Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09]

barbatus · 04-22-2009, 04:39 PM

As the title says I'm looking for infos for a PotC Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild. Since most threads are dealing with a toy conversion they don't offer the informations required for building the thing from scratch using the real materials. I remember that someone posted pictures he made of a screenused one displayed at Disneyland a while ago, but that thread unfortunately seems to be gone.

I would be really thankful for anything, may it be photos, screenshots, blueprints, measurements, infos about materials or any input about possible differences between the movie versions (was the one used in the first movie identical to the one used in the sequels?), really, any help would be highly appreciated!

Thanks!

Contec · 04-22-2009, 04:53 PM

Here you go.
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...compass01.html

DrMcoy · 04-23-2009, 09:36 AM

The blueprints and photos in above posted link are of the FIRST movie compass.

The second movie compass had slight changes to the inner dial mechanism to make it read more clearly for the actions required of it in the story.

The MR version is based on the SECOND movie version, which I will assume stayed the same in the third movie.

If you google JACK SPARROW COMPASS you should find plenty of pics of the MR version.

Good luck with your project -- if you end up[ making the FIRST version and decide to make extras to sell (or even kit pieces to sell), keep me in mind as I have been looking for a nice replica of the first version. In fact, I would be willing to buy the inner dial pieces and modify an existing toy.

barbatus · 04-27-2009, 07:13 AM

Thanks guys!

I was comparing screenshots and rewatched the PotC Blu-Ray over the weekend and the main differences from the compass used in the first movie compared to the design in the sequels are pretty clear to me now. The graphics on the floating disc are different, the stationary disc is much wider in the first one and the three bars holding it are positioned differently.

Here are the only two photos I found of the PotC 1 compass:

The idea of building a PotC compass came up a couple of days ago when a friend of mine watched the movies with his daughter and started building a compass for her using a piece of dark wood he found:

Note that this isn't aimed to be an accurate reproduction of a PotC compass, he was starting to build this for his daughter and get an idea how a screen accurate version could be done.

We discussed the different options and gladly he agreed with me that the PotC 1 compass looked better (lucky me, since I hate the sequels...), so this is the one we are trying to tackle now. Unfortunately since the compass wasn't used as prominently in the first movie as it was in the sequels, it is hard to get good pictures of it. So any helpful info on the PotC 1 compass is highly appreciated.

If there is someone owning the PotC 1 Blu-Ray and has the ability to take screenshots, I would be thankful for screenshots of the opened compass (00:18:03-00:18:05 and 01:03:42-01:03:44). I didn't find anything yet showing the hinge and how visible it is (or isn't) from the outside.

DrMcoy · 04-27-2009, 11:19 AM

I'll see what i can dig up, but I am 99% sure that the OUTSIDE was pretty much the same on all versions -- it is the inner dial and little trident piece that rests on top of that dial that are the differences -- although the first movie compass looked more "brown" to me than the sequel versions, which seemed to be more "blue."

Any chance you or your friend will make MORE of these for sale?

barbatus · 04-27-2009, 06:12 PM

Taking a look at the scene where Norrington is holding the compass it looks like a very dark brown to me, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrMcoy

Any chance you or your friend will make MORE of these for sale?

While I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of a run our main target for the time being is to build our own compass. There are things we have to figure out at the moment, the one causing us the most headache is how to produce the upper disc in brass with the dial/scale on it.

Funky Jedi · 04-27-2009, 06:18 PM

Here's a pretty good one based off the toy as well. http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...ow+compass+toy

hjsnapepm · 04-29-2009, 12:26 AM

Looking forward to seeing what comes of this. I've been stuck on the inner workings for a while now on mine.

Capn_Jack_Savvy · 04-29-2009, 01:04 AM

It is nice to see these piratical props still being made!! So far it is looking real good!!!!! I love the inlays of the white wood! Very ivory like!

barbatus · 05-27-2009, 10:42 AM

My friend added a few real brass parts

Just to remind you, this is still the compass he is building for his daughter which is not targeted to be 100% accurate. For example the dial will have some slight changes in the final version.

I am still looking for accurate dimensions and photos of the PotC 1 compass. Anyone with the ability to make screenshots from the Blu-Ray (see #4 for time codes)?

DrMcoy · 05-27-2009, 11:19 AM

This looks AMAZING!! Please ask your friend if he would build another for me! Or what he would charge for various brass parts...very nice -- thanks for posting pics.

DrMcoy · 05-27-2009, 06:48 PM

pics of my MR compass:

DrMcoy · 05-27-2009, 06:51 PM

a few more...

