Tron Legacy Movie Review
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I saw it and really enjoyed it. Visually gorgeous, the film delivers a pretty solid story that left me wanting more, not less. I may be in the minority, but I would have been fine if the movie was longer and Tron had more screen time. Sure, there were parts of the story that left me scratching my head, but there were just as many scenes that were well executed.
YCL, I didn't see a preview, it's opened here already.
CTF, I have to say that CLU and Young Kevin are both pretty ordinary, aren't they? I don't know if this is the state of the art for human characters or not or what but I did expect a bit more, got to admit. Still a fair bit of Uncanny Valley going on with the eyes and textures.
"Messing with my Zen thing" got a big laugh...
CTF, I have to say that CLU and Young Kevin are both pretty ordinary, aren't they? I don't know if this is the state of the art for human characters or not or what but I did expect a bit more, got to admit. Still a fair bit of Uncanny Valley going on with the eyes and textures.
"Messing with my Zen thing" got a big laugh...
OldKen
Master Member
I seriously wished they would have filled in the blanks more than filling in the CLU-LESS kids that hadn't seen the original. Too much time trying to explain the original movie. Not enough spent on what was going on.
CLU should've been fleshed out more as a character and less as a CGI element. DIDN'T CLU have a frakkin helmet? They didn't need to show the closeups of the bad CGI as much as they did. Coulda used a more artistic angle and showed Kev/CLU in the distance, head turned, helmet on, or in a shadow more than they did.
It's like they spent most of the time showing off a technology that wasn't there yet.
As a movie. I thought it was an awesome thrillride. Better than Avatar. (in more than just the thrillride aspect)
As a followup to something that was monumentus to some... I personally think it was better than the Prequel trilogy.
In my old age filled with letdowns of my beloved franchises...
I enjoyed it. I really did.
Tomorrow I may have a different oppinion! :angel
CLU should've been fleshed out more as a character and less as a CGI element. DIDN'T CLU have a frakkin helmet? They didn't need to show the closeups of the bad CGI as much as they did. Coulda used a more artistic angle and showed Kev/CLU in the distance, head turned, helmet on, or in a shadow more than they did.
It's like they spent most of the time showing off a technology that wasn't there yet.
As a movie. I thought it was an awesome thrillride. Better than Avatar. (in more than just the thrillride aspect)
As a followup to something that was monumentus to some... I personally think it was better than the Prequel trilogy.
In my old age filled with letdowns of my beloved franchises...
I enjoyed it. I really did.
Tomorrow I may have a different oppinion! :angel
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neosporing
Sr Member
SPOILERS BELOW:
no joke, the young cgi flynn was embarrassingly bad. like 1970's planet of the apes mouth moving bad. and this 'uncanny' flynn had so much face time...
no tanks, no spiders, no epic 'guided' frisbee battles, no butt-cracks... the suits were all 'bubble-butts' not unlike the mr. conehead in the shower rear-end, what a shame. no 'bits'
the lightcycle scene was of course amazing... then 45 min of two heads talking... then off camera frisbee battles, then bah... not even worth explaining, i'm going to bed... dude... the big lobowski ...
oh the tron evolution game tied in perfectly, i felt like quorra was talking about all of my efforts in the video game. i did enjoy them getting that right. nite nite...
seriously, if you've seen the trailers, you've seen just about every cool scene in the film...
cry gah 3 am i have to get up in 2.4 hours.....Erase me!!!
no joke, the young cgi flynn was embarrassingly bad. like 1970's planet of the apes mouth moving bad. and this 'uncanny' flynn had so much face time...
no tanks, no spiders, no epic 'guided' frisbee battles, no butt-cracks... the suits were all 'bubble-butts' not unlike the mr. conehead in the shower rear-end, what a shame. no 'bits'
the lightcycle scene was of course amazing... then 45 min of two heads talking... then off camera frisbee battles, then bah... not even worth explaining, i'm going to bed... dude... the big lobowski ...
oh the tron evolution game tied in perfectly, i felt like quorra was talking about all of my efforts in the video game. i did enjoy them getting that right. nite nite...
seriously, if you've seen the trailers, you've seen just about every cool scene in the film...
cry gah 3 am i have to get up in 2.4 hours.....Erase me!!!
nickytea
Master Member
It's a shame that the technological boldness of the effects choices made in regard to de-aging seems to be the focus of so much discussion about this movie already.
