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    Aug 23, 2012, 3:36 AM - 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #1

    OK, so I've got a roll of each, and so far neither is doing the trick for me. The Frog tape won't stick to ANY surface I try to put it on, it just peels up after a minute. However, the blue painter's tape pulls about half of the previous coat of paint off of whatever it's stuck to. That was allowing 3 days for the paint to dry before masking over it. Can anybody give me some advice so that I won't ruin the final coat of paint on this thing? Is there a trick to getting the frog tape to stick? Is there a reason the blue tape pulled up the paint?
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    Aug 23, 2012, 4:54 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #2

    the only advice i can really think of is to keep using the blue painters tape but take some of the stick out of it, when i used to work on cars we'd stick it to our trousers or shirt just to take the edge off of it.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 5:04 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #3

    That sounds like some good advice. Anybody else tried it and want to second that?
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    Aug 23, 2012, 5:27 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #4

    I've done this with Aztek Dummy Enterprise templates....every single one got the trousers and shirt treatment to reduce stickiness.

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    Aug 23, 2012, 5:31 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #5

    Risu said: View Post
    That sounds like some good advice. Anybody else tried it and want to second that?
    I've done that in the days before painter's tape. It works to de-tack the adhesive. Aren't the purple and green versions of 3M painter's tack different tackiness?
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    Aug 23, 2012, 6:46 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #6

    de-mask/de-tack it but try the green tape, world of difference. But, it all depends on the surface itself. Some surfaces just wont hold paint well and will always fleck right off.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 7:28 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #7

    The item in question is a Spatcave pulse rifle, coated with a good layer of black Krylon primer, then a coat of Krylon silver chrome. The chrome dried for 3 days, then I masked it for 2 while I painted the gun parts black. When I peeled it off the silver on the shrouds partly came off, leaving sort of a cloudy silver/black surface. It didn't flake, just lifted a bunch of the paint off. It never took the whole coat luckily.

    But yea, the green frog tape won't stick to it at all, just curls up and falls off.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 7:46 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #8

    Not green frog tape, green painters tape.

    Chrome from a rattle can will always peel up on anything. Try dull aluminum if you have to use a rattle can.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 8:01 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #9

    Have you tried Intertapes line of ProMask products yet? I've found that Frog tape and 3m blue can be a nightmare to work with, but intertape's promask blue is a happy medium.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 8:38 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #10

    so far i havent had any issue with the Frog tape when painting my Captain America shield, i used 3M Scotch tape at first but found that it left a film when peeling off. like the others have said, i think the surface being painted makes all the difference.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 8:53 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #11

    Ah ok, I used the chrome because I had it handy and didn't want to go all the way to walmart to get aluminum Krylon. Should I expect an issue if I put the tape on Krylon satin black? And does it matter if that satin black is on top of the chrome?
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    Aug 23, 2012, 9:26 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #12

    I use nothing but the 3M blue DELICATE tape. There is a huge difference and the price is significantly higher as well.

    Never had an issue with it pulling the paint off. The regular 3M blue tape is has alot more stick/tackiness to it. Try the DELICATE roll.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 9:28 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #13

    I use the 3M blue tape on most my projects and have never wanted to pay the extra for the frog tape. I have tried the trick of sticking it to my pants first and it does work as long as nothing else sticks to the tape and messes up the "edge".

    As far as spray paints, I have tried using chrome "metal finish" spray paints and they take forever to dry but do look good when applied. Good luck trying to sand out a small drip though. I had a small drip that was still wet underneath 4 days later and I had to go all the way back down to primer! I switched to silver Rub n Buff and love it. You can polish it up with a rag and it gives you a real metallic finish. I have also used a can of High Heat Aluminum spray paint that is used for your engine compartment that dried very quickly and I have never had any issues with it peeling when taped. I got it at an automotive store.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 10:18 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #14

    The silver doesn't have to look good, it's just and undercoat to sand through to for wear. So far there's no REAL damage done. The next step though, if the paint comes off I'm pretty screwed.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 11:18 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #15

    I used Automotive silver (Dupli-Color T191 Ultra Silver) on both my A2 armor and PR, never had any problems.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 11:23 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #16

    Tamiya yellow masking tape for models. Find it at a local hobby shop or order it online. Works like a charm and won't pull up previous layers.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 3:30 PM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #17

    I bought the frog tape,which isn't easy to find over here and i'm very happy with it.it sticks to every surface i used it on.
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    Aug 23, 2012, 9:43 PM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #18

    as far as painting over that chrome paint, its still going to be just as fleck-able than ever. Your surface finish is only as good as the base its applied to.
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    Aug 24, 2012, 2:22 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #19

    Well the surface didn't fleck, though. I'll see if I can post a picture of the damage tomorrow. I'm giving it a couple days before masking over the black parts. Have to finish by DC, so that's all I can spare.
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    Aug 25, 2012, 6:23 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #20

    OK, here's a picture.

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    Aug 26, 2012, 2:05 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #21

    Use paper to cover the larger areas and only have the blue tape holding the edges down.
    Also second on sticking it to your clothes a few times first to take a bit of the 'stick' away.
    Also you have to let your coats cure properly ,like a few days.
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    Aug 26, 2012, 2:34 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #22

    By the looks of the pic the paint has reacted with the sticky on the tape. I have had this problem and got round it by changing paint type, leaving it to dry for ages and not covering the whole lot with tape, use paper as Tabot says, i have also use saran wrap/clingfilm but that some times reacts with the over spray.
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    Aug 26, 2012, 2:43 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #23

    In this particular case, I have 3 days left to put on two more coats of paint, so I don't have the luxury of proper dry times. I'll definitely use paper or plastic to cover up what I can this time and the pants trick, though.
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    Aug 26, 2012, 3:42 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #24

    Then leave a day between coats and pop the item somewhere dry/warm/ventilated in between.

    Also 'scotching' (very light rub with find wet and dry) inbeween coats will really help to give the paint some strength
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    Aug 26, 2012, 6:31 AM - Re: 3M blue painter's tape vs. Frog tape #25

    I get that when i put tape over certain silvers especially flat silver. If it is just for a base i would give it a clearcoat then mask it up. Just make sure your clear is compatible with the silver and what ever you are putting on top of it.

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