Boba Fett / Bizarre pic

I appologize if this has been discussed before, but I found this very strange Boba Fett pic in the front of the newest Insider. If anyone can host a higher resolution pic, I've got one scanned that I can email you so we can take a better look at this.

I know I've never seen this particular pic before. Fettheads will appreciate this I think for several reasons.

I don't think I've ever seen this variation on the prepro suit before. Is this possibly a new pic, because unlike the jetpacks pictured with typical Prepro gear, this one is weathered like ROTJ. Or possibly it was weathered at the prepro stage and then was used in ROTJ as is.

No wookie scalps. No lower cube on the rangefinder. The weathering on the yellow gauntlet is slightly different than the one typically seen on the prepros. The flight suit is closer to ROTJ in color. TWO survival knives are seen (one in each shin pocket). I can't even count all the ammo pouches (ten or more?) on the belt. No right side saddle bag.

I could go on and on.

So what are we looking at here? Are these pre-pro pieces that were still in existence and put together for a shot. Or is it a variation on the pre-pro pic that hasn't seen the light of day before?

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To me it looks much simpler than all that. It looks like they tried to cram a guy who BARELY fits into the Fett suit.

Qui-Gonzalez said:

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To me it looks much simpler than all that. It looks like they tried to cram a guy who BARELY fits into the Fett suit.

Not sure what you mean. The guy looks fairly skinny to me. And actually, the style of the photo is similar to all the other prepro shots, so I tend to say it came from that era, and that it's probably the same model being used.

Rogue Studios said:

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Hard to say when the photo was taken the suit is very faded and all of them were dyed together. However the dye they used is very prone to fading

I don't think it's faded. I'm guessing on this particular suit, that was the color and therefore another variation.

Rogue Studios said:

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All of the pieces were sent to Daydream productions (no longer in business) to be painted and dyed at the same time.

I thought all the armor was shipped to Joe Johnston and he did all the painting. What I read years ago, anyway.

Rogue Studios said:

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The pouches that are missing (saddlebags) held one dry cell battery each to power the pack and it's functions those pouches were made specifically to hold those batteries and were not a cosmetic addition if that makes sense.

Ironically, my first Fett suit had the same gray wiring going from the battery in the saddlebag and up to power the chestlights from behind. It just felt right.

Interesting info and a shame about that helmet not being kept in better condition.

Art, where does the "Sandy" reference come from? And does anyone have any better pics of it? I'd be interested in seeing the back.

Slave1 said:

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Not sure what you mean. The guy looks fairly skinny to me. And actually, the style of the photo is similar to all the other prepro shots, so I tend to say it came from that era, and that it's probably the same model being used.

What I meant was he looks taller than the armor and soft parts. I no ZERO about Fett suits, but to me, it looked like he was crammed into piece made for a guy maybe 4 inches shorter. Everything looks very snug compared to what I have seen of Fett suits.

The suits were all dyed blue/gray from being white.

Actually from research and some conversation with Joe he only painted two helmets. The rest was prepared by Sandy at Daydream productions. We have photos of her and her folks painting helmets and dying suit pieces. Been sitting on a lot of information for a long time in hopes of writing a book on the subject but one publisher wanted up front cash (tens of thousands) and the other choice basically has to invite you to write for them aka contracted by LFL. I have spent a lot years and research on this, my wife just accepts my obsession and knows It's not a passing thing LOL.

Slave1 said:

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I thought all the armor was shipped to Joe Johnston and he did all the painting. What I read years ago, anyway.

Art, where does the "Sandy" reference come from? And does anyone have any better pics of it? I'd be interested in seeing the back.

It was shipped to Joe and either he or an associate/apprentice painted the first prepro suit which was then sent to Sandy who did most of the others including the RotJ, the one in the image above, and the PP2.

Here is the sad state of the helmet today as it sits in the LF archive.

Rogue Studios said:

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The suits were all dyed blue/gray from being white.

Actually from research and some conversation with Joe he only painted two helmets. The rest was prepared by Sandy at Daydream productions. We have photos of her and her folks painting helmets and dying suit pieces.

OMG, this brings up something I had forgotten for a long time. I had a pic from years back that I've since lost of a lady working on the Fett suit. I can't for the life of me remember what she was doing, but I think it was something to do with the gloves. Since the gloves used to be my speciality back in the day, it would make sense that that pic would have come my way. Wish I still had the pic but it was lost two computers ago.

