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    Apr 10, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1151

    JohnsonArms said: View Post
    Man, that came out looking slick! I'm happy to have played my bit part in the inspiration for making these great toys

    Thank you as well for the help in answering questions posted here. I try to stop by as often as possible, but my schedule of two full-time jobs has really had me buried here lately..plus side? Lots of photos coming

    All the best and I hope you keep making them!

    Brian


    Cool, I'm glad you like, it means a lot coming from a master such as yourself


    Whew! I was worried I was hijacking your thread by answering questions directed to you. I'm trying to give as much due credit in my responses and only answer questions I actually know about. You can consider me your apprentice in this amazing art as I am truly hooked.

    I managed to pick up one of the last longshots (they only had four) from toys r us in Chester for my bro's pulse rifle mod, and an element ex 6 (for £10). I now have a cool scope for the long strike/halo mod (I think it looks halo-ish anyway), and an extra "laser" sight for the FrankenNerf (I've started calling it The Pug.


    While I'm on the subject of lasers, here's what it looks like on "the pug" (shyly modeled by its happy owner) :





    I sripped out and drilled the battery compartment to fit my eldest's pen laser. It did have a button for an led, but was given permission to remove it.



    I then chopped up the slidy focus thing for a new inner switch to turn the laser on (I made the first one too shallow so ended up having use the other side) :



    Once I was happy with the alignment and everything was secure I drilled out the lens, and hand routed the remaining so it was flush to the orenge plastic (dremel is your friend ). The lense is a great alignment tool, so leave the lens for last as you can see the laser as it passes through making it easy to get it bang on.



    For better results I'd also use a one trick pony pen laser. The laser emitter is off centre in this one to make room for the now useless led. It's no biggie with this one off mod, but I've come up with a better idea and I'll need a centred one for it.
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    Apr 11, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1152

    Nice build, Canobi!

    I've been inspired by the post for awhile now and I'm in the process of getting the prep work done of some Nerf guns, etc., myself. (What a looooong process.)

    But, I couldn't wait to get some paint on something quick, so I did a couple of cheap squirt guns for fun. Check 'em out and let me know what you think, guys.



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    Apr 11, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1153

    I showed my nephew this thread (who has an enormous amount of nerf guns), he wanted me to paint up a longstrike for him. (yellow stripe idea came from johnson arms... couldn't resist its just too darn cool)

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    Apr 11, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1154

    Nice one Solo, they came out great I'm glad my work inspired you but all credit to JhonsonArms for the inspiration, he's the one that got me started.

    Yeh, preperation can take ages :/ , but it pays off in the end. I think there should be a new catagory of RSI = prop sanders elbow = I mostly just concentrate on the areas that will be handled the most now (or I won't have any elbows by this time next year ). Can't wait to see more from you, keep it up

    @Ironfett
    I love the longstrike, and the weathering on it is awesome

    I would love some weathering tips from you guys. All my experiance has been on a somewhat smaller scale and I'm finding my techniques don't translate to the larger format very well. Hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions?

    IronFett, the areas that look like the paint has chipped off, is that just silver over the top of the original paintwork? It's realy affective if it is.

    Solo, the silver one looks like its been kicking around for a while, is that a wash of some sort? That too is a good effect, not battered, but used a lot. I like = )

    I've always been into making, modding and kit bashing stuff, so that part of it is just application on my part, the art form in this for me is the "lifelike" appearance of the finished piece. I'd love to get that battered about look down too, and you guys inspire me to try and nail it, thanks
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    Apr 11, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1155

    I use liquid latex to mask off the areas I want to stay silver. Then I dusted the entire gun with a flat black mist. I was gonna do some more rusting and natural weathering but I was runnin short on time.
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    Apr 11, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1156

    In the case of the silver ray gun, Canobi, I sprayed the gun with gray primer, then wiped silver spray paint over the high points so it looked like the recess was oxidized. It really gives it dimension and looks quite realistic.

