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  1. RPF Premium Member phase pistol's Avatar
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    Sep 2, 2006, 7:17 PM - #1

    Oh yeah, there was a Star Trek display at Worldcon as well. :P

    [edit: rather than start separate threads, I have renamed this thread and intend to update it with other photos I took of Jein's collection at Worldcon]

    Presenting the Spock Controller from "Spock's Brain" (the prop is a redress of one of the original Communicators seen in the pilot episodes "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before"):


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    Sep 2, 2006, 7:26 PM - #2

    Amazing pics, Karl. Very impressive.
    It's amazing how crude those old TOS props could be when you get close...
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    Sep 2, 2006, 8:19 PM - #3

    Amazing mate, thank you for sharing those pics.

    Did they let you hold it?
    What kind of material did they use to make it?

    Thx again.

    Cya

    Gus
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    Sep 2, 2006, 9:00 PM - #4

    Awesome bud.. You said a Trek display?? What else did they have?

    Jhusel
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    Sep 2, 2006, 9:03 PM - #5

    My interest in this must be waning.

    I was at WorldCon for five days, helped set-up the Trek display and didn't take a single picture.

    What is wrong with me?

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    Sep 2, 2006, 9:04 PM - #6

    That's my hand in the photos. :P

    I must thank Greg Jein, Max Cervantes and Liane Dienhart, who ran the humongous Star Trek exhibit at Worldcon, and all of whom had infinite patience with me and my camera (and my fanboy questions. )

    I was allowed to take many closeup reference shots of many of the costumes and props... I will post additional "features" on various items as I get my pix organized. (as you can imagine, the Blade Runner thing has kind of dominated my time lately...)

    Here are a few overall shots of just some of what was on display...











    As to the construction of the Cage Comm, it appears to be made just like our replicas: electronics components were submerged in clear resin. (our replicas have fewer bubbles than the real thing does :P )

    These props were used in the pilot episodes of Star Trek and then never seen again...




    ...that is, until the Third Season episode "Spock's Brain", when a Cage Communicator shows up as McCoy's gadget for remote-controlling the brainless body of Spock.



    The prop gets another repaint and shows up AGAIN in the second-to-last episode of TOS, "That Which Survives", as a calculator that Spock uses to figure out how long the Enterprise has before it blows up (the warp engines are out of control and the ship will explode unless Scotty can stop it)...



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    <div class='quotetop'>(micdavis @ Sep 2 2006, 09:03 PM) [snapback]1312024[/snapback]</div>
    My interest in this must be waning.

    I was at WorldCon for five days, helped set-up the Trek display and didn't take a single picture.

    What is wrong with me?
    [/b]
    You must be one of those poor individuals who are afflicted with, what they like to call, "a life".

    - k
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    Sep 2, 2006, 10:04 PM - #7

    Wow.

    The BR Blaster pics were something else (thank you), but this has me on the edge of my seat.

    Classic Trek is still my #1 interest. I'll be waiting anxiously to see what you have. Looks good so far.

    Arthur
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    Sep 2, 2006, 10:43 PM - #8

    Those pics are unbelievable. I've never seen better reference for the Cage comm (and its varied incarnations.

    GREAT JOB
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    Sep 2, 2006, 11:20 PM - #9

    WOW K, those are incredible pics. I can't wait to see the others... THIS is the stuff I love, the obscure TOS props....

    Jhusel
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    Sep 3, 2006, 12:44 AM - #10

    Amazing pix. Thanks and wow.
    Can't help but notice how much Wah loved that crosshatch pattern- a recurring motif.
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    Sep 3, 2006, 1:25 AM - #11

    McCoy's medical pouch is what gets me--I always thought it was so cool, and never thought much about it and suddenly there it is plain as day still in existence almost 40 years after I first saw it. Awesome awesome stuff.
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    Sep 3, 2006, 1:34 AM - #12

    McCoy's medical kit (the long pouch with full-length flap) is the larger version that was used in the second and third seasons; it has room for test tubes, scanners, and other equipment.



    The pouch in Jein's collection seems to lack the pockets for holding test tubes in the flap.



    Jein's hypospray syringe seems to be similar to the the first-season type, which had a sleeve that slid back and forth rather than a plunger. This syringe can be seen in early episodes like "Miri".



    Most folks make replicas of the smaller pouch which only holds the hypospray syringe, spinny scanner and maybe a couple vials of Kool-aid.

