Jul 12, 2012, 12:21 PM - Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
I would like to know how to paint the foam correctly and how much money it will takes for all the suit. (and how many times approx.)
Thanks for your answers!
A little look at my suit...
Jul 12, 2012, 12:26 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
The foam needs to be sealed first, using either PVA glue or Plasti-Dip. Cost will vary depending on what you use. Once each piece has been sealed, three to four coats should do it, then you can prime and paint.
Jul 12, 2012, 2:31 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Jul 12, 2012, 9:14 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
use the pva (wood glue) or actual mod podge. pick your paint. do however man coats it take and do 1-2 coats podge to seal it.
no one ever told me to seal it after painting and i got cracks everywhere. after i podged it, i got no more cracks.
just like painting a car. prep, paint, seal
btw. you cant get plasti-dip in canada anymore, it is against our VOC emission rules.
and why spend $20 on 1 can of plasti when you can spend $14 on podge, and its clear
and i should be doing a paint tutorial soon.
Jul 12, 2012, 9:18 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Damn that looks awesome knowing that it is foam just multiplies that by 1,000,000
Jul 13, 2012, 5:08 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Thanks for your advices, but I decide to not color it Red and Gold. I prefer Silver color, like for the Mark 2. I would like the same result than this :
is it possible?
Jul 13, 2012, 9:39 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
yes you can pant it what ever colour your want but it still has to be sealed first, if you want it to look all seamless then you will have to plastic coat it or rondo it after its sealed.
Jul 14, 2012, 8:13 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
i use pva glue on my suit before painting
6 or 7 coats of PVA glue diluyed on water ,no more of 10% of water
and paint with titan metalic spray red colour (655) its more darker of candy red ,but is very shiny under the sun light
Jul 15, 2012, 5:27 AM -
You've got a lot of good answer here.
However, I want to clarify something - Mod Podge and PVA glue are not exactly the same thing.
From comments I've seen on my tutorials and based on STEALTH foam armor tutorials - these 2 products don't behave in the same way. If you go with PVA glue, you'll have to thin it with water (to a milk-like consistency) and apply a lot of coats (STEALTH suggests 5 in his tutorial). As for Mod Podge, I would avoid it completely - it is not flexible enough when dry to make a durable finish for foam armor (that's my opinion).
I've been using a different product for years and only had good result with it - but it's a bit more expensive (and harder to find) ... and it will give your similar result of using PVA glue (but I need to appley less coat). The product I'm referring to is Flexbond from the company Rosco.
Lately I've been ordering from these guys:
Regardless of the product you'll be using - the process is the same.
As Grave mentionned already - you need to seel the foam first (PVA), then paint, then use a top coat.
If you want an even more durable paintjob, then you can seal over the paint again and then apply the top coat as the last step.
Finally - as for your last post question... I don't think you can acheive the same result. The armor pictures looks like a resin cast and if it is, then it has very different properties than your foam armor. The foam you've used seems to have a very strong texture... so even after all the sealing and painting - this will still show through and might not look good in a silver/chrome only setup.
Best advise we could give you - is try it out on foam scraps first.
Then you'll see exactly what your suit will look like after the whole process and you can decide to continue with the silver or go with red and gold.
Jul 15, 2012, 8:22 AM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
The arm piece looks to be resin, but the chest piece is foam that has been plastic coated.
Jul 15, 2012, 1:22 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Hello, that's mine - it was PVA and Plastidip and then grey primer. This was made long before I did the tests on plastic coating.
Kevin Gossett said:
All my stuff is here for reference: XRobots.co.uk - Iron Man MkVI Armour
Jul 15, 2012, 1:31 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
If I leave only the grey primer and I don't add new paint on it, is it ok or not recommended?
