Lightsaber calc bubbles

Sumatra · 06-19-2009, 08:24 AM

It's not cool to be posting live auctions.

sskunky · 06-19-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumatra

It's not cool to be posting live auctions.

I second that. I was thinking of bidding on this but I think I might give it a miss now every man and his dog knows about it! I'll wait tlll the next one or so comes up.

My real bubbles incidently are frosted on the flat and clear on the bubbles. The originals are also crystal clear in comparison to the plastic copies.

Sym-Cha · 06-19-2009, 09:21 AM

Hi Jeff and SSKUNKY,

Thanks for your replies, since this is my first post I was not aware that an unspoken RPF rule NOT to post LIVE AUCTIONS was in order.
My sincere apologies. I thought I was doing everyone looking for authentic calculator bubbles a favor.

(I edited my post and removed the link, guys!)

How about the question I posted?

Chaim

Clutch · 06-19-2009, 09:37 AM

You can't go by pictures because of barrel distortion caused by the camera lens and the effects of the reflections on the clear plastic.

Sym-Cha · 06-19-2009, 09:55 AM

Thanks for your reply Clutch.
Yes I know.

That's why I opened all my Exactra's yesterday and took the calculators out of their case and ALL 4 of them were as I explained by use of posted pictures.
Where I drew the thin red line the bubbles are flattened just a bit on both sides. I shall take pictures of my TI Exactra's with their bubbles tomorrow at work using a high res camera (Cambo TC with Leaf Digital Back)

Chaim

James Kenobi 1138 · 06-19-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sym-Cha

Thanks for your replies, since this is my first post I was not aware that an unspoken RPF rule NOT to post LIVE AUCTIONS was in order.

Welcome to the RPF ! Nice to have you here.

The no-live-auction is not an unspoken rule, it's in the CoC.

Clutch · 06-19-2009, 04:02 PM

I'm curious as to why this exactra 20 has a blue background

and this one doesn't:

what does yours look like, Chaim?

sskunky · 06-19-2009, 04:16 PM

Mine is a pale washed out bluey green color.

Clutch · 06-19-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sskunky

Mine is a pale washed out bluey green color.

Was your bubble strip frosted around the edges?

sskunky · 06-19-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch

Was your bubble strip frosted around the edges?

I would say slightly frosted compared to the crystal clarity of the bubbles.

nowhere near as frosted as the pic above

sycor · 06-19-2009, 04:44 PM

Does board color have anything to do with accuracy? I know very little about the bubble strips.

James Kenobi 1138 · 06-19-2009, 05:12 PM

One of mine has a red circuit board. I don't remember about the other one.

Clutch · 06-19-2009, 08:26 PM

There's some pics of vader's saber that look like the blue circuit board is underneath the strip. Lonepigeon may be able to shed some light on this.

dcarty · 06-19-2009, 08:51 PM

Interesting, I wonder if the color issue could just be attributed to color correction, or a lack thereof. Here's a pic of my Exactra 20 that I made with our scanner:

Here's the exact same Exactra taken with my digital camera:

The one from the scanner looks very blue the other a much truer green.

Clutch · 06-20-2009, 10:25 AM

It camera also adds bubblestrips.

dcarty · 06-20-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by clutch

It camera also adds bubblestrips.

That, or the scanner takes them away

Sym-Cha · 06-20-2009, 11:18 AM

Hi everyone,

I spend several hours in the studio today and I hope I can upload my shots of my Exactra 19 and TI-2000 (Made in Italy). Okay that works!
Don't know yet how to upload them here Full Size?

However I could not resist withholding my hard work from you any longer.

Enjoy ...

See what I mean with not exactly round, guys

Chaim

Have a good weekend

James Kenobi 1138 · 06-20-2009, 12:25 PM

The bubbles are not perfect circles, they overlap eachother except the ones on the ends.

Parks old version was clear circle bubble 'stickers' that attach to a metal plate. His newer ones are inaccutate in bubble size, shape, and it's a continuous stream of bubbles cut-off at seven.

