Pepper Potts Rescue build, 10/15 full suit pics added
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Ciano930
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Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
Nah not at all foot slid in perfect! hard part was tying my boots laces from inside the foam shins =P was a right pain!!! yeah they're dead strong mad hand pieces!! looking forward to seeing it all together!
Nah not at all foot slid in perfect! hard part was tying my boots laces from inside the foam shins =P was a right pain!!! yeah they're dead strong mad hand pieces!! looking forward to seeing it all together!
red4
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Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
Realistically, boob armor should not protrude and conform to the shape of each individual boob. It should be compressional the same way sport bras are. Otherwise, you've got boobs freely jiggling inside the armor, which can hurt them when you're punched or thrown by a supervillain.
Realistically, boob armor should not protrude and conform to the shape of each individual boob. It should be compressional the same way sport bras are. Otherwise, you've got boobs freely jiggling inside the armor, which can hurt them when you're punched or thrown by a supervillain.
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
"Realistically, you should not actually say that unless you have boobs."
That is exactly what my girlfriend just said after reading your post over my shoulder.
"Realistically, you should not actually say that unless you have boobs."
That is exactly what my girlfriend just said after reading your post over my shoulder.
GhostMinion
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Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
SO CLEAN!!! Your making me JEALOUS!!!
SO CLEAN!!! Your making me JEALOUS!!!
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WOW sorry, didn't realize that was what I posted!!!! How horriblyensee arrogant sounding. Call me master laellee lol....
Anyways, what I meant was this: I have a very rigorous approach to building. This is what I do:
1) Find the suit pattern. Hopefully it's there, and the pieces are done.
2) Scale the hell out of it. (see above)
3) Reunfold almost everything. Everybody has a different build style, mine is goofy and hard but it works. I like starting with JF's work because he's already removed a lot of the nonsense...
4) Print all of my stuff on cardstock. All of it.
5) Before, during, and after the cutting out of those templates, I write on every edge the angle needed. YEAH, I BEVEL EVERYTHING. Ok, not everything, but 90% of my cuts are bevelled. I figure out what I need, and then write it on the edges of my templates so I know what to do when I cut them out..... Which brings me to my next point....
6) I do bevel everything. Well, almost everything. If you look at my foam builds, they have almost no glue showing. That's all bevel work and careful gluing (Read JF's stuff about clean gluing). OCD helps me on this deal, but I bevel anything over 10 degrees to make it clean. Is it a raging pain in the ass? Definitely. Does it make building take three times longer? Not quite but close. The edges of my templates say everything from -0- (no angle) to -45-, depending on the mesh and finish. I also do +30s and +45s on work that the foam can take, but that's just me.
7) I use a box cutter. Yeah, a box cutter. A lot of people picked up the foam mat cutter (made for 45s and whatnot), yeah I did too. Guess what. I don't use it. I don't trust the angle on foam, and the way it's made, the retainer screw for the blade can dig into the foam and leave a line if you're cutting an outside 45 (see above). So, funny thing is, I use it, but only for tight 90 degree cut work. Otherwise, box cutter. And honestly, stop being a cheap *******, all of you. BUY FRESH BLADES. I have a box of 100 single-edge blades next to me at all times. Nevermind saving money, if you want to make your cuts (especially the crazy ones) look good, just get a new blade. Stop ruining beautiful prepwork with cheap laziness.
Anyways, when I saw the post tagged earlier, I nearly got sick to my stomach, because I don't want to be that guy. I just like being part of what gets created everyday, and shared on this forum. Think about it, without this, there would be a lot of lonely wookies and power rangers out there...
Yeah, actually no there wouldn't be loneliness on the Wookie end of things. Google Star Wars Porn. Then think of the Furries.
WOW sorry, didn't realize that was what I posted!!!! How horriblyensee arrogant sounding. Call me master laellee lol....
Anyways, what I meant was this: I have a very rigorous approach to building. This is what I do:
1) Find the suit pattern. Hopefully it's there, and the pieces are done.
2) Scale the hell out of it. (see above)
3) Reunfold almost everything. Everybody has a different build style, mine is goofy and hard but it works. I like starting with JF's work because he's already removed a lot of the nonsense...
4) Print all of my stuff on cardstock. All of it.