I really kind of dig this helmet. A shame we haven't seen more of it. Does anyone have a prepro shot of when it had it's non-rangefinder earcap? Any pics of the back?

I believe this is the pic you are referring to:


And here she is with the RotJ hero, PP2, and "Sandy" helmet.

That top one is the one, Art, yes.

I had the second one also, and I think I might have had a couple of more.

Thanks for posting those!

I think there are two more from that set if I recall correctly.

Yes, I think there were a couple more also.

This makes me wish I had hung on to a pair of the prepros I made.

Could this be the ANH version they had but never shown.
I belive they did a shot with Boba and Solo where they had Milenium.

They did that scene with Jabba and solo and i belive Boba was there as well. But Jabba was first a Hairy "bastard"

Did they not use the original footage of Harrison ford in that scene and replaced Jabba. Did they Add Boba or was that an original footage of him as well?

I am sorry... i think i am reffing to another photo of him wearing a spear gun painted green.

But anyway.... The armor parts used for boba were they not already made in ANH? And the new inserted photage of hn jabba and boba... Is only Solo original photage?

That was new footage which was superimposed digitally. I sold that particular actor the first ROTJ blaster I made, as well as a pair of my ROTJ gloves

One thing I notice particularly about that pic and others of the pre-pro and even ESB shots is that the right chest emblem is outlined in, what I see as black, yet the more popular choice of replication is the blue outlined one as seen in ROTJ....

Just a goofy observation I guess.

DL 44 Blaster said:

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One thing I notice particularly about that pic and others of the pre-pro and even ESB shots is that the right chest emblem is outlined in, what I see as black, yet the more popular choice of replication is the blue outlined one as seen in ROTJ....

Just a goofy observation I guess.

I can't tell if this particular one is black or dark blue. Here's a shot of the prepro emblem on the standee. Not to say it will be the same emblem, though.

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Actually, that particular chest plate is most likely the same as the one on the standard prepro costume.

Also, here's a link to the larger pic Art mentioned.

Check out the shins. Two of the survival knives . . . one on each leg.

Great photos and discussions. Cannot wait to see where it leads.

There are so many Fett parts (approx 6 complete suits) that the mix and match variables are virtually endless. While we like to specifically categorize certain pieces as belonging to certain suits, it is very clear that none of the original prop makers took such a hardline stance and the parts were more or less grabbed and used, somewhat at random. Going back to the dating of this pic, I would think the intact Sandy helmet would be enough to date it very very early on.

To her best recollection, Sandy painted three full suits. The unofficially named "Prepro 2," which most of us should be familiar with, is the first suit to appear in promotional material for ESB, though prior to its release.

Prepro 2 suit:


The other two suits she painted, which included the "Sandy" helmet from the insider photo and what would be known as the ROTJ helmet, seemed to have swapped parts here and there and never really appear as an official suit. In other words, the "SW insider" suit is just another PAINTED variation of the Prepro2.

I believe there is one Prepro 2 chest piece on that costume ( I checked this out last month and I am going off memory), and I think maybe a knee and cod might have shown up at AOSW and MOM respectively.

In short, it's not really another version of the suit like the differences between the white suit, the Prepro 2 suit, the ESB suit, ect... It's just one of three paint variations of the Prepro 2 suit.

tylerdurden_soap_maker said:

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In short, it's not really another version of the suit like the differences between the white suit, the Prepro 2 suit, the ESB suit, ect... It's just one of three paint variations of the Prepro 2 suit.

Yes, but the variations are what make the different versions. I think this is a really distinct looking assembly is really interesting.

Sure, looking at the Chronicles pics, you can almost imagine everyone going, "Hmmm, how about if he wears his cape this way," or "Let's tighten up this part," "How would it look if the ammo pouches were rearanged?"

So, yeah, I think a lot of mix and match went on, but I think the costume as a whole really does come off as a seperate version. That jumpsuit is very much ROTJ, as is the much more weathered jetpack. Put it together with a helmet I've never seen in any prepro shots before, and I think it's pretty significant.

The helmet is certainly significant and unique... I am not sure I completely agree on the rest of the suit... but I sure wouldn't complain if someone created this variation!