Jul 15, 2012, 2:47 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
If you like it thats all that matters at the end of the day. There are no rules when prop making. Check my thread out and see how It is possible to get an awesome finish on foam. I also use modpodge so and It works perfect but You dont have to take my word for it my work speaks for itself. Dont be afraid to experiment and try new things u dnt have to listen when people say u shouldnt cuz I sure dont. Its all for funhttp://http://www.therpf.com/f24/iro...oulder-149883/
Jul 15, 2012, 6:13 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Thanks for all your answers! I will try soon and update this topic to say the result that I choose! (And add a picture)
Jul 28, 2012, 4:30 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Hi, I begin to seal the foam, but I noticed that the surface of my foam (after 5 layers of wood glue with water) was rough and not smouth. I watch the video of TheHeroTutorial for painting foam and after 5 layers all seems smooth and shinny for his biceps foam. Mine doesn't.
P.S: When i finish the first layer I must wait the glue to disappear to apply the second layer? Because thats what i did for all the layers. Is that okay?
Thanks for yours answers
Here is a picture of my rough biceps:
Jul 28, 2012, 4:44 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Jul 28, 2012, 4:53 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
StyroSpray1000 check my build thread for details
Jul 28, 2012, 5:13 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
since many threads fall off the first page, its better to provide a direct link.
Jul 28, 2012, 5:36 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
just use mod podge and cut out all the bull$#!%. ive tried lots of stuff. but unless you are going to plastic coat it like xrobot. just use what has been used for decades and has been proven to work every time.
Aug 10, 2012, 11:30 AM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Is this possible? Will it look good?
sealed with mod podge
spray painted with auto paint and gloss top coat
coated with fibreglass (polyester) resin
I've started, and painted a few parts, but not satisfied with the result. If I go back over it and do it again, I was thinking of sanding down the top layers of paint a bit, and applying resin for a smoother finish, then repaint.
I know polyester resin will corrode foam, but what if it's used after the foam is sealed with glue/podge/paint? Just wondering because it's easier for me to access polyester than epoxy.
Ideally, the layers would be foam-glue-primer-resin-paint-gloss
Aug 10, 2012, 11:48 AM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
It will look as good as your skills will let it.
If you go the resin route you will need to most likely include bodyfiller and a lot of sanding into the process.
As with all things like this, if you have a good build quality to start with it shows through in the end product. If you have scabby glue seams and don't rework them, then they'll show through too.
The layers would be:- Foam, Glue, Resin, Filler, Primer, Paint, Clear coat.
Aug 10, 2012, 12:04 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Thanks. I'll keep this in mind. Likely won't be able to do resin on my current build, though, considering this. Doesn't really matter for now, as it's my first build and being done in a major rush to be completed in 2 weeks time for a convention. I'm calling it my Mark 1. Once I wear it, find problems that need to be fixed, etc, I plan to re-do in EVA foam, and will try the resin and filler.
Does bondo make the piece heavy, though? I've heard it adds quite a bit of weight. I really don't want something heavy because I'm a weakling and won't be able to handle even a partial girly suit. Also, I know it takes quite a bit of time unless you use power tools, and unless my roommate will help me, I can't use his tools and probably don't know how to anyway. :/
Aug 10, 2012, 12:19 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Bondo is heavy if used to build up large areas with thick layers, if you have to do this you built your part wrong.
Tools help but they are not needed. Use thin layers which are easier to work by hand.
Remember, scabs can always be made to look like battle damage.
Aug 10, 2012, 1:11 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
excellent advice. Alot of people think bondo is supposed to be globbed on which is so wrong. Its just for filling small imperfections Not change the whole look of your piece. So Rebo is correct that it all depends on how well you put your piece together. Thats why take your time building it or waste double time fixing it.
Aug 10, 2012, 1:17 PM - Re: Painting foam armor (Iron man Mark VI)
Thanks so much guys. Sorry, OP for kinda hijacking your thread, but it was a related question!
My glue is a bit scabby, but I'm not going to care too much about it for my first build. It's really just a test prototype to me. Simply trying to do it as fast as possible, since I had to change and adjust a LOT of things from the original pep. Won't be perfect but will be good enough for a test run.
I think my glue problem is probably because I used the 1/8" craft foam instead of thicker plastazote or EVA. Will go with thicker foam next time. I've been unable to score some of the folds, so I've got a sort of...round, bubbly shape going.
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