I just put the finishing touches minus the eyelashes which I need to pick up tomorrow on this Pierce Brosnan bust . I hope I did it justice.It is going to a VERY important customer. A member of the Ian Fleming foundation.
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Wow.
Wow. Beautiful. That was a DOUBLE wow! Very nice.
streetjudge79 said:
I think the paintjob is better then the sculpture.Trap Joe said:
I think your wrong.Trap Joe said:
christopher
bondoking said:
Tact aside, there is nothing "Right" or "Wrong" about a personal opinion or interpretation.
Although I am a big believer that people should be able to voice their opinions, I will say that I am a very happy customer of Steve's paintjob of my Brosnan head and Howard's sculpt. I will tell you this head looks much better on a mannequin and in a surrounding rather than just sitting by itself. See below pics. I am sure Doug and the rest of the Ian Fleming Foundation group will be very happy with the above piece.
Thanks David. Hey shoot me an email sometime man, I haven't talked with you in forever.
that looks great! client will be very happy I'm sure
I also think so. Everyone has an opinion and a point of view. And from my point of view is the sculpt far away from good. Because i(!) can´t see a Pierce Bronan likeness in it.PHArchivist said:
Hey Trap Joe, I noticed in another thread you claim your a 'professional sculptor', but I seem to notice you have never posted any pictures of your work or don't have a website to see any either? I think it would be cool since you have no problems posting your strong opinions of others work who lay out here to be seen, I think in all fairness you should start posting yours as well... I think criticism is fair, but I'm dying to see some of your sculptures too.Trap Joe said:
Steve, fantastic paint work.
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Hi Howard, don´t be angry. Understood your statement :-) I will post it, when i´m able to put photos in a forum (need photobucket, or flickr). Meanwile, you can watch www.steegmueller-skulpturen.de or search google under jörg steegmüller (for example: + Yoda or vader (reveal).
I've seen your work and your Yoda puppet is an inspiration... Great likesness Howard and fab paintjob SteveTrap Joe said:
Thank you for your warm words Cyberman :-)
Howard, sorry, if i was sounding to hard!
your yoda looks ok. but the vader likeness is not there.Trap Joe said:
is that all you have to show, a yoda and a vader? the way you type and judge other ppl work make you sound like you have been sculpting since the dinosaurs!
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I think it's pretty funny that when people express an opinion other than major *****-kissing, they get beat down for it, or their own skill get called into question, as if the only people who's opinions count are professional sculptors.
I guess most of the people on this board better stop bi+ching about TV and movies because they don't actually create comperable product.
Is Howard an excellent sculptor? Obviously. Is he perfect? Well, who is?
Recreating the human face is one of the most difficult things to do. Unless you have a frozen puss (and I mean "face") like Paris Hilton, no one's face ever takes exactly the same picture twice, and we all have different ideas of what looks "right". And the way humans react to art is subjective, visceral and emotional.
I remember Chevy Chase coming into the Wax Museum, sitting in a set and setting up a camera to catch people commenting on his "wax figure", then he'd jump up and surprise them.
More people than not complained that it looked nothing like him. Nothing like him???
Were they thinking Chevy should look like he did during his SNL days, or were they remembering him from "Caddyshack"? Whatever they were referencing, it wasn't the flesh & blood guy sitting 5 feet away from them.
As far as MY opinion (for what it's worth) on the Brosnan sculpt.
The angle of the head-on pic of the sculpt may not exactly match the reference pic I'm using (which, of course can alter perspective), but my first impression was that the head looked a little short and a little wide, and when I went looking for comparison pics, it seems to be the case.
But, the only person's opinion who really matters in this, of course, is the client.
Also, when you're working in a medium other than wax, rubber or silicone, then add sculpted hair as opposed to plunged/laid, you're going to end up with an "action figure" look as opposed to the real subject standing there. You just don't get the translucent look that real skin has.