DrMcoy · 05-27-2009, 06:58 PM

Here is a site that sells drawer/ring pulls that look a lot like the screen-used ring:

I bought rp-3 in antique finish -- this is a one-inch diameter ring.

http://www.horton-brasses.com/produc.../ringpulls/280

And here is article I wrote on converting the Disney toy into something that looks a little closer to screen used:

http://www.keeptothecode.com/bboard/...hlight=compass

Zombie_61 · 05-28-2009, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrMcoy

Here is a site that sells drawer/ring pulls that look a lot like the screen-used ring:

I bought rp-3 in antique finish -- this is a one-inch diameter ring.

http://www.horton-brasses.com/produc.../ringpulls/280

Thank you for posting this link! I've been looking for a close-enough ring pull for my own conversion, and this will do nicely.

Onkelpsycho · 05-28-2009, 06:18 AM

Ive got a toy convert, too... Its a great tutorial in the KttC. The cheapes prop Ive ever had... just bought a set with compass for $1... Shipping was $15 to gemany, but that doesnt matter.

It was really fun to convert that compass... I think about to order 5 or 6 more and do it again and again...

Thats my convert:

DrMcoy · 05-28-2009, 11:56 AM

Nice work, gents.

For the money, the DISNEY STORE compass toy is by far the cheapest and easiest to convert into something that looks screen-used for costume use or simply to set out on your shelf.

They were in abundant supply last September, but may be harder to come by now.

barbatus · 05-28-2009, 05:57 PM

Thanks a lot for the photos of your MR compass

Mutant-Enemy · 07-19-2009, 07:08 PM

Showing interest here so I can keep posted on the progress!
Thanks for the reply barbatus!
http://nopeek.tripod.com/bitten/id120.html

DrMcoy · 07-19-2009, 08:22 PM

love to see some progress pics!

57townsman · 11-19-2009, 02:10 PM

Barbatus,

Any update on your compass project?

It was looking awesome in your last update.

Steve

sithcundman · 11-20-2009, 05:52 PM

I’m not sure how useful this may be to you, but for anyone looking for a cheap alternative there is a pretty serviceable paper model of Jack Sparrow’s…sorry…Captain Jack Sparrow’s compass here (plus a few other Pirates of the Caribbean artefacts);

http://www.disneyexperience.com/mode...pass_model.php

Capn_Jack_Savvy · 11-20-2009, 07:01 PM

/\ No! No! Not good! Not good at all! With the sea spray and water and all, savvy?

I wonder if that paper version could be "schlacked" to give it some strength?

Zombie_61 · 11-20-2009, 08:05 PM

That paper model could be used as a blueprint/template to make a compass out of more durable goods. I'm far from being an expert, but the rough dimensions seem accurate enough.

fuelish · 11-20-2009, 10:54 PM

http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...compass01.html

That link is a really good primer on figuring out how big something is from its surroundings.

I showed it to my wife and now she wants me to build a compass for her.

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04-22-2009, 04:39 PM	#1
barbatus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] As the title says I'm looking for infos for a PotC Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild. Since most threads are dealing with a toy conversion they don't offer the informations required for building the thing from scratch using the real materials. I remember that someone posted pictures he made of a screenused one displayed at Disneyland a while ago, but that thread unfortunately seems to be gone. I would be really thankful for anything, may it be photos, screenshots, blueprints, measurements, infos about materials or any input about possible differences between the movie versions (was the one used in the first movie identical to the one used in the sequels?), really, any help would be highly appreciated! Thanks! Last edited by barbatus; 05-27-2009 at 10:29 AM.

04-22-2009, 04:53 PM	#2
Contec Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: leave this spoof site and go to www dot the replica prop forum dot com Posts: 2,441 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild Here you go. http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...compass01.html

04-23-2009, 09:36 AM	#3
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild The blueprints and photos in above posted link are of the FIRST movie compass. The second movie compass had slight changes to the inner dial mechanism to make it read more clearly for the actions required of it in the story. The MR version is based on the SECOND movie version, which I will assume stayed the same in the third movie. If you google JACK SPARROW COMPASS you should find plenty of pics of the MR version. Good luck with your project -- if you end up[ making the FIRST version and decide to make extras to sell (or even kit pieces to sell), keep me in mind as I have been looking for a nice replica of the first version. In fact, I would be willing to buy the inner dial pieces and modify an existing toy.

04-27-2009, 11:19 AM	#5
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild I'll see what i can dig up, but I am 99% sure that the OUTSIDE was pretty much the same on all versions -- it is the inner dial and little trident piece that rests on top of that dial that are the differences -- although the first movie compass looked more "brown" to me than the sequel versions, which seemed to be more "blue." Any chance you or your friend will make MORE of these for sale?