5) Before, during, and after the cutting out of those templates, I write on every edge the angle needed. YEAH, I BEVEL EVERYTHING. Ok, not everything, but 90% of my cuts are bevelled. I figure out what I need, and then write it on the edges of my templates so I know what to do when I cut them out..... Which brings me to my next point....
6) I do bevel everything. Well, almost everything. If you look at my foam builds, they have almost no glue showing. That's all bevel work and careful gluing (Read JF's stuff about clean gluing). OCD helps me on this deal, but I bevel anything over 10 degrees to make it clean. Is it a raging pain in the ass? Definitely. Does it make building take three times longer? Not quite but close. The edges of my templates say everything from -0- (no angle) to -45-, depending on the mesh and finish. I also do +30s and +45s on work that the foam can take, but that's just me.
7) I use a box cutter. Yeah, a box cutter. A lot of people picked up the foam mat cutter (made for 45s and whatnot), yeah I did too. Guess what. I don't use it. I don't trust the angle on foam, and the way it's made, the retainer screw for the blade can dig into the foam and leave a line if you're cutting an outside 45 (see above). So, funny thing is, I use it, but only for tight 90 degree cut work. Otherwise, box cutter. And honestly, stop being a cheap *******, all of you. BUY FRESH BLADES. I have a box of 100 single-edge blades next to me at all times. Nevermind saving money, if you want to make your cuts (especially the crazy ones) look good, just get a new blade. Stop ruining beautiful prepwork with cheap laziness.
Anyways, when I saw the post tagged earlier, I nearly got sick to my stomach, because I don't want to be that guy. I just like being part of what gets created everyday, and shared on this forum. Think about it, without this, there would be a lot of lonely wookies and power rangers out there...
Yeah, actually no there wouldn't be loneliness on the Wookie end of things. Google Star Wars Porn. Then think of the Furries.
red4
Sr Member
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
I guess logic coupled with published studies are both wrong. Compressional sport bras do not offer better support during exercise and exertion. They offer less, or indeed none at all, because the more you centralize mass, the more erratic its movement becomes. Of course, decades of physics say the opposite. But I don't have boobs, so what do I know? Or indeed, what do physicists know? Or heck, what do testimonials from other women who corroborate my statement know?
I guess logic coupled with published studies are both wrong. Compressional sport bras do not offer better support during exercise and exertion. They offer less, or indeed none at all, because the more you centralize mass, the more erratic its movement becomes. Of course, decades of physics say the opposite. But I don't have boobs, so what do I know? Or indeed, what do physicists know? Or heck, what do testimonials from other women who corroborate my statement know?
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
WOAH RED, BREATHE!!! My girlfriend would be happy that you responded so hardcore, but she and I already have enough stuff to fight about
I (and she) was not busting down 'logic with published studies' at all. I agree with what you said, OK? Good enough?
Mikey (my girlfriend) has 38DDs, and she only liked the look of the armor because perhaps it would add support for her breasts. As her measurements suggest, she can't fit in this armor
Are sports bras better? Of course they are. But I'm not being paid to build a Pepper Potts rescue suit with no boobies. Otherwise they'd have just commissioned an Extremis I think.
Anyways, no hard feelings I hope, OK? No harm, no foul, I hope.
WOAH RED, BREATHE!!! My girlfriend would be happy that you responded so hardcore, but she and I already have enough stuff to fight about
I (and she) was not busting down 'logic with published studies' at all. I agree with what you said, OK? Good enough?
Mikey (my girlfriend) has 38DDs, and she only liked the look of the armor because perhaps it would add support for her breasts. As her measurements suggest, she can't fit in this armor
Are sports bras better? Of course they are. But I'm not being paid to build a Pepper Potts rescue suit with no boobies. Otherwise they'd have just commissioned an Extremis I think.
Anyways, no hard feelings I hope, OK? No harm, no foul, I hope.
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I LOVE that here is a ongoing discussion of metal boobies on a set of comic book armor!
That is why I come to the RPF. Where else would that take place?
Remember, this armor was designed by Tony Stark for Pepper. I'm pretty sure the design process went like this...
Tony: This looks good. No real offensive weapons, plenty of movement, good durability.
Jarvis: Should I begin construction, sir?