Even MR got is wrong. The Luke and Obi sabers are great, but on the Vader they should be cut between bubble 6 and 7 to fit the clamp, not equally spaced with only 6 bubbles.

Blast-tech has the closest in size/shape/accuracy, but even his are lacking compared to a real bubble strip.

Here's one of my real bubble strips in action.

Clutch · 06-20-2009, 01:34 PM

Nice pics. I want a TI-2000!

Sym-Cha · 06-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Thanks James and Clutch,

Sofar all of you who posted pictures here with real calculator bubbles have confirmed what I suspected. Since this is about the activator switch of the lightsaber I wanted to demonstrate by means of light

that probably in the casting process of the bubbles it was not necessary to make them completely half-spherical for their purpose in the Exactra.
If you look closely at these close-ups you can see this clearly. See where I added the red arrows. This is on both sides of the bubbles.

All I want to know : Is there any of you who has a bubbles strip which doesn't have the edges shaved of a bit.
If not ... then I would like to conclude that this is the way those bubbles were manufactured.

Last question just out of curiosity : If I could get someone to remake/cast those exact calculator bubbles as used in the TI Exactra 19 and TI 2000 by using one of my originals ... how many of you, who can't afford or get their hands on a real vintage calculator from the bay, would be interested?

Of course you would have to modify them yourselves as shown at the beginning of this thread by Clutch!

Chaim

Sith_Lord_Hritz · 06-20-2009, 02:43 PM

if they come out good i would like 1 or 2

Abaris · 06-20-2009, 02:52 PM

If they are perfect, and I can't say which one is real, then I'm in

Sumatra · 06-20-2009, 10:53 PM

I would be in for at least a couple. It would be best if they were unmodified.

James Kenobi 1138 · 06-20-2009, 11:33 PM

There is something in the works right now, I don't want to say too much but hopefully something soon for those wanting better, more accurate bubble strips. I'll say more as things progress.

lonepigeon · 06-20-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutch

There's some pics of vader's saber that look like the blue circuit board is underneath the strip. Lonepigeon may be able to shed some light on this.

The Vader ESB/ROTJ Hero saber still has the circuit board intact under the bubble strip. Not sure about the others.

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06-19-2009, 08:24 AM	#26
Sumatra Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 3,560 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles It's not cool to be posting live auctions.

06-19-2009, 09:21 AM	#28
Sym-Cha Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 666 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Hi Jeff and SSKUNKY, Thanks for your replies, since this is my first post I was not aware that an unspoken RPF rule NOT to post LIVE AUCTIONS was in order. My sincere apologies. I thought I was doing everyone looking for authentic calculator bubbles a favor. (I edited my post and removed the link, guys!) How about the question I posted? Chaim Last edited by Sym-Cha; 06-19-2009 at 09:59 AM.

06-19-2009, 09:37 AM	#29
Clutch Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Basement Posts: 5,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles You can't go by pictures because of barrel distortion caused by the camera lens and the effects of the reflections on the clear plastic.

06-19-2009, 09:55 AM	#30
Sym-Cha Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 666 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Thanks for your reply Clutch. Yes I know. That's why I opened all my Exactra's yesterday and took the calculators out of their case and ALL 4 of them were as I explained by use of posted pictures. Where I drew the thin red line the bubbles are flattened just a bit on both sides. I shall take pictures of my TI Exactra's with their bubbles tomorrow at work using a high res camera (Cambo TC with Leaf Digital Back) Chaim Last edited by Sym-Cha; 06-19-2009 at 03:03 PM.

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06-19-2009, 04:02 PM	#32
Clutch Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Basement Posts: 5,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles I'm curious as to why this exactra 20 has a blue background and this one doesn't: what does yours look like, Chaim?

06-19-2009, 04:16 PM	#33
sskunky Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LAND Posts: 962 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Mine is a pale washed out bluey green color.