This movie is dealing with seriously incredible concepts, in a narrative that is balanced and thematically succinct. Pretty glorious, actually. I can't wait to see this one again.
This movie is dealing with seriously incredible concepts, in a narrative that is balanced and thematically succinct. Pretty glorious, actually. I can't wait to see this one again.
Well, I waited 20+ years and I'm going to put my 2 cents in like everyone else. Warning... this is a long post and has a lot of nit-picking in it and a LOT of spoilers.
TL: DR version upfront : Decent movie that was to long with a lot of wasted potential.
Dialogue : Terrible. There were a lot of unnecessary lines that just made me roll my eyes. It seemed as if the script assumed the audience understood NOTHING and needed some "yuck yuck" lines for laughs.
Pacing : Why throw everything I wanted to see up front and then give me nothing but metaphysical junk filler until the ending? The disc wars and light cycles should have been seperated by more than CLU meeting Sam. TRON (original) was a flawed movie for sure, but I think the pacing was much better.
Something is nothing : Flynn's light cycle, the tanks, Rinzler's sudden epiphany, programs seeing Flynn as a god... these were all alluded to, but never realized. I'd like to have seen the tanks shell the crap out of the EOL club. I'd like to have seen "the fastest thing on the grid" be just that. What prompted Rinzler to redeem himself? We get a glimpse at the resistance and how programs view Flynn at the EOL club... briefly.
Overall plot : I don't buy it and I think it's to "out there" even for a movie about people being inside a computer. Someone earlier mentioned the Matrix and that's exactly how I feel about the story here. It's to complex and unnecessary.
Summary : I didn't hate the movie and thought it was alright. The visuals were fantastic, the action was pretty tight overall and the parts that worked, worked really well.
Extra mention : While young Flynn was "off", I thought it was a solid effort and didn't detract from the movie for me.
EDITED : Removed the spiritual bit because I didn't complete the sentence and can't remember what my train of thought was.
TL: DR version upfront : Decent movie that was to long with a lot of wasted potential.
Dialogue : Terrible. There were a lot of unnecessary lines that just made me roll my eyes. It seemed as if the script assumed the audience understood NOTHING and needed some "yuck yuck" lines for laughs.
Pacing : Why throw everything I wanted to see up front and then give me nothing but metaphysical junk filler until the ending? The disc wars and light cycles should have been seperated by more than CLU meeting Sam. TRON (original) was a flawed movie for sure, but I think the pacing was much better.
Something is nothing : Flynn's light cycle, the tanks, Rinzler's sudden epiphany, programs seeing Flynn as a god... these were all alluded to, but never realized. I'd like to have seen the tanks shell the crap out of the EOL club. I'd like to have seen "the fastest thing on the grid" be just that. What prompted Rinzler to redeem himself? We get a glimpse at the resistance and how programs view Flynn at the EOL club... briefly.
Overall plot : I don't buy it and I think it's to "out there" even for a movie about people being inside a computer. Someone earlier mentioned the Matrix and that's exactly how I feel about the story here. It's to complex and unnecessary.
Summary : I didn't hate the movie and thought it was alright. The visuals were fantastic, the action was pretty tight overall and the parts that worked, worked really well.
Extra mention : While young Flynn was "off", I thought it was a solid effort and didn't detract from the movie for me.
EDITED : Removed the spiritual bit because I didn't complete the sentence and can't remember what my train of thought was.
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"but let's"...?
Entirely agree on Flynn's lightcycle - clear buildup to something, as was Sam's grabbing the spare pair of new-lightcycle handlebars. It's as if a second lightcycle chase scene was deleted, but the setup for it was kept.
Disagree on Flynn's status. He's the creator, Sam is the saviour. Bridges gets the full-on Moses look, he's all but carrying a pair of tablets. Then you have the light moving on the face of the waters at the end, the obvious dualism, the otherwise meaningless statement that CLU has the power to corrupt, but not to create, etc etc. I thought all the religious stuff paid off about as much as it needed to: the users are the gods of this world. Point made.
Rinzler's epiphany was irritatingly abrupt. There was just no trigger for it at all, as far as I could see. Then what happened to him - did he just sink and die?
I'd have loved to see the tanks get more action.
You're not talking about plot, you're talking about premise and setting. You kind of have no choice but to buy the premise if you go see this thing; it's TRON, for heaven's sakes.