    Here's a typical medikit replica from my own collection (made by CaptJTK I believe)



    McCoy's purse-like medical bag was only seen in the first season; in the display it's beneath the pouch.






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    Sep 3, 2006, 2:15 AM - #13

    To be honest however, Jein did display some likely fakes (or to be diplomatic, "replicas") in his display. For example, this black and white phaser






    ...and this geological tricorder...



    ... are almost certainly by Mark English.

    This Klingon communicator, although displayed in the case with "authentic" TOS props



    ...was, I'm told, made for "New Voyages".

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    Sep 3, 2006, 6:12 AM - #14

    Fantastic pics.

    The Klingon/Romulan/every alien communicator has always been one
    of those props that I loved, but never thought to find good enough pictures of to
    recreate for my collection. Now I can give it a shot thanks to you, Greg Jein,
    Max Cervantes and Liane Dienhart.

    Thanks to all of you.
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    Sep 3, 2006, 12:30 PM - #15

    <div class='quotetop'>(phase pistol @ Sep 2 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]1311981[/snapback]</div>
    Oh yeah, there was a Star Trek display at Worldcon as well. :P
    [/b]
    Wtf?.

    I can not believe you sat on this for a week and posted first about that Bladerunner crap. :P

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    Sep 3, 2006, 12:55 PM - #16

    If you keep this up I am going to need another hard drive to store all these pics. :P
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    Sep 3, 2006, 2:49 PM - #17

    wow Karl....I'm just in awe of your knowledge and attention to detail for Trek props...another thoroughly enjoyable thread
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    Sep 3, 2006, 3:21 PM - #18

    <div class='quotetop'>(apollo @ Sep 3 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]1312275[/snapback]</div>
    I can not believe you sat on this for a week and posted first about that Bladerunner crap. :P
    [/b]



    Well maybe I can make it up to you with more pix.

    The Klingon Communicator as you all know (and yes this will be on the test), was first introduced as an "Eminiar 7" communicator in "Taste of Armageddon"



    Kor whips it out (ahem) briefly at the end of "Errand of Mercy"...



    And a plot point revolves around this communicator in "Elaan of Troyius", where a Klingon spy aboard the Enterprise uses one to report back to his superiors



    A clear view of this prop has never been seen publicly, AFAIK.



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    Sep 3, 2006, 4:26 PM - #19

    OK, pointless prop-unrelated post: Not the same Karl Tate who drew the "Real Life" comic strip in college, right?
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    Sep 3, 2006, 4:29 PM - #20

    [on second thought]

    "who wants to know"

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    Sep 3, 2006, 6:19 PM - #21

    <div class='quotetop'>(phase pistol @ Sep 3 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]1312359[/snapback]</div>
    Well maybe I can make it up to you with more pix.
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    All is forgiven.
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    Sep 3, 2006, 7:52 PM - #22

    Thnaks for pics of Klingon Comm and the other TOS stuff.

    Curious -- I've seen the Klingon Comm posted on ebay recently and it features a different grid, grid attachment detail and different inside controls...presumably taken from blueprints that were drawn using an original TOS prop as a reference. Does ANYBODY know any details on this piece? The Klingon comms posted on ebay do not seem to have the proper grid/hinge mechanism, at least not one that matches the screen grabs of the catual prop that are posted in this thread...which obviously leads me to wonder if anybody truly offers a Klingon comm that matches what was actually used in the series.

    This is such an obscure piece that my guess is there is never going to be any light shed on this particular prop, but if anyone has any info, would love to heoar it.

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    Sep 3, 2006, 10:26 PM - #23

    I was asked for some overall shots of the Trek display.... basically there were three display cases, and behind that a forest of mannequins.

    The rightmost case held TOS artifacts... the middle case had a lot of replica-TOS stuff (I recognized "Trials and Tribbleations" style TOS re-creations, even a Master Replicas TOS tricorder.). The rest of the middle case held TNG, DS9 and Voyager props, some built by Max Cervantes.

    The lefttmost case held a replica Vulcan Lute (the "playable" one I believe), a fight Bat-leth, and some other items.








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    Sep 3, 2006, 11:28 PM - #24

    B&W












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    Sep 3, 2006, 11:35 PM - #25

    Stellar, Karl.

    Thanks for bringing these glorious shots to the RPF.

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