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    Jan 25, 2009 - Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #1

    Hi Guys,

    I am calling on all you experts out there to see if anyone can help me identify the maker and origins of this SFS screen used replica Stormtrooper helmet.

    All the details including the tube stripes are hand painted and the helmet itself is painted khaki/tan with white over the top and all the drips, chips and scratches have been meticulously recreated.

    I bought this off *bay a while back.

    The first shot is a comparison shot with the original SFS Dave helmet on the left and mine on the right, the others are of my helmet from various angles. The helmet varies in colour on these shots due to lighting etc.

    Whilst I am aware that this is probably a recast but I thought it had been done rather well and bought it anyway.

    It is marked V28 on the inside.

    I look forward to hearing from you all.

    Mark.
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    Jan 25, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #2

    yes they could if they knew enough about trooper lids.........
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    Jan 25, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #3

    zorg said: View Post
    yes they could if they knew enough about trooper lids.........
    Well that's obvious!

    That is why I am asking if anyone who can identify this. Unless you know about Trooper lids you won't !
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    Jan 25, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #4

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    Jan 25, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #5

    Its an AP recast.. and it looks like the marking is "VT" in the helmet, just combined. Since cap sold his AP moulds to VT then I'd say its pretty certain
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #6

    This is the thing I love about this board.

    You could take 100 different buckets, and there's always at least a dozen or so people, who could tell you EXACTLY where each and every one of them came from.

    That's why this board rules.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #7

    ..well...it helps when the recaster signs it!
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #8

    FON said: View Post
    Its an AP recast.. and it looks like the marking is "VT" in the helmet, just combined. Since cap sold his AP moulds to VT then I'd say its pretty certain
    Thanks FON. That's great. Not being a recast but finding out who did it.
    I pretty much knew it was a recast but I think he has done an outstanding job on it anyway.
    Madrobot you're right , it's one hell of a great place to find out whats what in this game.

    Thanks, I can now rest.

    Just for the record is VT respected or not? His work seems very good.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #9

    All kinds of recast trooper helmets going around in rpf threads these days.

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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #10

    hey skunky - just Nate from over from FISD. Agree it looks like a VT lid.

    as you know, lots of the TK issues are mired in some muddy waters.

    GINO - dont want to step on your (or any of the big boys with authorised molds) toes. so what I say here is purely my opinion rather than fact.

    there are original fan sculpts - TM; and there are original derived recasts of screen used props which are 'legit' eg GINO, AP, TE/TE2

    AFAIK VT's are considered 100%recast of TE. Ok ok - I know purist are gonna say all the screen accurate lids are recast, but VTs falls into the category of non-legit (ie no permission from original mold owner)

    reports are VTs has worked a bit on the molds and that his stuff is well put together. but its recast nonetheless.

    personally, I wouldnt have got it; but I am pretty hard line recasts. In fact I have often missed out on deals as have not been able to verify origins in time to snag an item before someone else does

    apologies to board and veteran members - I know I am pretty new to this board, and may not know more details regarding VT himself. But as far as is he respected goes? My personal opinion would be - it doesnt matter how good his work is, I would not respect him purely based on the recasting issue.

    at the moment - I would love a SA lid, but as I cant afford the asking prices, I am just doing without for now

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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #11

    Heatshock said: View Post
    there are original fan sculpts - TM; and there are original derived recasts of screen used props which are 'legit' eg GINO, AP, TE/TE2
    I've not seen ONE original fan sculpt trooper helmet besides the FX or it's derivatives.

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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #12

    again - I am not a maker; just a simple collector.

    but I am sure trooper master sculpted his own armour and lid. I mean there are several sources of TM armour, including starwarshelmets.com of course.

    will investigate

    but back to orignal thread - yes, VT lid. VT bad.

    Nate
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #13

    Heatshock said: View Post
    but I am sure trooper master sculpted his own armour and lid. I mean there are several sources of TM armour, including starwarshelmets.com of course.
    Like I said above, I've never seen an original sculpted trooper helmet besides the FX derivatives.

    Since you mentioned it, ask Jez at SWhelmets.com if he believes TM's helmet is an original sculpt. I already know what he thinks.

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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #14



    cheers for info GINO
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #15

    I thought we saw pics of his sculpt...? All stages of it?

    Been a few years, though.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #16

    I remember those pics. Looks nothing like what you see now.

    Check this out. Angles aren't exactly the same and shape of the dome changes with assembly, but check out the face, bird's eye view never lies.




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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #17

    they are very similar. I have to agree.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #18

    Yup. Very different shape.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #19

    Of course the dome from the top is going to look different depending on the angle and the way the helmet was assembled.

    Here is my helmet with just the slightest difference of angle and you can see a difference in the shape of the dome. The dome on the right looks a big narrower, but it's the same helmet.




    Here's another comparison showing mine next to TM's. Still not the exact same angle but closer.
    Mine is a stunt, his is a hero so there is some assembly difference.
    Michelangelo couldn't have re-sculpted that close of a faceplate.





    And if you think it's just me who believes this, ask Jez and Art (braks) what they think.



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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #20

    GINO said: View Post
    Michelangelo couldn't have re-sculpted that close of a faceplate.
    Yes he could.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #21

    It's that kind of blind support that makes me feel even more like my decision to stop sharing helmets/armor (or upcoming ones) with the community was the right one.

    Every time I start to think maybe it's not so bad to share, something like this comes along and slaps some sense into me.


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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #22

    This seems to turning into another recsating debate. I just wanted to see if anyone could help me to identify a helmet I bought a while back, not to have a lengthy debate on who's right and who's wrong or has what and who doesn't! I think we all pretty much covered that a couple of days ago.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #23

    Don't buy stuff you know to be recast then there's no issue is there.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #24

    Very interesting topic here. I also thought TM's was a fan sculpt?

    Just to go O.T for a sec.

    Gino, don't stop sharing what you have. Yours is considered the best lid out there. And i, for one, would love to own one one day.
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    Jan 26, 2009 - re: Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? #25

    I didn't know it was recast when I bought it as I am no expert on what is recast and what isn't. But I am learning day by day thanks to an incredibly knowledgeable bunch of people.
    And I second what Neil says[Quote] Gino, Don't stop sharing[Quote]. I have never had the fortune to own anything you have put out , but unfortunately judging from your comments towards me I doubt I ever will.
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