[FONT=Arial]so I started my captain America shield ... needless to say I am little disappointed in my self . 2 of my star points popped off the shield .. I got jb weld on the star which I tried to clean the best I could. and some jb weld also squeeze out from under the star after I taped it!!
I just laid my first coat of metal cast red and I don't know why but it doesn't see as nice as everyone else's.. any suggestions from anyone will be appreciated
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I'm still learning quite a bit about painting, but I'm curious if you're judging your paint job too quickly. Are you wet sanding at all? Did you do a prime coat first?
did you clean the surface down before spraying ??
From what I understand everyone is just using the dupicolor metal cast red by it self .. Maybe I am judging to quick let's see how it dries I will give it a hourMonster Dave said:
And I am still confused what wet sanding is .. But if it helps i will learn quick lolMonster Dave said:
Wet sanding is exactly what it sounds like. You use wet sanding paper, get it wet, and lightly sand the surface between coats. The water helps to keep the sanding smooth. As far as the paint goes, what is your method? It almost looks a bit like you are spraying too heavy.
Some tips I have picked up along the way:
- Clean the surface well with acetone to remove any trace of oils and residue, and wear gloves to avoid finger prints
- Prop the shield up vertically so you are spraying forward instead of down
- Put the cans in a bucket of warm water for 15-20 minutes before you start to bring the paint temp up to room temp
- Shake the crap out of them! You want to be sure the paint is thoroughly mixed, and you want to shake the can after every couple minutes of use
- Light, even coats--you don't need full coverage on the first coat! You will get a more even look with several light coats than you will with one or two heavy coats
- Use continuous motion to avoid overspray in one area
- Begin your spray outside of the shield and continue to spray beyond the shield
- Let the paint cure 10-15 minutes between coats, but not much more. You want a lightly tacky surface (but don't touch!)
- When you finish the red (or blue, whichever you do first) let the paint cure for a minimum of 24-48 hours before taping off and doing the next color
Kevin Gossett said:
i did most of that expect
-spraying vertically
- puting the cans in warm water
..and wet sand
ok so here are the dry pics.. i am assuming acetone will strip the paint off if i need to try again..
I would strip it and try it again, to be honest. Those "sputter" spots are from overspraying and a dirty/clogged nozzle. Make sure to clean the nozzle before the next round, and keep it light. This will take some patience!
I did use the whole canKevin Gossett said:
.. So use the acetone to strip it and after the first coat you still be able to see the silver and build layers from there
I haven't painted mine yet, but if you used the whole can, it seems to me like you used too much. Definitely lighter coats, the first coat probably will be fairly faint.Braytak said:
I did use the whole can
Yeah, that tends to happen when the spray can is low. In my experience, if you're doing it right, you should not need to use anywhere near the whole can on the whole shield. The lazy susan idea fixes this as it allows you to only spray the red stripes as opposed to having to spray over the whole shield. One can of red usually lasts me for two shields (assuming I only do each one once).Braytak said:
I did use the whole can
I'd strip it and buy a new can of the red. That will ensure that there are no clogs in the nozzle and that the spray is strong and even.
With the lazy Susan idea I'd basically just spray down in one spot an spin the shield right ?spiderfan11 said:
ok so after wet sanding here is what i got ... i didnt do the middle ring yet.,is it saveble ? or strip it
It's looking better to me, more even on the color.
So ... after reading everyones comments I think the advice is solid .... that said ... I'd strip it. I redid each of my shields at least twice. The pebbly finish is from putting too many heavy coats on too close together. The advice above is great. Really light first 2 coats, then more of a medium coat for 2-3.
The things I see in your finish that you are not going to get rid of with wetsanding is the blotches from the clogged spray tip. Because this paint is transparent, you'll even see them under a good clearcoat.
This paintjob was practice. Strip it. You'll do better next time. That's one of the really nice things about these shield projects ... it's only paint.
Good luck,
Valor
I'd say strip and start again. These particular paints don't do well with wet sanding. It takes away the inherent "anodized" look of the finish product and makes the paint more opaque.
Also, when you strip it with acetone, you'll be able to use the same acetone to clean up the jb weld excess around the star. Then you can start clean.
Btw, I recommend not using metalcast or dupicolor, but try testors candy clear red and transparent blue. You can get them at a hobby shop or online. MUCH better and easier to use. And definitely follow the tips that have been stated here.. all except the wet sanding.
well this is what i got so far .. but i guess i will take all you guys advice and and strip it .... as far as the paint i already bought the metal cast..i have two more shields coming so i am going to have lots of practice.. i planed to do a battle damage shield so i guess this one will be it. the colors are a little better blended..
I know striping it may sound like a really difficult thing to do, but it's really not. Just a can of acetone and a rage. It's super simple. Also, make sure to have a metal tray or large bucket to catch the left over acetone in. I got a galvanize lawn bucket/basket from home depot for 15$.. it's about 25" diameter, so it works perfect. So strip it and start over, the red there looks way too dark. You'll be more happy with the outcome.
As long as it comes out nice I will do what I have to I was just hoping after sanding it I can put one more coat on and it would look good.. I will strip it tomorrow . Is there a paint tutorial on the shields some where here ?
I don't believe there is. I have a new blank coming in soon, perhaps I will try to make a tutorial. Might be a couple weeks though :/Braytak said:
thanks keep me updated i got 2 more comingspiderfan11 said:
You are getting some good advice in all the previous comments up here. I just wanted to chime in a bit on the stripping. Its going to take alot of time and patience to get that much paint off. I ended up getting an aircraft grade paint stripper that you leave on for a long period of time before you wipe off. Don't get discouraged, and keep at it. I'm on my third try of my first shield. It is encouraging to see other people trying. I'm sure you'lll get there soon!
This thread is very helpful for me as well as I am about to start my first shield as well. Just ordered my star from Valor today and about to purchase my blank from that place in Miami.
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