ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

good point about the hole. If the glued on pulley was painted after there could be spray through.

Those are great images too!

lonepigeon said:

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It most likely isn't. It's probably paint too. The greeblie had a center hole.

While I think the pics of the Hero suggest a flat bottom, the castings from that upper make it almost certain.

Underside of a Merr Sonn...


No doubt that's flat. It also appears to taper which I hadn't really considered until this thread.

An ESB stunt blaster...


Flat, but also obviously cleaned up/filed so the flat spot is much wider than the original. I believe these ESB stunt blasters were cast from the ANH Hero after production (ANH parts stripped off). They have the same upper as the Merr Sonn castings, but the lower is different.

kpax said:

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Note the barrel end cut off profile in these shots.

The barrel isn't cut off it's broken. Both guns originally had the flash hider.
It was part of the casting.

That left side pic of the blaster is from SW Chronicles. It could be scanned higher quality, but I don't think a better original copy of the photo has surfaced.

Ah Hah! That's what we needed to see! Thanks lonepigeon!

And with the taper that kpax was talking about as well, very nice work everybody!

-Carson

lonepigeon said:

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It most likely isn't. It's probably paint too. The greeblie had a center hole.

While I think the pics of the Hero suggest a flat bottom, the castings from that upper make it almost certain.

Underside of a Merr Sonn...


No doubt that's flat. It also appears to taper which I hadn't really considered until this thread.

An ESB stunt blaster...


Flat, but also obviously cleaned up/filed so the flat spot is much wider than the original. I believe these ESB stunt blasters were cast from the ANH Hero after production (ANH parts stripped off). They have the same upper as the Merr Sonn castings, but the lower is different.

Again, maybe they glued on the pulley greeblie on the HERO and either it came off early, or they took it off because it wouldn't holster properly or kept coming off in the holster.

In the pre production stills (very small images) of H. Ford playing in a field with the prop you can see the disk.

pretty evident now....i think

still have the dvd coming but don't think we need it... it will be the final proof

The disk on the Merr Sonn Blaster has a little square notch in it, which would show in the paint when removed. So I don't think it's exactly like that one, but seems very likely to be a similar piece. Like the barrel greeblie, it looks very similar, but not quite the same.

But, that's probably what they were going for.


Edit: I changed the Title of this thread to ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion to free up the discussion a bit.

-Carson

kpax said:

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Again, maybe they glued on the pulley greeblie on the HERO and either it came off early, or they took it off because it wouldn't holster properly or kept coming off in the holster.

In the pre production stills (very small images) of H. Ford playing in a field with the prop you can see the disk.

No, it's missing in those photos too.

Sorry, I meant you can see the "disk"... not the pulley greeblie



I just flattened my barrel with the taper and lowered it. It looks fine. At the same angles as the pics it looks correct. Don't notice the flat except from bottom view , as it should be.

I will post pics shortly.

Also one measurement off from real mauser. The dimension across the top of the receiver above the bevels , my denix is about .400+- not the .2975 Dcarty measured. Considerable. Always wondered why it look a bit different there. Easy fix.

That's some serious detective work you guys have done! I wonder how long until eFX bring out the 'Ultimate Edition' and steal the thunder from you!?

I guess I need to go and add the flat bototm to my ESB stunt replica now too!

deadbolt said:

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Ah Hah! That's what we needed to see! Thanks lonepigeon!

And with the taper that kpax was talking about as well, very nice work everybody!

-Carson

About the cylinders. I had a look through my old emails and found one I received from the Williams guy in 2008. I had forgotten he contacted me then out of the blue even though I hadn't spoken to him since 2005.

He told me that he had managed to buy back the missing Williams molds (Williams had sold them to another company which also went out of business and had been bought up by yet another company) but the molds for that style of cylinder only went up to 1" scale (7/8" in length) which is about half the size of the ANH part.

Sorry, I completely forgot about this when I made my last post about the cylinders.

Here are some prelim shots of my model with the tapered flat barrel.

Only put in place and not finished yet.

I also narrowed the top of the receiver bevel to Dcarty's specs.

Let me know what you think

one more

and another

Wow! I want one!

kpax said:

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and another

Looks good!

I now have two inaccurate blasters. Thanks guys...

Sluis Van Shipyards said:

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Looks good!

I now have two inaccurate blasters. Thanks guys...

You are not alone - i´m pretty sure i can now make another barrel.

Just not sure about all details.

This shows the same angle (approx) I think I need to turn the bbl down just a little overall but now the "highlight" under the HERO barrel looks like a taper when you can compare to something known.

Nice work kpax, looking good! Just that much more accurate now.

So, does anybody have the correct, real MG81 Flash Hider they could provide a couple measurements for? Maybe then we will be able figure up a more definite Barrel Length for this sucker.

-Carson

My FH is a duplicate of a real MG81 in steel and was made for a real MG81 SEE post 11.

I can provide specs and maybe compare with others.

I think my bbl is close but am going to review.

It was said that the flash hider, as evidenced in some photos, was "stuffed" to make the barrel sit in the hider centered which is why the flash hider is off kilter in some pics.

The "set screw" is only used here to secure the end of the barrel. Not sure if they threaded the barrel or the MG81 hole to do this.

Not sure if everyone knows, but the REAL MG81 boosters do not use set screws. The holes in the flash hider, which if you notice goes through top and bottom, as to aid in screwing the booster on and off the end of the machine gun barrel. You would put a rod through the holes to get more leverage. You can imagine the vibration the machine gun would exhibit. If the booster wasn't tight it would just fly off.

See below:

kurtyboy said:

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That's some serious detective work you guys have done! I wonder how long until eFX bring out the 'Ultimate Edition' and steal the thunder from you!?

..They probably will, but let's hope not!

-Carson

I have 1.200 for the barrel from edge of FH to receiver.

So far...

Good point about the notch

deadbolt said:

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The disk on the Merr Sonn Blaster has a little square notch in it, which would show in the paint when removed. So I don't think it's exactly like that one, but seems very likely to be a similar piece. Like the barrel greeblie, it looks very similar, but not quite the same.

But, that's probably what they were going for.


Edit: I changed the Title of this thread to ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion to free up the discussion a bit.

-Carson