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Old 12-08-2011, 02:47 PM   #126
 
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This is not true. CT has posted lies on his blog before to discredit people he saw as his competition. He posted that I was working with Russell Brown to sell fan made Tennant sonics in an attempt to get Russ in trouble with MFX by making them think that he was selling their products through the back door to me. This was entirely untrue. There was no basis for CT to make this statement and its purpose was to discredit my sonic design, to implicate Russ in selling unlicensed Tennant sonics, and to raise my name as a point of interest for the BBC in case anyone was handing out CODs.
That's a pretty serious allegation. Do you have a link to where he said this?
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if it wasn't blatantly copied from CT's work, he wouldn't have changed the design.
There have been no pieces made or sold and no final design locked in. So if the design has been changed from the alleged recast concerns this topic is moot isn't it?

For Christ sakes:
  1. Take another look at the end cap from the actual prop and make it accurate.
  2. Take another look at the slider plate from the actual prop and make it accurate.
  3. If the size of something does not match the real one make it accurate.

Make your kit based on the corrected design and problem solved for everyone right .

As far as how stuff screws together, threading a tube one way or another just does not constitute recasting plain and simple (I believe both of the individuals making the Sonics are engineers of some kind, how to make things screw together was possibly in a class somewhere). Let's wait until he posts the final design and then grab the fire and pitchforks.
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I'm actually really beginning to dislike you. Going on the offensive just because I disagree instead of answering your critics. Very mature. You deserve every insult he throws at you.
Bring it on then, You have already decided that fate, sometime back due to the fact that I’m building a Custom Tennant Sonic.

Your most likely an Ok guy outside this forum, but that’s’ not what I’m seeing here, you are been difficult an will only except one persons sick blog.

I mean look at how he communicates, no one with some intelligence would talk like that, seriously would you have him over for tea to meet your family, and you have decided no matter what to be a part of his Cyber bullying, all for what.

This project will still go ahead no matter how much him and his cyber bullies gang attack me, the more you attack me the more determined I will be, you obviously don’t know me to know that.
....however you will...

I ask you, what will you hope to get from him in return, what will any of you that follow that sick individual, hope to get.

It has been explained to you over and over again by Anikin but you just seem not to except it.

The thing is why should I care whether you like me or not, you stated it with your negativity posts and your crap that has been fed to you by Bull Dog.

When you start been positive and helpful and supportive to the members of this forum and there builds, until then, why should I care.

Oh I do like you, I think we could be best Sonic buddies.

I was not joking about my Nutty & Nice list

Which side of the list are you on.

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Old 12-08-2011, 03:23 PM   #129
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There have been no pieces made or sold and no final design locked in. So if the design has been changed from the alleged recast concerns this topic is moot isn't it?

For Christ sakes:
  1. Take another look at the end cap from the actual prop and make it accurate.
  2. Take another look at the slider plate from the actual prop and make it accurate.
  3. If the size of something does not match the real one make it accurate.

Make your kit based on the corrected design and problem solved for everyone right .

As far as how stuff screws together, threading a tube one way or another just does not constitute recasting plain and simple (I believe both of the individuals making the Sonics are engineers of some kind, how to make things screw together was possibly in a class somewhere). Let's wait until he posts the final design and then grab the fire and pitchforks.
Your so right phez thanks for you constructive and correct observation,
That is something that the cult of CT does not have.

They have been bashing there negative comments on old and out of date drawings that I posted sometime back.

What I’m currently manufacturing is not what was posted in the beginning.

But they still go on about old out dated irrelevant information, why do they persist on commenting on what is not been manufactured by me.
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There is no prop made yet. Its like arresting someone before the crime, unless you're being charged with "attempted recasting with intention to sell" (i know bad joke just trying to lighten the mood)
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That's a pretty serious allegation. Do you have a link to where he said this?
It's on his blog right now. Search for my name.
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There is no prop made yet. Its like arresting someone before the crime, unless you're being charged with "attempted recasting with intention to sell" (i know bad joke just trying to lighten the mood)
You jokester, Yeah we could do with some Sonic jokes, have any,
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There is no prop made yet. Its like arresting someone before the crime,
See also; the film Minority Report.
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You jokester, Yeah we could do with some Sonic jokes, have any,
"Who looks at a screwdriver and thinks 'gee, this could be more...sonic?'" - Jack Harkness.
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Any good props from that? Or would that get you arrested last year?

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hahahahahahahahahaha I tried coming up with a joke that involved a sonic not working on wood and Jack harkness but could figure one out.
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hahahahahahahahahaha I tried coming up with a joke that involved a sonic not working on wood and Jack harkness but could figure one out.
From stories I've heard about the actor, he'd just use "little Jack" to open the wooden door (or whatever).
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Re: Custom Tennant Sonic Build

Hey Bull Dog got some more images for your blog of my custon sonic design that I’m working on, for you to go Nuts over.

Do you like how my 12mm acrylic rod inserts into the threaded ball? Nice and strong. "good Aussie design that"

Now to help you out with some machining dimensions the 12mm Acrylic rod has two (2) machined septs
The first of the two, that’s the smaller one on the end Bull Dog, has a dimension of 7mm Dia x 8mm long the second and the larger step is 10mm Dia x 2.5mm long this allows 9.5 mm to insert into the ball.
Once the two parts are bonded into place this will give a much superior joint than any other.