    Glad you like it! It is definitely my favorite of these 2.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1157

    Thanks guys

    I'll give these techniques a go
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1158

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    I use liquid latex to mask off the areas I want to stay silver. Then I dusted the entire gun with a flat black mist. I was gonna do some more rusting and natural weathering but I was runnin short on time.
    Hi IronFett

    Got some latex I got fluorescent orenge as it won't get lost on any of the colours I'd use. I figured it would be harder to try and get the edges right if the latex was too close in colour to paint job I was working on.

    When you say light dustings, is this in terms of spray speed (i.e lightly pressed nozzle) or distance from object?


    Making something plastic look rusty is a true art and I've seen some great examples on this forum.

    I did a bit of googeling and I found this looking up rust effect:

    Gold Leaf Supplies : For all your gold leaf, silver leaf and gilding supplies

    It's called rust patina. It comes as an iron rich paint and a seperate oxidising agent. I'd also get the sealing agent so you can stop the rusting at just the right point. I can't wait to try out mine, I just ordered some as its perfect for a seperate project I'm working on
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1159

    more distance than speed, a great lesson for rust is metallic painting techniques from stan winston online. Ive been doing it and its been a HUGE benefit.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1160

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    more distance than speed, a great lesson for rust is metallic painting techniques from stan winston online. Ive been doing it and its been a HUGE benefit.
    Thanks IronFett, I'll look him up
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1161

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    Thanks IronFett, I'll look him up
    If you dont know who that guy is, the rest of the rpf will gather the pitchforks..
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1162

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    If you dont know who that guy is, the rest of the rpf will gather the pitchforks..


    Let's just pretend I never said that then ok

    Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob to props and it's lineage. I only started last year by making Tron costumes for me and the wife, and it kind of spirelled from there. It's sad I know, but I'm having a whale of a time finding and learning from some of the amazing artists in this field.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1163

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    Hi IronFett

    Got some latex I got fluorescent orenge as it won't get lost on any of the colours I'd use. I figured it would be harder to try and get the edges right if the latex was too close in colour to paint job I was working on.

    When you say light dustings, is this in terms of spray speed (i.e lightly pressed nozzle) or distance from object?


    Making something plastic look rusty is a true art and I've seen some great examples on this forum.

    I did a bit of googeling and I found this looking up rust effect:

    Gold Leaf Supplies : For all your gold leaf, silver leaf and gilding supplies

    It's called rust patina. It comes as an iron rich paint and a seperate oxidising agent. I'd also get the sealing agent so you can stop the rusting at just the right point. I can't wait to try out mine, I just ordered some as its perfect for a seperate project I'm working on
    Another way of weathering, specifically to create rubbed off areas as opposed to chipped, is to carefully sand away the top coat with a very fine grained sandpaper or 0000 steel wool. You just sand away with a light touch and before long you'll have sanded away the top coat of paint to reveal the base coat. I'd give some thought to wear to apply this technique to since not all areas will have had the paint/bluing rubbed off, this generally happens in areas that are touched/manipulated a lot. On a rifle this would be the trigger, around the edges of a pistol grip on a modern assault type rifle, charging handle or bolt, safety, mag release, and sometimes at the edges of the muzzle. On a (automatic) pistol you'll see wear on the trigger, mag release, slide release, hammer release (if present), edges of the muzzle, rear of the slide where you'd grip it to cock the pistol and occasionally around the top depending on how you grip the pistol to cock it.

    To get a good idea of where a top coat typically wears off on a gun I'd look at pictures of old guns, look at a bunch of them and you'll start to get a good idea of where this sort of weathering occurs. Combined with the latex mask method you'll have a very realistically weathered look to your gun since not all areas chip off and not all areas simply wear off either. Also keep in mind that raised surfaces and edges wear/chip the most and are often the first areas to show weathering.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1164

    Big thanks riceball, that's top notch tips right there You guys are awesome
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1165

    Wow you guys are rocking it with these mods. I've not been back to this thread for some time, but I'm glad I popped by today.