The Hollywood Wax Museum has been using Gentle Giant technology over the past few years, when possible, to scan subjects, then have the heads made out of silicone. One of the nicer examples is Hugh Hefner:
This images.google.com link:
http://images.google.com/images?q=%2...hl=en&safe=off
...shows more of the real Hugh Hefner with his dopplganger.
Now to me, that's cheating. Regardless of the outcome, first, it ain't wax, secondly, while there's artistic skill needed to tint the "skin", lay the hair, etc., the sculpting is taken out of the equasion.
Howard does really nice work, and as long as he keeps making things he like and that others appreciate, that's awesome for all parties concerned.
I'm NOT implying that this is the case with Howard, but if all people want is brown-nosers to kiss their feet whenever they toss their pearls before us swine, they might want to just start a new site at www.patontheback.com.
But hey...that's just me...
Steve
Ya know... I don't even know Trap Joe, but this pissing contest is more childish than my second grader.RacerX said:
your yoda looks ok. but the vader likeness is not there.
is that all you have to show, a yoda and a vader? the way you type and judge other ppl work make you sound like you have been sculpting since the dinosaurs!
His initial post may have lacked tact to us American readers, but on the other hand, English apparently is not his first language either. And as I said, opinions are like a**holes - everyone's got one, and a right to have one. But how you demonstrate your opinion (or your a**hole, for that matter) needs to be considered too, as it may not always be welcome, and can be offensive.
That said, the egos in the sculpting/painting niche of our hobby never cease to amaze (or amuse) me. Christ just get it over with and whip out your schlongs, see who's is longer, and move on with life.
PHArchivist said:
Ya know... I don't even know Trap Joe, but this pissing contest is more childish than my second grader.
His initial post may have lacked tact to us American readers, but on the other hand, English apparently is not his first language either. And as I said, opinions are like a**holes - everyone's got one, and a right to have one. But how you demonstrate your opinion (or your a**hole, for that matter) needs to be considered too, as it may not always be welcome, and can be offensive.
That said, the egos in the sculpting/painting niche of our hobby never cease to amaze (or amuse) me. Christ just get it over with and whip out your schlongs, see who's is longer, and move on with life.
relax bro, there's no pissing contest going on here. i just expressed my opinion the same way he did.
Lol. I made more. I live from it. I´m sculpting all my life and as a professional since 1995 :-) I´m a more proud to be an inventor of own charakters than in reproducing someone elses ideas (but i see it as finger exercises and still do practising it in my small leisure time), and am proud of making portraits, waxworks and animatronics. I´m sculpting Star Wars Charakters since 1987, and always tried to find an end doing this, but it seems to be a fountain of youth, and a great fun. Not more. And therefore it´s really great.RacerX said:
your yoda looks ok. but the vader likeness is not there.
is that all you have to show, a yoda and a vader? the way you type and judge other ppl work make you sound like you have been sculpting since the dinosaurs!
Hi Steve great post and outstanding links!!!
Silicone is a great material. I´m making Heads and body parts since 1995 from Silicone, Polyester, resin, foam robber, latex and the results you get from Silicone are the most realistic results you could get.
To the other person who wrote to me a bit frustrated (sorry i forgot the name now) please calm down -this is only a forum, and it´s not about the real business.
It's not the best likeness in the world... I'm pretty proud of it though? I just get a kick out of this place these days... a guy buys a silicone Indy from me and a couple of idiots just tear into it right away... how in the hell do you think that guy feels when he buys something he really likes and people rip on it? No reason to rip into this guys new bust other than ranting and raving in their Mom's basement
I have some class and if I think someones work is wrong, I move to something else instead... but I'm frankly getting pretty pist off at all these nasty comments towards my work! It's lame and I have a right to say what's on my mind too! If you don't like it that's fine... I will stop posting here all together and focus on positive places where artists work together.
What ever to the armchair pros and critics, I have better things to do with my day
H
