Custom Tennant Sonic Build

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Let's not forget that these images have been edited. But you can see underneath the grey lines what the original work looked like and the prongs are short like CT's. It's just the added overlay of grey lines that make them look longer now.

Again, it's not about CT vs any other maker. The QMx sonic looks fantastic, it's just the ongoing no show that produces the negativity, and again it's only three weeks until teh New Year and we've heard nothing since June.

Rassilon made a kit for the 4th Doc sonic, that was OK, all his own work, no problem. Kudos. But it's clear to anyone who has a CT sonic or two, that the design presented here was blatantly and very clearly his sonic rather than the prop replica, Aztec or otherwise. The very best thing Rassilon could do was to say, "yeah, I copied CT's design based on pictures and dimensions members sent me, but I won't be using them in the finished product". That would have been fine example of a stand up man.

He has already said pretty much the first half of that sentence in a recent thread where he admits no research himself, but using images from members here....

So, he blames us members for sending him the wrong images. Fine, let's move along. It happens. The back peddling and deleting of posts would not have been needed if this was admitted in the first place. Maybe a new thread is needed and this project started from scratch. The conduct, ducking and diving and snarky comments is something people need to weigh up for themselves seperately. As I said, Caveat Emptor.

jedibugs

So, something occurred to me as I was reading through the new posts... I think Rassilon1 may have confirmed the accusations against him. In his condescending post on the nature of threading (you know, the one where he cut and pasted full paragraphs of text from an engineering site and tried to pass them off as his own words), he gave his accuser the following advice.

Now, while quite a bit has been made of the previously-exclusive-to-The-Dragon threaded construction method finding its way into Rassilon's designs, no one ever mentioned thread size. Neither here nor on the Dragon blog. In fact, it was all focused on the emitter (not transmitter, by the way) head and the ball bit below it--which use the larger threading described in the quote above.
In that same post, to illustrate his point, he posted the pic of his bulb end, seen below. Now, I have attached that and a picture of the same part from my Celestial Toystore Sonic Screwdriver. It is the ONLY part of the Sonic that uses the smaller threading. It also has not had a picture posted of it in the course of this argument... So what prompted Rassilon to criticize it? No one mentioned smaller threading, or even threading on that part in general (the shape of the bulb? Yes. Threading? Not at all). More importantly, how did he even KNOW about the smaller threading on that one, unseen piece?
I can only think of a single time I've ever seen a picture of it unscrewed from the body, and that was in my review thread of my CT Sonic, which was clearly labeled as a review of the CELESTIAL TOYSTORE Sonic Screwdriver.
Due to my limited knowledge of all the intricacies of the prop, I was unwilling to say for a fact that Rassilon had copied the designs of The Dragon... But between this, the editing of old posts, the refusal to respond to specific allegations and the plagiarization of the engineering website, I can no longer suspend my disbelief.

You can go ahead and put my on your naughty list (unless you meant for it to be "nutty," then put me on that one, too).



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LeAngeSolitaire

No doubt Rassilon1 or the minority who think he's not a recaster will say that this is just coincidental and logical engineering whatnot. But this section was again unique to the CT wasn't it? the MFX and the prop was push fit and held in with a grub screw. There is no reason to use threads here.

mooneye63

CT isn't or hasn't tried to stop anyone else making a 9/10 Dr Sonic as previously suggested, that is just ridicules, what he has done, & continues to do, is call someone out when they makeup facts, or as in this case take credit for work done by him.

Look back at past threads & links. Neill Gorton was called out for lying about the colour & die cast heads etc, Kenny over his china reference & inaccurate claims, amongst other things, about paint, measurements, the actual prop, & now Rassilon for copywriting measurement & design aspects that are CT's.

As for which site Rassilon was banned, why don't you ask him & see if he answers that question? We now all know Rassilon was asked by Rouge Scout to cease over Romana Sonic, so you can see why people are not convinced in his deflection of answers & photos etc that he hasn't examined CT's work & done the same here.

Hmm, still silence from members re my last post as to why some here now think its OK to want to buy an unlicensed Rassilon rather than from the current license holders? For those with short memories, remember this was the argument venomously leveled at CT when he put product on the market. So, anyone gonna be brave enough & explain the change? I'm interested.

Rassilon

There is really no point in me telling you how I went about making these parts in the CNC, or anything,

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mooneye63

Ah very interesting about the threads there Jedibugs. Very good point indeed!

