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    Oct 25, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1026

    Unbelievably perfect!
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    Oct 25, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1027

    Gorgeous work!!
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1028

    Good grief, Leigh, you maniac.

    I thought I was too numb from the awesomeness by now to muster another 'oh my god', but I was mistaken. Oh my god.
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1029

    Good on ya mate, it would have bugged you for ever if you hadn't done it! Bravo!!!
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1030

    Many thanks Guy's

    Heres the jaw & its gap fillet all in one colour. I have some fine cracks to fill due to the shrinkage of the air dry clay, a bit of sanding & another paint before I consider it done.
    I bought some Latex today so I'll be having some fun with that at some point too I might just knock up some lips n tendons roughly just to see how he looks



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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1031

    Oh god man, you're killing me here, lol...stop teasing! It's good, it's as good as done at least, it is cooked, do your surfacing fixes but please don't put off the moulds too much longer. I live in terror of your cat knocking it off the table or something. A mould is insurance.
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1032

    Nwerke said: View Post
    Oh god man, you're killing me here, lol...stop teasing! It's good, it's as good as done at least, it is cooked, do your surfacing fixes but please don't put off the moulds too much longer. I live in terror of your cat knocking it off the table or something. A mould is insurance.
    Yeh, the cats worry me a little too but I do try to give it the best chance. I usually take him appart if I'm not working on him, ie at night etc. The base/chest/neck is all sound as a pound I'd be very supprised if the cats could actually knock it over, they could climb all over it, it can definately take the weight.
    The jaw is removed with the head & is mostly resin, if it falls from the top of the sideboard it may loose a tooth but that can easily be glued back on.
    The head is the worry! when its stowed its rested on a big foam block & its also supported from under the rear. Its quite stable but it could end up on the floor

    I would actually like to get the head moulded first but I've been advised to get the practise from moulding the less important parts first, which makes perfect sence to me.

    I'm also beginning to think it may be a better idea to cast him in Polyester rather than Polyurethane. As I understand it, Polyester with glass would be stronger & less likely to deform. The problem I'll have with that though is how to lay up fiberglass in a mould with no access once its assembled??? I dont want large flash lines to clean up???
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1033

    if your castings match your sculpting ability, this thing is going to be legendary
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1034

    Rotocast urethane resin with expanding urethane foam filling added later would be quite unlikely to deform and a lot less hassle. You don't have to waste cans of the expensive hardware store spray-bomb kind, I know you have a decent supplier so maybe ask them about the stuff. I used to get it in 1-litre tins, there should also be bigger kits available.

    That said, fibreglass would certainly be very strong. There is an art to it, though. You first lay up a layer of gelcoat, then several layers of glass matting and resin, letting each cure thoroughly before the next.

    You'll hate the stench. Your wife will hate the stench. Your neighbours will hate the stench. You will be unpopular with the whole street.

    It will also take a lot longer for each casting. And then you demould...and find that there are weird frizzy stocking-run lines all through the gelcoat, and voids and gaps and holes that need to be puttied, and delaminations.

    Fibreglass is a *****!
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1035

    Clutch said: View Post
    if your castings match your sculpting ability, this thing is going to be legendary
    I really hope your right Thanks

    Nwerke said: View Post
    Rotocast urethane resin with expanding urethane foam filling added later would be quite unlikely to deform and a lot less hassle. You don't have to waste cans of the expensive hardware store spray-bomb kind, I know you have a decent supplier so maybe ask them about the stuff. I used to get it in 1-litre tins, there should also be bigger kits available.

    That said, fibreglass would certainly be very strong. There is an art to it, though. You first lay up a layer of gelcoat, then several layers of glass matting and resin, letting each cure thoroughly before the next.

    You'll hate the stench. Your wife will hate the stench. Your neighbours will hate the stench. You will be unpopular with the whole street.