Entirely agree on Flynn's lightcycle - clear buildup to something, as was Sam's grabbing the spare pair of new-lightcycle handlebars. It's as if a second lightcycle chase scene was deleted, but the setup for it was kept.
Disagree on Flynn's status. He's the creator, Sam is the saviour. Bridges gets the full-on Moses look, he's all but carrying a pair of tablets. Then you have the light moving on the face of the waters at the end, the obvious dualism, the otherwise meaningless statement that CLU has the power to corrupt, but not to create, etc etc. I thought all the religious stuff paid off about as much as it needed to: the users are the gods of this world. Point made.
Rinzler's epiphany was irritatingly abrupt. There was just no trigger for it at all, as far as I could see. Then what happened to him - did he just sink and die?
I'd have loved to see the tanks get more action.
You're not talking about plot, you're talking about premise and setting. You kind of have no choice but to buy the premise if you go see this thing; it's TRON, for heaven's sakes.
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Yeah, edited. Didn't complete my thought and can't remember what it was now. :lol
You're not talking about plot, you're talking about premise and setting. You kind of have no choice but to buy the premise if you go see this thing; it's TRON, for heaven's sakes.
I suppose the plot was about Sam getting out, but the ISOs thing really bothered me. They're not explained enough. We have programs that appeared in the computer from nowhere and are the answer to all of mankinds problems? How? Why? Some how Flynn figured out how to materialize a living human out of a program? How? Why?
Yes, yes... I know. Living beings in a computer... I'm overanalyzing, but it still pestered me. :lol
Well, here's one reading of that question:
Both Guns Drawn: `TRON Legacy' as Allegory - CraveOnline.com
Not really one that particularly grabbed my attention, I have to admit. Honestly, I think all of that stuff - status of ISOs vs programmes - is a little muddled and diffuse.
(Kinda knackered right now, so perhaps that's better as a description of my own state of mind, lol.)
Both Guns Drawn: `TRON Legacy' as Allegory - CraveOnline.com
Not really one that particularly grabbed my attention, I have to admit. Honestly, I think all of that stuff - status of ISOs vs programmes - is a little muddled and diffuse.
(Kinda knackered right now, so perhaps that's better as a description of my own state of mind, lol.)
They were catering to teenagers from the sounds of it and that's why they assumed everyone watching it was totally in the dark about the tron universe and most of the people seeing it don't care about the original. The prequel comic and the game actually gave Clu alot of time to grow and you see more of why things are the way they are in the movie. I think Disney got lazy with Clu, i mean from what I saw the CG faces can't even compete to the ones in Final fantasy advent children and they were all cg. That may have been how this movie should have gone, that way nobody would have noticed the bad work.
neosporing
Sr Member
okay, i've had a couple of hours of sleep, and think i can write a complete sentence...
i wish i had walked into this movie without seeing or hearing anything... i remember watching that leaked cam footage of the lightcycle test scene over and over again, picking my jaw up off the floor and doing happy dances in between. Had i scene this movie at that time, i'm positive i'd have completely BLOWN AWAY.
okay that being said,
can someone explain the ending to me? SPOILERS!!!!! BELOW!!!
1. why was 're-integration' necessary for flynn to return?
2. if he couldn't return without his disc, how did quorra return without a disc
3. if they brought kevin flynn's disc back, wouldn't he have just materialized on earth with the rest of them / and quorra not materialized?
4. True / False - the disc was their 'digital soul'
5. why didn't CLU just copy Kevin Flynn's disc when he had the chance.
6. Did Kevin Flynn destroy the entire world or was that not destruction but a visual rep of the transfer into a usb key?
:angel
i wish i had walked into this movie without seeing or hearing anything... i remember watching that leaked cam footage of the lightcycle test scene over and over again, picking my jaw up off the floor and doing happy dances in between. Had i scene this movie at that time, i'm positive i'd have completely BLOWN AWAY.
okay that being said,
can someone explain the ending to me? SPOILERS!!!!! BELOW!!!
1. why was 're-integration' necessary for flynn to return?
2. if he couldn't return without his disc, how did quorra return without a disc
3. if they brought kevin flynn's disc back, wouldn't he have just materialized on earth with the rest of them / and quorra not materialized?
4. True / False - the disc was their 'digital soul'
5. why didn't CLU just copy Kevin Flynn's disc when he had the chance.
6. Did Kevin Flynn destroy the entire world or was that not destruction but a visual rep of the transfer into a usb key?
:angel
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