Rassilon

Yes very.

mooneye63

No there is tell us & others who are interested. This is part of the problem. You don't answer question after you said you'd be happy to do so.

Rassilon

I am doing my best, it's just you have so many.

Jetibugs has asked me some and I have answered them.

mooneye63

Great, lookforward to the rest... Especially the one about post edits.

Rassilon

Oh can I answer them tomorrow as it is getting close to midnight
as well I have been on the CNC all day making more sonic parts.
And play time is over for me, very tiered, can we talk about this latter.
Is that OK


Oh That was one of Jedibugs questions, and I have answered that one.
That one is really chewing you guys up hey.

los lobos 26

Rassilon1 great job so far. I know I am new so I don't know what all this arguments are all about I would just say that each person is entitled to its his or hers own replica project. I admire that you are putting the time and effort to making it more realistic and worth your own time. My question for you is....will you be selling a kit or the final product?

greatwazoo42

Territorial pissings mostly. Someone marked a particular set of props as his territory and has a robust group of supporters to keep anyone else from invading. You know, the old quote of Ghengis Kahn's that they used in the 1982 Conan film: "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you..." etc.

The Catch22 is said person claims his sonic is dead on screen accurate (with a series of hidden tells so he knows if he's being copied which would make it inaccurate by deviation). By making that assertion anyone that tries to make a decent one can be accused of copying. If that doesn't work (like trying to do a custom interpretation to avoid that mine in the field) then there are other tactics like you've seen employed here including claims of theft of concept like using threaded parts instead of velcro or whale snot.

In the end it's just a toy based on something we all saw and liked on TV. All the bullying, badgering, posturing and threatening is just narcissistic nonsense. I've been sitting back and hoping that the entire crowd would just kick back and relax but, sadly, there seem to be those that take great pleasure in being hurtful to others instead of just enjoying what they can have or what they can do.

karstva

Its unfortunate but this is true. 3 threads now, all new series sonic related, it seems no one can post anything in regards to this without becoming a target. Well meaning individuals posting with good intent to share something with the prop community are tagged for elimination by a select few of individuals whose agenda I don't quite understand. Lets berate, troll and bash the competitors until they leave? I'm sorry but I thought this was a family forum. At the end of the day, does it really matter that the screw thread XYZ on P axis is sublimated to the WTF??? Nope, not really. Oh wait, I get it you are protecting us from ourselves..ahhh...well thanks but no thanks. Oh what was that you say? The lip of the head of the emitter is .01mm off so its totally inaccurate or wait, its accurate but its copied and you will burn in prop hell for buying it or even showing an interest in it. Well thanks but I'll make my own choices on whom I buy from and my conscience will be clear.

LeAngeSolitaire

Passive aggressive sanctimony aside, it's very interesting to see everyone has avoided answering Mooneye's point. Just why is it ok to support one unlicensed maker and vilify another?


I don't think that's fair either. I'm going to stick my neck out and say that if the OP told the truth from the start or admitted that his build was based on a CT which it blatantly is, all would be fine. Changing the build is going in the right direction but I think an admission and an apology would calm the waters immensely. You sure can buy from whomever you want but it seems that most will buy from the cheapest source conveniently forgetting their principles if it means getting a bargain.

greatwazoo42

Because the question, like most of the ones you guys have been asking is leading to a preconceived conclusion that you want us to reach. Since we don't agree with your assumption that it is correct and you won't entertain any deviation in your opinions we don't bother.

karstva

Wondertwin powers activate, form of *****. The only vilifiying going on is from your crew.

LeAngeSolitaire

I can make my mind own mind up and Don't need to be part of a 'crew'. If others share my opinion good for them. So what's your point?

karstva

Whats your point? I can make up my own mind as well, and don't need to read constant trolling threads.

LeAngeSolitaire

Seems like you just summed up a double bind.

LeAngeSolitaire

No one is forcing you to either.

karstva

So why do you keep commenting? You are free to leave as well, are you that tied to the sonic screw driver that all other things in life drop away?

greatwazoo42

Ah, the cornerstone of most famous Tarantino scenes.

LeAngeSolitaire

I guess I am free to leave but if I have something to say I'll say it. I certainly would not stop commenting just because you told me to. I suppose we could go on all day like this but that would be pointless

karstva

It is pointless, so why do you continue? What is your agenda in regards to this thread exactly? I'm curious.