    Canobi, The Pug is great. I love it when people use bits and pieces for their mods. Oh and on a side note, the kid in the photo is gorgeous, so cute!! I love how he has a Star Wars hoody on.. well trained ;p As for what you said about prep, it's the worst part isn't it, it takes ages, but worth it I guess.

    Anyways just wanted to say hey and that I'm loving the updates here. I really should check in more often.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1166

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    Wow you guys are rocking it with these mods. I've not been back to this thread for some time, but I'm glad I popped by today.

    Canobi, The Pug is great. I love it when people use bits and pieces for their mods. Oh and on a side note, the kid in the photo is gorgeous, so cute!! I love how he has a Star Wars hoody on.. well trained ;p As for what you said about prep, it's the worst part isn't it, it takes ages, but worth it I guess.

    Anyways just wanted to say hey and that I'm loving the updates here. I really should check in more often.

    Thanks Nerfenstien, I'm pleased with how the Pug turned out

    The kid in the pic is one of mine. Well trained indeed, all of them are starwars fans (the boys have Cody and Rex costumes and are frequently on missions saving the galaxy). My doughter is only 1.3/4 and looks mega cute in her leia costume.

    I'm doing up my oldests recon at the moment. I bought a scope and I'm going to make a rig that goes above the cocking machanism for the scope to sit on, but still have enough room for your hand to prime the gun (a kind of take on the upper green part of the pulse rifle). I've also given his a new barrel and made a silencer. I'll put up some pics when I've made a bit more headway on it, just hoping the weather holds up.
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    Apr 12, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1167

    decided to tackle another one of these, im trying not to get in the habit of painting these but i figure more practice is good. anyways my kid brother is a huge mass effect fan so i painted this up. Inspired by volpins personal n7.



    hope you guys like it!
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    Apr 17, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1168

    Very nice job IronFett, I like the new part on the stock . What is that, MDF?



    Here's a few crummy pics of my eldest's recon (sorry, I don't have a decent camera)





    A close up of the new switch on the laser sight


    I'm still working out the scope mount for it, but I'm pleased with how it's turned out so far.


    I'm just finishing up a maverick (pics to follow), and then it's on to my first true commission, a stampede (in digital urbane camo). I shall be pulling out all the weathering tricks I've learned from you guys for this one as its for a collector, but I'm a bit nervous to be honest and I'm praying I'm not too out of my depth I hope you don't mind me asking more questions about your weathering techniques as I go guys?
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    Apr 17, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1169

    As promised, here's a couple of pics of the maverick:


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    Apr 18, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1170

    nice guns guys ......hope to see more
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    Apr 18, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1171

    wow, amazing work on all fronts! i've been modding nerf for a while now, but i haven't tackled paint jobs yet. i have one maverick in particular that i want to look like it's been through a war and then found its way into the business end of a wood chipper for a while, so these techniques will really help!
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    Apr 18, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1172

    you got a dremel? just use the cutting wheel to make some gashes.
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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1173

    I used the scope from the element I bought to finish the recon desert sniper with:





    My eldest liked the Element scope better than the one I bought initially, so I came up with this idea for the Pug:





    I think the thing that the scope is attached to was part of some packedging to hold a toy in place (if memory serves me right...). It's not attached yet, but if my kid likes it I'll paint and fix it on this week.

    I'm going to use some of the great techniques I've learned from this thread to distress it a bit. It was also pointed out to me (by it's observant young owner), that I left the logos off. If anyone has a good high rez image of the N7 logo I could use, he would be most greatful.
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    Apr 27, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1174

    Hey guys

    I'm really glad to see some discussions on here concerning the weathering and other tips, I know I've not been able to post much here lately. A lot of this has been do to some work that I've been asked to do, but don't get the opportunity to actually share with everyone. Good stuff to be sure, but not for anyone coming to this thread for new pictures!

    So thank you all for picking up the slack and sharing your awesome work. It's been great to check out stuff that's not my own, hehe.

    Keep up the great work and I'll have some more photos shortly of the things I've been able to work on in my spare time. I hope it will still be up to snuff



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    Apr 27, 2012 - Re: Nerf Gun Props? YES! #1175

    Photos will go here

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