As the Rassilon1 Custom Tennant Sonic will be offered as a kit build, by having a design as such, this will allow for an easy assembly by the builder.
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How did you drill the center hole in the plastic so clear? Did you polish that somehow after it was drilled?
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do you have more goodies to show us
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Phez, when machining or drilling acrylics, one needs to think about drill point geometry on various materials, and the fact that, acrylics have a very low melting point.

Now I will keep this very simple, Bull Dog can understand it, he then can go and do a decent job on that mess he made of his acrylics shafts, you would think that been a so called “ENGINEER” you would know this, oh well he must of missed that part in getting his Chinaman’s engineering degree, more than likely getting a Chinese lobotomy that day, as that would explain a very grate deal.

So here is what he would have learned, if you had actually attended an engineering university.

To drill acrylics you need to have a drill point angle of 118 Degrease, with a lathe speed of between 100 and 130 and no more, as any faster and you will prejudice to much drill tip friction heat, and it is no longer cutting at the cutting edge, but melting the acrylic. So, slow speed with the correct drill point angle.

And the second an very much 80% to getting a clean and clear drilled hole in acrylic, is the use of an oil with a viscosity of water, this must be constantly added to the drill cutting surface at the same point as you are removing the acrylic sworf from the drill flutes.

Don’t let the drill flutes fill up with acrylic sworf as this will lead to the acrylic sworf getting jammed in the flutes of the drill and will lead to heat & heat will intern melt the acrylic and you will get fine cracks on the drilled hole surface, heat is the enemy in any machining work.


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Yep have plenty more photos of the Rassilon1 custom Tennant sonic kit, to educate bull dog, on how to engineer a Rassilon1 Custom Tennant Sonic.

All the aluminium parts have been sent for hard anodizing, yep that’s rite, and all the aluminium parts will be clear hard anodized, why would I incorporate into my Rassilon1 custom Tennant sonic build kit, clear hard anodized parts.

This is so you the builder or the assembler of the Rassilon1 custom Tennant sonic kit, will have nice clean sonic build kit parts that won’t form Aluminium oxide on the surface due to constant daily use.

This will be covered latter in my Rassilon1 custom Tennant sonic build kit thread.

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So what you're saying is that the angle of the jangle is equally as important as the motion of the lotion?
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Yes very much so, but like anything you must have moderation and control.
You must keep your head, while everyone "eels" is loosing there’s

Aussie slang

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An uncontrolled eel is a dangerous thing. Some of those critters bite.
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Now I will keep this very simple, Bull Dog can understand it, he then can go and do a decent job on that mess he made of his acrylics shafts, you would think that been a so called “ENGINEER” you would know this, oh well he must of missed that part in getting his Chinaman’s engineering degree, more than likely getting a Chinese lobotomy that day, as that would explain a very grate deal.

So here is what he would have learned, if you had actually attended an engineering university.
I guess CT's engineering must be good enough for you to copy his design.
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where do we sign up for a kit...this looks fantastic so far.
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Now I will keep this very simple, Bull Dog can understand it, he then can go and do a decent job on that mess he made of his acrylics shafts, you would think that been a so called “ENGINEER” you would know this, oh well he must of missed that part in getting his Chinaman’s engineering degree, more than likely getting a Chinese lobotomy that day, as that would explain a very grate deal.
Not only is this statement rife with offensive language that is at best culturally insensitive and possibly racist, but it's also totally inaccurate insofar as the info on the Acrylic shafts.
The shafts are not botch jobs, they are intentionally cloudy. They were actually changed from perfectly clear to cloudy in order to be screen accurate.
Here is a photo posted here to the RPF by Neill Gorton, of him holding a screen-used Season 3-4 Sonic Screwdriver. Notice anything about the channel in the acrylic rod?


If anything, he didn't drill his cloudy enough... I can still see the wires in mine!
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lathe speed of between 100 and 130 and no more
Worked perfect, thanks for the info. Mine was coming out looking exactly like the original one in that pic . Unfortunately the Season 1 version (the one I am working on) was clear and not burned like that. I was turning it too fast.
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Why have most of the early original posts by Rassilon been edited in the last three days after the recasting scenario came to light?
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where do we sign up for a kit...this looks fantastic so far.
Well all the parts are being anodized at present, so I would think in about 7 to 10 days. I will let all know about that at the end of this build thread.

Thats right phez, it's all about speed, and plenty of thin oil. WD40 also can be used. I'm glad that I could help you out with your sonic build, as that's what this forum is all about, one member helping out another member with their sonic prop builds.

As mine is a "CUSTOM" Sonic, I have chosen to have the clear Acrylic rod center hole clear.

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Do you need some advice with correcting your manufactures workmanship on the acrylic rod to get that same improved frosted look for your sonic
as you have indicated.

"If anything, he didn't drill his cloudy enough... I can still see the wires in mine!"

Yes, your so right to mention that, and can be an issue that other members may also be having with their screen accurate prop.

To achieve a frosted look on your Custom sonic build or to improve your screen accurate prop or if you are looking for the same effect, do one of two things.

First:
When drilling the Acrylic rod don't use oil or a lubricant, as this will give you a type of frosted look but, you will end up with what looks like rings running in a circular direction opposite to the direction you are drilling.
If this is the effect that you are looking for you need not proceed any further.

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Drill the Acrylic rod as you would if you were looking for that clear acrylic rod look. Once you have completed that part of your build, next use a coarse wet and dry sandpaper.

If you use a to finer wet & dry sand paper it will only take you longer to get that frosted look. I used 100 grid wet and dry, and use a cordless drill with the wet & dry placed in the chuck as you will need to go in a circular motion to get that frosted look.
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