Tony: Not quite yet. It still seems to be missing something. I can't quite put my finger on it...
Jarvis: The design seems quite complete to me sir.
Tony: Boobs!! I got it! It needs pointy metal boobs! I am a genius!
Jarvis: Of course sir, how did you overlook that earlier. I am quite shocked.
Tony: Shut up and start polishing me up some boob armor!
I am pretty sure it went something like that. :lol
I LOVE that here is a ongoing discussion of metal boobies on a set of comic book armor!
That is why I come to the RPF. Where else would that take place?
Remember, this armor was designed by Tony Stark for Pepper. I'm pretty sure the design process went like this...
Tony: This looks good. No real offensive weapons, plenty of movement, good durability.
Jarvis: Should I begin construction, sir?
Tony: Not quite yet. It still seems to be missing something. I can't quite put my finger on it...
Jarvis: The design seems quite complete to me sir.
Tony: Boobs!! I got it! It needs pointy metal boobs! I am a genius!
Jarvis: Of course sir, how did you overlook that earlier. I am quite shocked.
Tony: Shut up and start polishing me up some boob armor!
I am pretty sure it went something like that. :lol
Yrien
Sr Member
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
As a person who has boobs, I agree that this style of boob armour is highly impractical. It directs blows down into the "valley" instead of shedding hits like a curved medieval breastplate would (and if it were made of metal and you happened to fall over forward you'd be in significant danger of breaking your sternum!). I also have no idea what kind of support this style would offer. I imagine it's built exactly to a body scan of Pepper, so it might be okay, but personally I'd prefer something different!
However, I also totally agree that Tony's conversation with Jarvis would have probably been exactly like that, lol. And this build is based on that version, so of course it's going to have boobs.
Gotta say, this build is looking great! I can't wait to see how it turns out! And laellee, thanks for the cutting/gluing advice. It will definitely come in handy when/if I get working on any foam build.
As a person who has boobs, I agree that this style of boob armour is highly impractical. It directs blows down into the "valley" instead of shedding hits like a curved medieval breastplate would (and if it were made of metal and you happened to fall over forward you'd be in significant danger of breaking your sternum!). I also have no idea what kind of support this style would offer. I imagine it's built exactly to a body scan of Pepper, so it might be okay, but personally I'd prefer something different!
However, I also totally agree that Tony's conversation with Jarvis would have probably been exactly like that, lol. And this build is based on that version, so of course it's going to have boobs.
Gotta say, this build is looking great! I can't wait to see how it turns out! And laellee, thanks for the cutting/gluing advice. It will definitely come in handy when/if I get working on any foam build.
Ciano930
Well-Known Member
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
well the way iron man's armour (and Rescue) work is based on tesselated Iron particles held in a rigid shell based around a high density force field. thats why the suit is super flexible and explains why most design issues that would be found in plate armour don't apply to the Iron Man
As a person who has boobs, I agree that this style of boob armour is highly impractical. It directs blows down into the "valley" instead of shedding hits like a curved medieval breastplate would (and if it were made of metal and you happened to fall over forward you'd be in significant danger of breaking your sternum!). I also have no idea what kind of support this style would offer. I imagine it's built exactly to a body scan of Pepper, so it might be okay, but personally I'd prefer something different!
However, I also totally agree that Tony's conversation with Jarvis would have probably been exactly like that, lol. And this build is based on that version, so of course it's going to have boobs.
Gotta say, this build is looking great! I can't wait to see how it turns out! And laellee, thanks for the cutting/gluing advice. It will definitely come in handy when/if I get working on any foam build.
well the way iron man's armour (and Rescue) work is based on tesselated Iron particles held in a rigid shell based around a high density force field. thats why the suit is super flexible and explains why most design issues that would be found in plate armour don't apply to the Iron Man
Yrien
Sr Member
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
Oh, I didn't know that, thanks! I admit, I haven't read any of the comics. I have read some information online, but never read that about the armour. It sounds sufficiently sci-fi high tech.
Oh, I didn't know that, thanks! I admit, I haven't read any of the comics. I have read some information online, but never read that about the armour. It sounds sufficiently sci-fi high tech.
