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    Oct 30, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1676

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    I believe he said be very careful, or it will shatter.

    Nor sure what i said without rereading it (cause i say so much i can´t remember all ) - but i assume that what a machinist calls "shatter" wasn´t my main concern. That kind of "shatter" happens when a not rigid enough machine (mini lathe) is used with a to big tool and/or the wrong feed in any direction, then the small toolpost is flexing down and grabbing again, several times a second - not good.


    In mainly all turning processes on this gun the upper receiver will be chucked on it´s barrel frontpart, and stabilized with a living center in the tailstock in the hole for the bolt on the rear end. Due to that the most of the receiver is not chucked firmly.

    Be carefull and don´t use to much rounds per minute, and with MGCs with a massive barrel all should go fine. But there are also MGCs with a bore, so the barrel is a tube, if that get´s machined to thin it can be thrown out of the lathe due to the rounds per minute - maybe against the wall behind the machine, maybe against your chest or head. It can be done, just not with faith and fun, you should know what you do and where the danger is.

    For those who want to read the thread with my Hero/MGC buildup: http://www.therpf.com/f9/han-solos-a...6/#post1698180
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    Oct 30, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1677

    Thanks. If it starts to look too daunting, I can always cut it flush and add the post for attaching the bull barrel. Plan to go very slow and cautious.
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    Oct 30, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1678

    jheilman said: View Post
    Plan to go very slow and cautious.

    That´s always the best way.

    Check on both ends of your barrel if it´s hollow, and if not you maybe want to cut it a few cm from the muzzle/half way. If it´s massive there, it should be massive all over the full length.


    I will see if i can find/show a way to turn/file it on a drillpress, more or less safely. It may take some days, as i´m pretty busy atm.
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    Oct 30, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1679

    I haven't stripped it completely to look through the barrel. Will do that at some point.
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    Nov 8, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1681

    Yeah, not yet sure how I feel about it though. Part of me says it would be cool to see the cast reprise their roles. The other part says remember Indiana Jones 4. Also not sure I like the idea of an episode 7, rather than starting with a new series of adventures in the same universe. I see both sides and am torn.
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    Nov 8, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1682

    Enough talk. I want to see some pieces of that gun!
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    Nov 8, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1683

    Whose? What?
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    Nov 8, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1684

    The one that you are gonna hack up to make it mo' betta.
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    Nov 8, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1685

    Yeah, not yet. Real life has intruded again.
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    Nov 9, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1686

    OK, need help from MGC owners. I did finally break mine down and now I have issues. A couple pieces just flew off when disassembling. Pretty sure they are back where they belong, but when I reassemble, the fit isn't tight anymore. The top receiver has slop to it when the hammer is cocked and the safety is very loose. When the hammer is not cocked, the safety used to move the hammer away from the firing pin when activated. No longer. Something isn't right. This gun was still oiled when I bought it. So, I'm guessing it has been taken down and reassembled quite a bit in its 30+ years. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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    Nov 9, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1687

    OK, after 2 hours (and two cocktails to boot), I figured it out. A small, spring-loaded tab had to be depressed before installing a piece under the upper. That provides tension to the entire assembly. Now it works like it's supposed to. I may make a video of disassembly and reassembly just to have a document of it. I'm guessing the guns originally shipped with owners manuals for this stuff? I couldn't find one online, so I'm betting they're rare.
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    Nov 9, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1688

    That would be very cool of you to do. Both of my MGC's have a little loosness to them but I just assumed it was normal. I am afraid to disassemble at this point. A vid might give me more confidence. lol!
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    Nov 9, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1689

    Sorry for not checking this thread earlier...I would have been able to help you guys out

    Having too much trouble atm and am trying to keep things organized in Michael´s aka daddyfromNaboo´s fundraising thread.

    Curious about the video you made jheilman!

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    Nov 9, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1690

    Haven't made anything yet. Maybe this weekend. It would show a partial field strip of the MGC. Haven't taken the upper apart yet and not sure I will. I read in an older thread that the pin and springs can be difficult to remove?
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    Nov 11, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1691

    Here's a video of a partial field strip of the MGC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVaMaXVDA5Y
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    Nov 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1692

    Well done...couldn´t have made it any better

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    Nov 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1693

    VERY cool! Love vids like that one.
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    Nov 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1694

    Thanks guys. Now I have a record in case I forget how to do it.
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    Nov 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1695

    Awesome video, jheilman!


    -Carson
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    Nov 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1696

    Yeah, very cool video. May very well be the closest I'll ever get to a real MGC
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    Dec 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1697

    I just received what is easily the best thing I've ever bought in my entire life, and opening this was literally like unboxing a dream..

    Our favorite little mystery part has been identified!...Finally!!

    A huge, tremendous thanks to the members of RCgroups and everyone here on the RPF that posted and helped us out on this project! Especially Kpax for giving me the push I needed in the beginning to partner up and work with him on this project full time. This project wouldn't have happened and these parts wouldn't have been found yet if it wasn't for all of his wonderful work and help.

    Now on to the info, after looking for a little insight from some RC fans, someone just happened to give some phenomenal suggestions as to what the mystery grill cylinder might be. So after ordering some parts and tracking down a kit to confirm, it turns out the Grill is actually a plastic Dummy Radial Engine Cylinder made originally for a large model aircraft kit by Veron for their model of the Hawker Tomtit. It seems that the same plastic cylinder set is also included in the Veron Avro 504 kits as well.

    The kit I received today seems to be a slightly newer version of the kit, maybe early 80's or so, but I'm pretty sure it's the same exact cylinder parts set that was offered in the 70's version before and during the production of ANH. Here is a photo grabbed from the web showing what appears to be the original 70's version of the kit:

    While waiting for the parts and kit to arrive Pat and I were thinking that these cylinders were in halves, basing on photos on the web that showed instructions included with the kit which has drawings of the dummy cylinder assembly. But after inspecting one of the vintage cylinders it appears to me that they're actually injection molded into one solid cylinder rather than halves as the instructions show.

    ..Now on to the photos!







    And it also came with 10 of these little familiar looking things in with the dummy cylinders...Wonder what they could be?



    Yep, our mystery 'antennas' are actually part of the dummy cylinder assemblies included in this very same kit, and Pat found out that they are actually called Pushrods. The kit's pushrods are made so that two of them can be glued to each of the five cylinders in the kit to make up the look of the plane's engine.









































    And there's more good news, if you guys want the best replicas possible of these parts there's a website right now (right under our noses..) run by what appears to be the family of the original machinist/creator of these parts who made them originally for Veron. The site appears to be selling re-manufactured versions of the cylinder kits including the push-rods from the original injection molds!

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    I haven't received my order from them yet, but I plan to compare them to the originals once they show up.

    Thanks again Pat and everyone else that has posted and helped with this project. It's definitely been the greatest project I've ever been part of. It has certainly been a dream come true for me since the start of all of this, and now it somehow managed to shift into a real fantasy come true.


    -Carson
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    Dec 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #1698

    Woah!!
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    Dec 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Two Greeblies FOUND, Update in 1st Post #1699

    thats an awesome find!! i just ordered a set for my blaster!
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    Dec 12, 2012 - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Two Greeblies FOUND, Update in 1st Post #1700

    Great job! A two fer part id.
    Thanks for sharing the info.!

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