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04-27-2009, 07:13 AM	#4
barbatus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild Thanks guys! I was comparing screenshots and rewatched the PotC Blu-Ray over the weekend and the main differences from the compass used in the first movie compared to the design in the sequels are pretty clear to me now. The graphics on the floating disc are different, the stationary disc is much wider in the first one and the three bars holding it are positioned differently. Here are the only two photos I found of the PotC 1 compass: The idea of building a PotC compass came up a couple of days ago when a friend of mine watched the movies with his daughter and started building a compass for her using a piece of dark wood he found: Note that this isn't aimed to be an accurate reproduction of a PotC compass, he was starting to build this for his daughter and get an idea how a screen accurate version could be done. We discussed the different options and gladly he agreed with me that the PotC 1 compass looked better (lucky me, since I hate the sequels...), so this is the one we are trying to tackle now. Unfortunately since the compass wasn't used as prominently in the first movie as it was in the sequels, it is hard to get good pictures of it. So any helpful info on the PotC 1 compass is highly appreciated. If there is someone owning the PotC 1 Blu-Ray and has the ability to take screenshots, I would be thankful for screenshots of the opened compass (00:18:03-00:18:05 and 01:03:42-01:03:44). I didn't find anything yet showing the hinge and how visible it is (or isn't) from the outside.

04-27-2009, 06:18 PM	#7
Funky Jedi Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Tulsa Okie-dokie Posts: 11,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild Here's a pretty good one based off the toy as well. http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...ow+compass+toy

04-29-2009, 12:26 AM	#8
hjsnapepm Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild Looking forward to seeing what comes of this. I've been stuck on the inner workings for a while now on mine.

04-29-2009, 01:04 AM	#9
Capn_Jack_Savvy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tortuga Posts: 2,237 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild It is nice to see these piratical props still being made!! So far it is looking real good!!!!! I love the inlays of the white wood! Very ivory like!

05-27-2009, 10:42 AM	#10
barbatus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] My friend added a few real brass parts Just to remind you, this is still the compass he is building for his daughter which is not targeted to be 100% accurate. For example the dial will have some slight changes in the final version. I am still looking for accurate dimensions and photos of the PotC 1 compass. Anyone with the ability to make screenshots from the Blu-Ray (see #4 for time codes)?

05-27-2009, 11:19 AM	#11
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] This looks AMAZING!! Please ask your friend if he would build another for me! Or what he would charge for various brass parts...very nice -- thanks for posting pics.

05-27-2009, 06:48 PM	#12
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] pics of my MR compass:

05-27-2009, 06:51 PM	#13
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] a few more...

05-27-2009, 06:58 PM	#14
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Here is a site that sells drawer/ring pulls that look a lot like the screen-used ring: I bought rp-3 in antique finish -- this is a one-inch diameter ring. http://www.horton-brasses.com/produc.../ringpulls/280 And here is article I wrote on converting the Disney toy into something that looks a little closer to screen used: http://www.keeptothecode.com/bboard/...hlight=compass

05-28-2009, 06:18 AM	#16
Onkelpsycho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,253 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Ive got a toy convert, too... Its a great tutorial in the KttC. The cheapes prop Ive ever had... just bought a set with compass for $1... Shipping was $15 to gemany, but that doesnt matter. It was really fun to convert that compass... I think about to order 5 or 6 more and do it again and again... Thats my convert:

05-28-2009, 11:56 AM	#17
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Nice work, gents. For the money, the DISNEY STORE compass toy is by far the cheapest and easiest to convert into something that looks screen-used for costume use or simply to set out on your shelf. They were in abundant supply last September, but may be harder to come by now.

05-28-2009, 05:57 PM	#18
barbatus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Thanks a lot for the photos of your MR compass

07-19-2009, 07:08 PM	#19
Mutant-Enemy formerly Once-bitten Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 464 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Showing interest here so I can keep posted on the progress! Thanks for the reply barbatus! http://nopeek.tripod.com/bitten/id120.html

07-19-2009, 08:22 PM	#20
DrMcoy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] love to see some progress pics!

11-19-2009, 02:10 PM	#21
57townsman Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] Barbatus, Any update on your compass project? It was looking awesome in your last update. Steve

11-20-2009, 05:52 PM	#22
sithcundman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] I’m not sure how useful this may be to you, but for anyone looking for a cheap alternative there is a pretty serviceable paper model of Jack Sparrow’s…sorry…Captain Jack Sparrow’s compass here (plus a few other Pirates of the Caribbean artefacts); http://www.disneyexperience.com/mode...pass_model.php

11-20-2009, 07:01 PM	#23
Capn_Jack_Savvy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tortuga Posts: 2,237 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] /\ No! No! Not good! Not good at all! With the sea spray and water and all, savvy? I wonder if that paper version could be "schlacked" to give it some strength?

11-20-2009, 08:05 PM	#24
Zombie_61 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,720 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] That paper model could be used as a blueprint/template to make a compass out of more durable goods. I'm far from being an expert, but the rough dimensions seem accurate enough.

11-20-2009, 10:54 PM	#25
fuelish Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 408 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Infos For A Jack Sparrow Compass Scratchbuild [UPDATE 05/27/09] http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...compass01.html That link is a really good primer on figuring out how big something is from its surroundings. I showed it to my wife and now she wants me to build a compass for her.