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  1. kalkamel's Avatar
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    Sep 2, 2009, 3:40 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #26

    Damn... I've been printing out Zamunda bills (thanks, Jedifyfe!) and giving them out to friends as a prank!
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    Sep 2, 2009, 3:55 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #27

    I wonder that the united states is very strict in these cases. Here in Germany its legal to print Euro, but its illegal to pass that counterfeit money.

    But the euro got lots of security seals, hologram stickers, silver stripes ans this ****. So even if you print it out, no-one will bother.

    But I must say that the united states have very easy-to-prin bank notes...

    I printed some money for my shawshank prop, for national treasure and want to print some bills for different wallets. so I think its legal to print notes from other countries here in Germany...

    Even you notes are available on wikipedia to download it and print it out in high res...
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    Sep 2, 2009, 4:39 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #28

    Photoshop has a Counterfeit Deterrence System to prevent you from scanning money.

    http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cds.html

    If I remember correctly, you need to go back to about Photoshop 7 before you can scan bills.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 6:31 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #29

    I think it was briefly mentioned earlier in this thread, but here is an interesting article on printer tracking dots.

    http://www.eff.org/issues/printers

    Ciao.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 6:33 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #30

    Sumatra said: View Post
    Photoshop has a Counterfeit Deterrence System to prevent you from scanning money.

    http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cds.html

    If I remember correctly, you need to go back to about Photoshop 7 before you can scan bills.


    Not nessesarily. I scanned a $20 Bill and it warned me about the counterfeitting laws, but I was still able to use it in a production run. I used CS3
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    Sep 2, 2009, 7:25 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #31

    Its a little bit scary that my scanner/Pc knows what I scan...
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    Sep 2, 2009, 8:03 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #32

    What error comes up?

    "PoPoCallError" ?
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    Sep 2, 2009, 8:21 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #33

    Edited because of good advice and not wanting to get into unintentional trouble.
    Last edited by NakedMoleRat; Sep 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 8:34 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #34

    Unless you are joking, that is passing a counterfeit bill and very much illegal.

    NakedMoleRat said: View Post
    Although, since the $10.00 was the easiest to print, I keep a few in the car and hand them to bums when they ask if I have some 'extra' money.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 9:01 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #35

    Dudes, NEVER NEVER put into print what you doing if it is risky.

    Consider: What would happen if a Secret Service was to read all of this thread???

    Rich
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    Sep 2, 2009, 9:06 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #36

    nm. cannot see pictures so comment will be held for now.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 9:43 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #37

    About 12 years ago I had to make about a thousand $100 bills for a student film. They were double-sided and printed on some heavy stock we found at Staples. They were obvious fakes, but looked real enough for our purposes.

    We used them to light the bonfire at the wrap party. I think a few were kept as souvenirs, but that usually happens on a film shoot. People want to keep a part of it with them.

    As long as it's understood that the intended purpose isn't passing fake currency, I think you're safe - at least as safe as anyone else who frequents this forum.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 9:43 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #38

    My understanding on this is that you can make a fake print as long as it is not identifiable as a real / imitation bill. That is why fake monies will have such a mark on it, ie copy/play money, sizing, etc or be one sided.
    There are people that make their own artistic money bills in exchange for product. That is legal as long as you are not passing it off as legal tender of the United States.
    There was a PBS special on this exact issue with people making their own art pieces an using it like money. There is a very fine line which law enforcement looks at. The biggest issue is intent to defraud or imitate for illegal purposes the passing of fake legal tender. The best answer is make sure it is absolutely identifiable as non legal tender bills.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 9:59 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #39

    Thanks for all the input guys. I will change it enough to the level that I feel safe about it. And, just for the record, I am not planning on scanning any bills - there are plenty of bill images already on the net that save the trouble
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    Sep 2, 2009, 10:31 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #40

    From everything I have heard from my family owning a printing company and being in that industry for over 20 years, this is highly illegal and can land you in prison easier than you might think. They don't really play with this sort of thing or see the humor in it. I would take the pictures down and delete the post as soon as possible NMR. Really this whole thread should be canned. No disrespect at all to the author, as I understand what your intent is, but this is a subject best not discussed on the internet.

    Chris
    Last edited by nightrider; Sep 3, 2009 at 12:04 AM.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 11:11 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #41

    I say go for it....What's life without a little risk?
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    Sep 2, 2009, 11:17 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #42

    But why the double standard, our current Govt. is printing money that is worthless on a daily basis!!! Why do they get to make fake cash and we can't??? LOL.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 12:18 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #43

    It's a conspiracy man!!!!
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    Sep 2, 2009, 12:32 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #44

    Here's my fake money


    The 5 is a Movie prop bill of unkown origin
    the Million is a flier handed out by a church . It has words written around the border on the back.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 12:42 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #45

    Having worked with the Secret Service years ago I can tell you that they take the topic VERY seriously.

    Reproducing U.S. currency in any form requires written authorization from the U.S. Treasury Dept.

    The main difference in what you have done (and shown) and the 'motion picture prop sample' is that the MPPS version does not say anywhere on it "United States" etc. It merely represents a printed currency. The prop money could be printed by the boat load and they could do with it as they please without the Treasury Dept approval.

    You run into trouble when you reproduce any part or element of the actual U.S. currency via mechanical means. So you can draw or paint any of those parts (or in whole) one at a time and sell them as art but you may not copy an original bill at all for any purpose without permission.

    When you see the dollar bills at Christmas time with Santa's face in the center, those are approved by the Treasury and were printed by them.

    Anything else with official stuff on it is a no no.

    Hope that clears things up.

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    Sep 2, 2009, 7:31 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #46

    Chairmanham said: View Post
    Unless you are joking, that is passing a counterfeit bill and very much illegal.
    Of course I was just kidding. I would never GIVE a prop away!
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    Sep 2, 2009, 7:36 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #47

    Nothing like telling a guy to delete his post ASAP....But quoting him each time.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 7:47 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #48

    A while ago, I came across some papercraft models of "stacks of money", to which they had $100 US dollars in a stack, and a couple of other countries higher denominations. I didn't download them, but i thought about how useful it would be for a student film (since I'm attending Full Sail University, it would make sense), but I never would download and print it out unless I really needed it for a student work (even then, I probably wouldn't).

    It'd be easier to just scratch-design currency and not base it only any current currency note in the U.S. or European country. Just my opinion.
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    Sep 2, 2009, 10:40 PM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #49

    Jedifyfe said: View Post
    Don't send him over to my house

    Okay jedifyfe, when are you going to share?
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    Sep 3, 2009, 12:15 AM - Re: Is it illegal to print one sided money? #50

    Jodo said: View Post
    Nothing like telling a guy to delete his post ASAP....But quoting him each time.

    Since NMR choose to edit his post I have edited mine as well. Anyone else who has quoted him should do the same. I would remove the whole thread if it were up to me.

    Chris
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