Ciano930
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Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
It changes occasionally from writer to writer and some of the armours such as the MK I or alternate universe Ultimate Iron Man suits use different systems like plate metal etc, but main story iron mans armour is made up of teeny particles of Iron each designed with nanobacterial microchips designed along a high density force field
Oh, I didn't know that, thanks! I admit, I haven't read any of the comics. I have read some information online, but never read that about the armour. It sounds sufficiently sci-fi high tech.
It changes occasionally from writer to writer and some of the armours such as the MK I or alternate universe Ultimate Iron Man suits use different systems like plate metal etc, but main story iron mans armour is made up of teeny particles of Iron each designed with nanobacterial microchips designed along a high density force field
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What's been driving me crazy the most about the 'boob-dillema' is, hilariously enough, the arc reactor. I want a standard size reactor size in the chest, but I have to make sure that there's is boob-to-armor clearance. JA is talking about getting Projectearth's reactor, which is only about 15mm deep, so that'd be great for clearance, but I don't want to cut any dimensions close. The irony here is that, in the end, a sports bra might still be the best choice for the clothing worn underneath just to make sure the wearer doesn't lose any 'wiggle room'.
ANDDDD, along the same lines of comic armor, these models (I believe) were originally pulled from the Marvel vs. Capcom game, so they afford certain liberties that are pretty disproportionate to real bodies. The chest piece is ZERO hassle compared to the boot models, which I'm modifying extensively. The pep model has a pretty high heel, and is very sleek. I love the look, but I want to make sure that the wearer's shoe will fit inside comfortably. THANK GOD that the wearer and my girlfriend have the same shoe size, so I can physically fit a size 6 inside the foam as I build. I'm thinking my final design will be three pieces, with a toe, heel with 1/2 sole, and spat, with velcro closures. Just doing what I can to prevent 'bigfoot syndrome' :facepalm
What's been driving me crazy the most about the 'boob-dillema' is, hilariously enough, the arc reactor. I want a standard size reactor size in the chest, but I have to make sure that there's is boob-to-armor clearance. JA is talking about getting Projectearth's reactor, which is only about 15mm deep, so that'd be great for clearance, but I don't want to cut any dimensions close. The irony here is that, in the end, a sports bra might still be the best choice for the clothing worn underneath just to make sure the wearer doesn't lose any 'wiggle room'.
ANDDDD, along the same lines of comic armor, these models (I believe) were originally pulled from the Marvel vs. Capcom game, so they afford certain liberties that are pretty disproportionate to real bodies. The chest piece is ZERO hassle compared to the boot models, which I'm modifying extensively. The pep model has a pretty high heel, and is very sleek. I love the look, but I want to make sure that the wearer's shoe will fit inside comfortably. THANK GOD that the wearer and my girlfriend have the same shoe size, so I can physically fit a size 6 inside the foam as I build. I'm thinking my final design will be three pieces, with a toe, heel with 1/2 sole, and spat, with velcro closures. Just doing what I can to prevent 'bigfoot syndrome' :facepalm
Re: Pepper Potts Rescue build
Starting to wrap things up....
First off, scratch building the foot. I ended up with a two-piece assembly.
The boot wrap has it's own sole, with the 'tread' side of the matting facing out on the bottom. The sole also hinges at the front of the heel area, so you can flex the sole to slip your shoe in. Then, to prevent the shoes from wandering, I built a matching spat (laying on the top boot above) that velcros to the top of the foot and both rear sides of the heal. This locks the shoe in fairly secure. The foam also has a little give, so a slightly larger shoe could be horned in and still work well I think.
As for the ever-present problem of keeping a boot that has to hold a shoe not looked oversized, I think it's come out well. The split toe forces an extra bit of length, but I didn't want to lose that from the original pep. The spat was velcro'd on without any care, hence it looks a little crooked in the pic:
Next, finally jumped into the reactor port for the chest. I like using plastic bottles/cups for the arc 'container' because they hold the shape better than foam; I ended up using a vinegar bottle bottom, as it came out to 85mm, a little bigger than most reactor diameters. I think it'll work well, I kept the core from extending less than 25mm behind the chest foam.
