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    May 29, 2010, 6:47 PM - Captain America Shield - Could use advice #1

    I am currently in the planning stages of building a Captain America Shield. Unfortunately I don't have too much experience with these sorts of things, so I was hoping for a bit of advice and/or guidance.

    I figured it would be a good idea to start with my plan as things stand now, followed by some questions. Please let me know if you see anything stupid.

    1. Build the Pepakura model from this thread on 405th.com http://405th.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22031
    2. Reinforce the card-stock shield. Possibly with fiberglass resin.
    3. Build it out to a smooth curve using something or another.
    4. Make a fiberglass negative using the card-stock-and-something shield.
    5. Pull a fiberglass shield.
    6. Paint the fiberglass shield.


    A few questions. What would you recommend to build it out in step 3? Also, I am at a bit of a loss when it comes to masking it off for painting. I've never masked anything on a curved surface like Cap's shield and I have absolutely no idea how I'm going to get the circles and star nice and crisp.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
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    May 29, 2010, 7:17 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #2

    Fettclone had a great pictorial/ pic build up of his shield. I think it turned out fantastic.

    Back in the day I noticed that he just used tape and a whole LOT of patience to get the masking done. You probably have to trim the tape with an exacto knife or something to get the curve...

    see for yourself: http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...america+shield

    all your questions should be answered as well - regarding what to use for the smoothing part etc...
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    May 29, 2010, 9:13 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #3

    I have a tutorial saved on one of my computers for doing the shield which i too plan to start this summer and this is what the creator suggested as a base for the shield

    http://www.amazon.com/Flexible-Flyer.../dp/B0006N8WYM

    hope that helps as a start to such an iconic piece
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    May 29, 2010, 9:38 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #4

    ave4uevoli said: View Post
    Fettclone had a great pictorial/ pic build up of his shield. I think it turned out fantastic.

    Back in the day I noticed that he just used tape and a whole LOT of patience to get the masking done. You probably have to trim the tape with an exacto knife or something to get the curve...

    see for yourself: http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...america+shield

    all your questions should be answered as well - regarding what to use for the smoothing part etc...
    I saw that thread, and it does have quite a bit of useful information. Unfortunately, he didn't go into a whole lot of detail.

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    I have a tutorial saved on one of my computers for doing the shield which i too plan to start this summer and this is what the creator suggested as a base for the shield

    http://www.amazon.com/Flexible-Flyer.../dp/B0006N8WYM

    hope that helps as a start to such an iconic piece
    I thought about using a sled for the shield, but half of the point of this project is to get some experience with fiberglass with a relatively simple shape.

    It's hard to tell from the picture, but if that sled has the right curvature it would be almost perfect. I'm excited to see how yours turns out.

    Do you think you could post a link to that tutorial?
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    May 29, 2010, 11:37 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #5

    no problem heres the link to the tutorial that uses the sled as a base

    http://theleagueofheroes.yuku.com/to...-have-fun.html
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    May 30, 2010, 12:48 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #6

    Also you might want to check out Fettsters post in the junkyard, the sheild he is doing looks awsomeness incarnate !!
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    May 30, 2010, 5:27 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #7

    IneffablePolk,

    irishamericanlad makes awesome metal shields. He has a tutorial up on LOH if you want to check it out. There outstanding. Also his website has pics on the different Cap shields he makes as well.
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    May 30, 2010, 7:00 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #8

    Instead of painting, you could lay up colored gel coat in the negative- of course, you'd have to have a scribe line to tell where to start one color and stop another.
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    May 30, 2010, 8:11 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #9

    you could try this as a base as most of it is already done, though I see someone above already listed a source for this.
    http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/43608..._Base&subrnd=0

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    May 30, 2010, 11:07 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #10

    thats what i use... the tutorial on the LOH is mine but if u have questions let me know...
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    May 31, 2010, 6:39 AM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #11

    Just a thought that might help on the masking side, as masking a curve can be a pain.
    The masking tape you can buy which is 'bendable' for curved surfaces does work but it struggles to hold a crisp edge.
    My old workshop was along side a car repair and resto shop, and they had an old Merc which needed the hubcaps respraying. After much trial we all found the easiest way was to make a simple cylinder/tube out of thin card which matches the circle you need to spray/mask.
    This then sits over the circle with its own weight, and allows you to spray some pretty neat edging. You simply spray inside, or outside, the card cylinder. Use masking tape tags to hold the cylinder/tubes shape on the side you aren't spraying.
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    May 31, 2010, 10:15 AM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #12

    for the circles i used small, medium and a large wooden circle used for needle point, i would lightly draw the lines i pencil, then i used 2mm blue decal tape, it stretches and bends slightly ad secures to the shield fine, then i go around that with masking tape, the nnew blue stuff that is made for sitting for a long time is better cause u could pull up the tape and the paint with it if ur paint and base coats havnt set right... take ur time and really watch what ur doig and it will come out nice...

    http://www.westmarine.com/1/1/17699-...ape-1-1-2.html


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    May 31, 2010, 11:42 AM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #13

    That sled is really tempting, I'll probably go with it if the fiberglassing doesn't work out. Though I am afraid I'd have to go through several before I cut one that was even close to round, and that could get expensive pretty quick.

