gets too large...


    Book Cover:
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    - overall size:
    - cover material:
    - cover color:
    - corner castings:
    - Auryn casting:
    - title text:
    - Beechy McFly
    - Eduard
    - title color:
    - title stamp for embossing:
    - Embossing:

    Book Interior:
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    - marbled paper:
    - bookstore sticker (done):
    -Beechy McFly
    -Eduard

    Book:
    ------

    - page size:
    - paper thickness:
    - red/white bookmark strips
    - top/bottom snake border:
    - ornate initials:
    - drawings/illustrations:
    - textlayout (if we add):
    - font to use:
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    Jan 29, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #208

    Rik1138 said: View Post
    I think that's just a cutting technique use on the book during manufacturing...
    More accurately, it's an absence of cutting. What you're seeing is the bundles of 5 to 10 folded pages all stacked on one another. The ones closer to the center will sitck out further, giving it that uneven zig zag effect. Usually a hydraulic guillotine sort of thing will chop and even this area out. But some special editions and hand bound books leave the uneveness there for asthetic purposes...or they just don't have the machinery to do it. Which probably means the entire book was hand made from scratch specifically for the movie as opposed to just dressing up a found book.
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    Jan 30, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #209

    Great work on this one so far. As a fan from my youth and an avid book collector, I look forward to the finish.
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    Jan 31, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #210

    Beechy McFly said: View Post
    I think I know the font to use for the sticker, just not paying that much for it.. LOL.. I think it is the Bookman Complete Font..
    Complete? Sounds like a big font package. You only need Bookman Standard Medium Italic: http://www.linotype.com/de/168283/it...ractermap.html
    You'll need to make the second K from a regular one and a swashed one.
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    Feb 1, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #211

    MacGuffin said: View Post
    Complete? Sounds like a big font package. You only need Bookman Standard Medium Italic: http://www.linotype.com/de/168283/it...ractermap.html
    You'll need to make the second K from a regular one and a swashed one.
    No, it's not that one. Notice where the 'tales' (whatever they are called) come off the capital A. In Bookman Standard, they come of the bottom, but on the label in the book they come off the very top of the A. The specific font is "Bookman JF Swash A" as seen here:
    http://www.identifont.com/show?IOH
    It's apparently only available from Veer:
    http://www.veer.com/products/typedet...age=JBT0000086
    I don't buy fonts, so I don't know if there's other places to get them... Someone might have it in a large 'font pack' or something...

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    Feb 1, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #212

    Any ribbon experts for the bookmark?
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #213

    darthinvictus said: View Post
    Any ribbon experts for the bookmark?
    If you get me the best pic we have on the ribbon, I can do some legwork in that area. I will email the pic out to some companies that specialize in that sort of thing and see what is available.
    If it has to be sewn into the book with the pages, we will have to determine if, whoever is binding the books, will be able to unclude the ribbon as well.
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #214

    Yeah some pics of it would be great..
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #215

    How much is needed to buy the fonts?
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #216

    Expensive.. I have done a lot of digging to try and find it free, but that Veer.com one does it for €99,00 EUR..
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #217

    Just got back from vacation and I'm back working on this project.

    I don't think there's any need to buy fonts for the sticker, since it has or could be done easily with a little bit of alteration to existing fonts we may have.
    I used to work at my dad's sign shop for 12 years, so I'll go check his library of fonts this week and see if he has the exact one.
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #218

    GeneralFROSTY said: View Post
    If you get me the best pic we have on the ribbon, I can do some legwork in that area. I will email the pic out to some companies that specialize in that sort of thing and see what is available.
    If it has to be sewn into the book with the pages, we will have to determine if, whoever is binding the books, will be able to unclude the ribbon as well.
    There's a screen shot in post 66 that shows them with the book closed...

    Here's another shot of them hanging out the bottom while Bastian is reading it.
    There's two of them, one red and one white.
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #219

    What's the purpose of the two ribbons?
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    Feb 2, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #220

    Book marks. 'Fancy' books have these a lot... You just flip them down the page you are reading when you stop. I'm not sure why there's two, either for two different readers, or they were meant to be tied together just making one multi-colored one (you see the ends tied together in some shots...)
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    Feb 5, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #221

    Bigger, fancier reference books frequently had multiple ribbons, since you were meant to refer to different sections frequently. I used to own a 20s encyclopedia with five ribbons; one of the cheaper ones since each was the same color as the others.

    Putting two ribbons on it implies a separate section that the author expected you to reference. An appendix or index, perhaps?
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    Feb 7, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #222

    The edges are indeed rough at the edges, they are called deckled edges.
    I am told it will be a challange to get the lasers on the binding equiptment to read the edges properly. The couple that is helping cunsult also believe the cover may not be leather but an odd cardboard felt amalgum I forget the name of but they had some on hand and it is a close match.
    Anyone else have news?
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    Feb 7, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #223

    Not much from my side - unfortunately I don't have much time at the moment

    As I mentioned I started with one of the ornate initials as seen in the pic.
    This is not finished yet I have to smooth the lines etc. - just want to give you a short preview
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    Feb 7, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #224

    darthinvictus said: View Post
    The edges are indeed rough at the edges, they are called deckled edges.
    I am told it will be a challange to get the lasers on the binding equiptment to read the edges properly. The couple that is helping cunsult also believe the cover may not be leather but an odd cardboard felt amalgum I forget the name of but they had some on hand and it is a close match.
    Anyone else have news?
    Take a look at the high-res pic I posted in post #177. It shows the book at an angle, and you see 'wrinkles' that look like leather, and that it's somewhat reflecting light from the set (like leather would being slightly glossy). The felt material doesn't sound like it would do that, but I'm not exactly sure what it is they are describing...

    Rik
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    Feb 7, 2010 - Re: Never Ending Story The Book #225

    Dont get me wrong I think it should be leather even if the screen used wasnt. But what the guy showed me looked exactly like one of the screencaps. I am all for Idealized props in almost all situations, when i was ten my mind was awesome at filling in gaps.
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