I also added tear-away seams on the neck and chest, to save a little work on the finishing. I would like to also add a tear-away seam on the side of the abs for fitting. It would have been cool to make a seam up the back and then cover it with a length of velcro-backed spine vertebrate, but then that creates chest-fitting problems. Also just impossible to put on yourself I think
Should be finished up tomorrow, I'll try to get some decent pictures of all the components together. Thanks for looking!
Starting to wrap things up....
First off, scratch building the foot. I ended up with a two-piece assembly.
The boot wrap has it's own sole, with the 'tread' side of the matting facing out on the bottom. The sole also hinges at the front of the heel area, so you can flex the sole to slip your shoe in. Then, to prevent the shoes from wandering, I built a matching spat (laying on the top boot above) that velcros to the top of the foot and both rear sides of the heal. This locks the shoe in fairly secure. The foam also has a little give, so a slightly larger shoe could be horned in and still work well I think.
As for the ever-present problem of keeping a boot that has to hold a shoe not looked oversized, I think it's come out well. The split toe forces an extra bit of length, but I didn't want to lose that from the original pep. The spat was velcro'd on without any care, hence it looks a little crooked in the pic:
Next, finally jumped into the reactor port for the chest. I like using plastic bottles/cups for the arc 'container' because they hold the shape better than foam; I ended up using a vinegar bottle bottom, as it came out to 85mm, a little bigger than most reactor diameters. I think it'll work well, I kept the core from extending less than 25mm behind the chest foam.
I also added tear-away seams on the neck and chest, to save a little work on the finishing. I would like to also add a tear-away seam on the side of the abs for fitting. It would have been cool to make a seam up the back and then cover it with a length of velcro-backed spine vertebrate, but then that creates chest-fitting problems. Also just impossible to put on yourself I think
Should be finished up tomorrow, I'll try to get some decent pictures of all the components together. Thanks for looking!
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....And the suit parts are finished!
Not the greatest pictures, but they get the gist of the suit across. The faceplate of the helmet is only set in place, so it's not fit flush, but I did fasten some lengths of medium-grade wire stock to the back of it to help maintain shape. Once glued in, the wires can be bent as needed to get the faceplate shaped to the helmet base. I also didn't section the main helmet body. The flexibility of the foam will allow a smaller head to squeeze in by flexing it somewhat.
Almost all of the parts shown are from the JFcustom unfold file group, believe they were developed during this thread:
http://www.therpf.com/f24/pepper-po...-iron-man-pep-files-anyone-160319/index2.html
I did modify the boots significantly for fit, and converted the chest to hold a standard size reactor rather than the teeny-tiny original design. I also added modified Robomark3687 mark 4/6 handplates, and added a freehand 'underbib' to fill the area between the chest panel and the neck wrap. The neck wrap, chest, and abdomen section also have tear-away velcro seams added along one side. I think I'll need to add one to the cod as well before this goes anywhere, I just hate cutting a complete piece
Fun build, and it looks good proportionately, not too bulky or exaggeratedly Coke-bottle shaped either. :thumbsup
Thanks for look'n!
....And the suit parts are finished!
Not the greatest pictures, but they get the gist of the suit across. The faceplate of the helmet is only set in place, so it's not fit flush, but I did fasten some lengths of medium-grade wire stock to the back of it to help maintain shape. Once glued in, the wires can be bent as needed to get the faceplate shaped to the helmet base. I also didn't section the main helmet body. The flexibility of the foam will allow a smaller head to squeeze in by flexing it somewhat.
Almost all of the parts shown are from the JFcustom unfold file group, believe they were developed during this thread:
http://www.therpf.com/f24/pepper-po...-iron-man-pep-files-anyone-160319/index2.html
I did modify the boots significantly for fit, and converted the chest to hold a standard size reactor rather than the teeny-tiny original design. I also added modified Robomark3687 mark 4/6 handplates, and added a freehand 'underbib' to fill the area between the chest panel and the neck wrap. The neck wrap, chest, and abdomen section also have tear-away velcro seams added along one side. I think I'll need to add one to the cod as well before this goes anywhere, I just hate cutting a complete piece
Fun build, and it looks good proportionately, not too bulky or exaggeratedly Coke-bottle shaped either. :thumbsup
Thanks for look'n!
lol:lol I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out! :facepalm What's that saying, can't see the forest for the trees...Oh well, it happens.
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