    In other news, I do have my first WIP picture. right now I'm about 10% done cutting and scoring the Pepakura pieces.

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    May 31, 2010, 12:26 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #14

    actually the cutting is easy, the fold or lip of of the shield is what i place the saw on and it creates the guide for u, and then when ur done u grind it to a clean lip then sand or file it so theres no jagged edges.. u can fiberglass the little holes... trust me i started doing this like 2 years ago and its not a hard project... thats why i offer up the tutorial!
    but good luck in ur works

    IneffablePolk said: View Post
    That sled is really tempting, I'll probably go with it if the fiberglassing doesn't work out. Though I am afraid I'd have to go through several before I cut one that was even close to round, and that could get expensive pretty quick.

    In other news, I do have my first WIP picture. right now I'm about 10% done cutting and scoring the Pepakura pieces.

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    May 31, 2010, 1:56 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #15

    very cool tutorial. I want to make all of caps. shields.
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    May 31, 2010, 2:06 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #16

    i can do one for the WW2 shield i make.. if u want
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    May 31, 2010, 5:56 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #17

    that is a lot of pages to cut out for pepping it. good luck and can't wait to see how it turns out for you
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    May 31, 2010, 10:26 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #18

    So, funny story. I just discovered that the guy who made the Pepakura file messed up and did the front and the back. In other words, I'm going to end up making two cardboard shields. Not that big of a deal, but it does mean that it'll end up taking twice as long.

    At least I'll have one to f up on.
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    Jun 1, 2010, 1:18 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #19

    Making some progress.



    The shield is basically made of 6 rings of triangles. I have finished 1 and a half rings, so I'm about 1/4 of the way through the pepping. The size is spot on.
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    Jun 1, 2010, 8:57 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #20

    irishamericanlad said: View Post
    for the circles i used small, medium and a large wooden circle used for needle point, i would lightly draw the lines i pencil, then i used 2mm blue decal tape, it stretches and bends slightly ad secures to the shield fine, then i go around that with masking tape, the nnew blue stuff that is made for sitting for a long time is better cause u could pull up the tape and the paint with it if ur paint and base coats havnt set right... take ur time and really watch what ur doig and it will come out nice...
    Something else that works well is fine line tape, used in the autobody industry, amongst other places I'm sure. It's extremely flexible, come in a variety on widths (1/8 - 3/4'') and won't pull up your paint: http://www.tcpglobal.com/3m/itemdeta...temno=MMM+6404
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    Jun 1, 2010, 9:12 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #21

    irishamericanlad said: View Post
    i can do one for the WW2 shield i make.. if u want
    That would be great if you did that! I have a big sheet of sintra with nothing to make. Thanks for the idea. I bet masking the stripes must be tedious getting them straight! How big is the shield?
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    Jun 21, 2010, 10:53 AM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #22

    Ok, so the pepping didn't work as well as I'd hoped. It just isn't rigid enough for something this big and flat. That's alright though, because we are on to plan B: big foam circles.





    Only the top five circles are for real. The bottom one is thirty inches, and is just there to tell me where to stop. The darkened area in the second picture is where there will actually be shield.

    To give you a better idea of the shape, here is the picture I threw together in Photoshop to figure out how big to cut the circles.



    To build it up, I'm thinking the paper-mache material from this video: YouTube - Easy Paper Mache Clay Recipe. Has anyone used something like this? Would it be suitable?
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    Jun 21, 2010, 12:43 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #23

    Great idea!

    You could use bondo or some type of sculpting material to smooth it out.
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    Jun 21, 2010, 8:03 PM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #24

    jt001 said: View Post
    Great idea!

    You could use bondo or some type of sculpting material to smooth it out.
    I'm hoping that I'll be able to sand it smooth enough that I can just put on a few coats of polyurethane or resin or even just a crap-ton of the release wax to get it smooth enough to make a good mold.
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    Jun 26, 2010, 9:13 AM - Re: Captain America Shield - Could use advice #25

    I did a test with that paper mache stuff, and several days (and 20 minutes in the oven) later it still isn't completely dry.

    I'm going to experiment later today with the quick-drying drywall mud, but in the meantime, does anyone have any advice of a good material to build the foam up into a curve?

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