    It will also take a lot longer for each casting. And then you demould...and find that there are weird frizzy stocking-run lines all through the gelcoat, and voids and gaps and holes that need to be puttied, and delaminations.

    Fibreglass is a *****!
    OK back to Urethane it is then! Thanks
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1036

    Can't you use the same silicon mould for both urethane and fiberglass casting? Might be fun to experiment. He might end up being a miraculous fiberglass prodigy as well.

    Nick
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1037

    Clutch said: View Post
    if your castings match your sculpting ability, this thing is going to be legendary
    Agreed although I think the sculpting is already legendary.Again very impressive work Leigh!!
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    Oct 26, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1038

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    I really hope your right Thanks



    OK back to Urethane it is then! Thanks
    Of course...urethane rotocasting can be a ***** too, just in different ways.

    It does have the virtue of being a lot faster, at least.
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    Oct 29, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1039

    I think I'm gonna smash my current casting with a hammer. lol! It has that stupid dip in the dome like all the rest. I get all emotional every time I see this literally organic sculpt. The only other thing that I think will bring tears to my eyes is the exchange rate when this puppy goes up in the JY!
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    Oct 29, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1040

    Clutch said: View Post
    I think I'm gonna smash my current casting with a hammer. lol! It has that stupid dip in the dome like all the rest. I get all emotional every time I see this literally organic sculpt. The only other thing that I think will bring tears to my eyes is the exchange rate when this puppy goes up in the JY!
    Would be interesting if Leigh's dome could be used on the cast from original pieces as well.
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    Oct 30, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1041

    yeah I hate that "dip" in the dome on my original casting. I keep saying some day I'll pursue having it remade. It would improve the casting greatly!!!! I'm sure Leigh will knock his out of the park!!!
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    Nov 2, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1042

    Amazing build
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    Nov 2, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1043

    this threads been going longer than ive been visiting this site and it is outstanding to see you strive to perfection when 97% of people would have called it finished a long time ago
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    Nov 2, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1044

    I'm truly humbled by this thread. It's a testament to your passion and perfection. You represent everything that the RPF stands for. Kudos to you. I keep seeing updates...wondering when the molding process will begin, and then you see an imperfection and correct it. That my friends - is determination.

    Keep up the updates...and know that you have a cult following here...kudos once again...
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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1045

    WOW! Thanks for all the kind words folks

    Clutch: Dont smash anything up!!
    I dont think my dome (when its made) will fit anything else, well I'd be very supprised if it did however I guess a new dome could be made for the other heads without the dip maybe

    I've been busy here n there, I've changed a couple of bits & I need your opinion's if possible before I move on

    As I've dropped the height of the neck at the rear & to help the leaning forward pose I've added some wrinkles to his neck. I think they look OK but I'm not 100% sure on the shape of them
    What do you think:





    I guess the bit I'm not too sure about would be the way the wrinkles turn downward at the ends near the tube?

    & I've also remade his lower throat again to more resemble how Giger originally sculpted it rather than how it was towards the end of the film.

    I would'nt mind your views on this aswell





    Theres a couple of other MINOR mods I want to make & then I can start with the smoothing & texturing etc

    Thanks again
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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1046

    Only keep one groove and have the area above and below bulge out a bit.

    Here's a bad photoshop example. Hope it makes sense.
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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1047

    Thanks Too Much Garlic

    I thought I'd better post a couple more pics from a different angle before I commit to any changes





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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1048

    A thought:
    Last edited by Too Much Garlic; Nov 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM.
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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1049

    Too Much Garlic said: View Post
    A thought:
    Yeh, that does look better Thanks
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    Nov 3, 2012 - Re: Bob the Alien (Giger inspired Alien) #1050

    Totally awesome detail study dude, and I continue to admire your improvements as you go along....but that said....I have no real need for a bust like this, heck I'm not even sure I'd have the have the room for it...

    Yea...Who am I kidding?
    I need, ahem...'want' this, and will make room for it assuming of course you go that route!

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