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    Aug 12, 2012 - 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #1

    For a while now I've wanted to make a 1:4 'Premium Format' style Peter Cushing as Van Helsing, from the 1958 version of 'Dracula'.

    My plan is to sculpt the head based on the slightly fuller-faced younger Cushing, custom make all the clothing, bag, vampire hunting kit and so on:



    I've made a start over a few hours tonight, the sculpt is really rough at the moment but hopefully the likeness is beginning to show?



    I'll update this thread as I progress if there is any interest in me doing so?

    Please let me know what you think so far, constructive criticism welcomed!

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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #2

    Looks pretty good Al; the only critique I'd make is that the lower half of his face seems a bit narrow (looking at your screencap especially). Seems a bit more 1970's.

    Love the idea though
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    Aug 12, 2012 - #3

    Agreed with Mr. creepy - but wow, nice work!


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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #4

    Thanks guys, yeah I totally agree. I've just tried to fix that by adding a bit more width to the lower face, hopefully he looks more 1958 now?





    Obviously, the finer detail still needs to be added, in particular the eyes which are lazy at the moment - I haven't worked on those much yet, but I think the basic facial structure is there now? If you see anything that's way off to your eye, please do let me know.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #5

    Oh yeah, that's it; the brow ridge might be a bit pronounced, but I can d[FONT=Verdana]efinitely see the "chubbier" Cushing there! [/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana]BTW, I meant to ask earlier, but what are you using for the sculpt and eyes?[/FONT]
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #6

    I'm using super sculpey for the sculpt.

    For the base figure, I'm using a quarter scale figure body which I've modified to be better proportionally. I've dremmelled the original head features away and I'm sculpting around the remains.

    Glad to hear it's headed in the right direction, thanks for that. I've continued to tweak away at the sculpt since the last batch of pics were taken - I'll try to get some more up soon. Yeah, the brow ridge is a little too pronounced, thanks for that - I'll fix it.

    Gotta sleep now though or I'LL be like a vampire in the morning!

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    Aug 13, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #7

    A fantastic likeness already!
    No mean feat at that scale.
    I was privileged to attend a BFI Q&A with him in his later years. Unforgettable.
    Good to see Hammer represented.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #8

    So cool that you met him in person, I would've loved that!

    A bit more progress last night:

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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #9

    Extremely nice work. 1/4 scale is very challenging.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #10

    WOW

    The nose really sells it
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    Aug 16, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #11

    Thanks guys. I've made some good progress over the last day or so, should have more pics to share shortly.
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    Aug 17, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #12

    More progress pics. One step forward and two steps back in a sense, but I am managing to refine the detail somewhat. It's not right yet though, still loads to do to perfect this. I won't be satisfied until it's perfect.

    It's pretty tough sculpting in this small scale and not cartoonising the features. I'm really trying to avoid that, particularly with Peter's cheek structure.

    Anyway, here's where I am at. I'd really appreciate any feedback, observations, criticisms and so forth:





    Tiring of cheekbones, I started on some accessories last night:



    How would you like your stake sir?
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    Aug 18, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #13

    Yet more progress pics. Lot's of hours going into this, but I think I'm in danger of overthinking it. I might have a day or two away from it and come back with fresh eyes. Here's where I am at right now:



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    Aug 19, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #14

    Cool subject, Cushing is a legend. Looking at where the sculpt is now could I suggest something? I get the feeling that what may be knocking the likeness off line right now more than anything else is the eyes. Roughly I'd say in reality the vertical distance on the visible part of his iris is about half the vertical distance from his nose to mouth. On the sculpt it is only about a third, so they are way too small.



    Also the ears look like they could do with being bigger and higher.



    Maybe with the eyes and ears enlarged the rest of the head proportions might be easier to wrangle into shape?
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    Aug 19, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #15

    Thanks Columbo for your critique, I completely agree! I am working on those areas right now.

    Nice reference pics too.
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    Aug 19, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #16

    Resculpted the eyes and moved the ears higher up. Looking at the most recent photos, I still think the ears need to go up a fraction further.

    Overall, I think it's looking better. I still see several areas which need improvement, as demonstrated here:





    Thoughts? Are there any other aspects (not noted in the diagram) which I should work on? Aside from the crappy sculpey crucifix that is. Will be using a metal crucifix for the final statue.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #17

    ob1al said: View Post
    Thanks Columbo for your critique, I completely agree! I am working on those areas right now.

    Nice reference pics too.
    Looks to be going well in latest photos. Reviewing those I picked up on a few points.

    1. The hairline is too high. It also looks off centre. The front lowest part should be directly above the nose and sweep up in a broad V from there.

    2. The brow bones are too far off horizontal. The slope from inner end to outer should be very slight.

    3. The nose is too short. Distance from corner of eye down to where side loop of nostril starts needs to be further.


    Its tricky to judge from photos that are 3/4 view but to my eye these areas would benefit from a little adjustment.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #18

    Cool sculpt. I think I would also broaden the chin and bottom of the jaw a little, as it is looking rather pointy right now. He's bony, but definitely not a narrow skull.

    Making the eyebrow ridges above the eyes more straight rather than angling downwards out towards the ears, will also bring the likeness closer, as currently, he just looks somewhat sad.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #19

    Thanks for the input gentlemen, much appreciated.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #20

    I've had a eureka moment on this one. Actually started the entire head again from scratch, I know what I'm doing now after struggling with Cushing's likeness for so long. Really want to thank you guys for the input, it has been most helpful!

    Give me a couple of days to work on him and I'll share the new (V2) pics.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #21

    Oh... okay. I admire someone who has the guts to start over when a sculpt in progress goes somewhat sour, instead of treading on with the old sculpt that may be beyond improving. Though... the latter, the guy plowing on and getting the likeness in the end is also admirable.

    Looking forward to the new iteration. Honestly, an idea I had was to basically sculpt the skull shape first and then bake that and then build on top of that. It's a pretty silly approach, perhaps, but I've been getting pretty good results with it in terms of overall head shape and features before going into the detailing. The fact that I then ultimately such at getting the detailing right is another matter entirely.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #22

    That's pretty much what I'm doing Carsten - I'm using super sculpey and my technique is to make a layer, bake a layer then build on that. The V1 sculpt would be salvageable if I hadn't cooked most of it, but the details I need to change are pretty fundamental so carving stuff away and rebuilding would be a pain in the arse. Easier to start anew with lots of lessons learned from the intial sculpt, the process should be a lot quicker now.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #23

    Oh... that may be a bad idea. I've definitely not had much success with continually baking super sculpey after having added new layers to already baked Sculpey. It tends to crack, as the new layer stretches and shrinks differently than the already baked piece.

    Was advised to put the sculpt in the freezer overnight and then bake it once it's gotten back to room temperature - something about the material bonding better in the cold and staying in shape when ultimately baked. However, I have NOT had the chance to test that out, so I really can't say if it works.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #24

    I've kind of got the technique figured out though. I only bake the INNER (ie skull) layer then bake when I think I'm nigh on finished again, perhaps with only a few details to add. Second time around I use a heat gun or hair dryer to bake the piece. It works.
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    Aug 20, 2012 - Re: 1:4 scale Peter Cushing as Van Helsing sculpt - a WIP #25

    Ah... cool. I'm going to try that next time. Thanks man.
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