06-19-2009, 04:44 PM	#36
sycor Soulless Ginger Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Does board color have anything to do with accuracy? I know very little about the bubble strips.

06-19-2009, 05:12 PM	#37
James Kenobi 1138 this space left blank Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 5,312 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles One of mine has a red circuit board. I don't remember about the other one.

06-19-2009, 08:26 PM	#38
Clutch Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Basement Posts: 5,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles There's some pics of vader's saber that look like the blue circuit board is underneath the strip. Lonepigeon may be able to shed some light on this.

06-19-2009, 08:51 PM	#39
dcarty Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Spgs, Colorado Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Interesting, I wonder if the color issue could just be attributed to color correction, or a lack thereof. Here's a pic of my Exactra 20 that I made with our scanner: Here's the exact same Exactra taken with my digital camera: The one from the scanner looks very blue the other a much truer green. Last edited by dcarty; 06-19-2009 at 08:54 PM.

06-20-2009, 10:25 AM	#40
Clutch Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Basement Posts: 5,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles It camera also adds bubblestrips.

06-20-2009, 11:18 AM	#42
Sym-Cha Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 666 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Hi everyone, I spend several hours in the studio today and I hope I can upload my shots of my Exactra 19 and TI-2000 (Made in Italy). Okay that works! Don't know yet how to upload them here Full Size? However I could not resist withholding my hard work from you any longer. Enjoy ... See what I mean with not exactly round, guys Chaim Have a good weekend Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Sym-Cha; 06-20-2009 at 02:30 PM.

06-20-2009, 12:25 PM	#43
James Kenobi 1138 this space left blank Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 5,312 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles The bubbles are not perfect circles, they overlap eachother except the ones on the ends. Parks old version was clear circle bubble 'stickers' that attach to a metal plate. His newer ones are inaccutate in bubble size, shape, and it's a continuous stream of bubbles cut-off at seven. Even MR got is wrong. The Luke and Obi sabers are great, but on the Vader they should be cut between bubble 6 and 7 to fit the clamp, not equally spaced with only 6 bubbles. Blast-tech has the closest in size/shape/accuracy, but even his are lacking compared to a real bubble strip. Here's one of my real bubble strips in action.

06-20-2009, 01:34 PM	#44
Clutch Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Basement Posts: 5,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Nice pics. I want a TI-2000!

06-20-2009, 02:10 PM	#45
Sym-Cha Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Groningen, Netherlands Posts: 666 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles Thanks James and Clutch, Sofar all of you who posted pictures here with real calculator bubbles have confirmed what I suspected. Since this is about the activator switch of the lightsaber I wanted to demonstrate by means of light that probably in the casting process of the bubbles it was not necessary to make them completely half-spherical for their purpose in the Exactra. If you look closely at these close-ups you can see this clearly. See where I added the red arrows. This is on both sides of the bubbles. All I want to know : Is there any of you who has a bubbles strip which doesn't have the edges shaved of a bit. If not ... then I would like to conclude that this is the way those bubbles were manufactured. Last question just out of curiosity : If I could get someone to remake/cast those exact calculator bubbles as used in the TI Exactra 19 and TI 2000 by using one of my originals ... how many of you, who can't afford or get their hands on a real vintage calculator from the bay, would be interested? Of course you would have to modify them yourselves as shown at the beginning of this thread by Clutch! Chaim Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Sym-Cha; 06-21-2009 at 12:33 PM.

06-20-2009, 02:43 PM	#46
Sith_Lord_Hritz Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles if they come out good i would like 1 or 2

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Abaris formerly KaanE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 664 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles If they are perfect, and I can't say which one is real, then I'm in

06-20-2009, 10:53 PM	#48
Sumatra Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 3,560 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles I would be in for at least a couple. It would be best if they were unmodified.

06-20-2009, 11:33 PM	#49
James Kenobi 1138 this space left blank Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 5,312 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lightsaber calc bubbles There is something in the works right now, I don't want to say too much but hopefully something soon for those wanting better, more accurate bubble strips. I'll say more as things progress.

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