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    Aug 11, 2012 - Torchwood Season 5 #1

    Does anyone know any information of Torchwood Season 5? I was hoping someone might have picked up some details after SDCC but haven't heard anything.
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    Aug 11, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #2

    I'm guessing Starz didn't want back in. If so, would seem like there's not enough network interest in it for a 5th.
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    Aug 11, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #3

    Last I heard the ratings from "Miracle Day" weren't enough to get another season anywhere yet.
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    Aug 11, 2012 - #4

    I think it lost a bit of its charm becoming an american production. This is the POV of an american, of course.

    Not that I didn't like miracle day, but...
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    Aug 11, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #5

    I appreciated the higher production value, but I thought the writing of "Children of Earth" was much greater.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #6

    Loved Torchwood, but Miracle Day didn't earn it the rights to ever be on tv again.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #7

    If it returns, it needs to get back to it's episodic roots. Ditch this on-going story stuff that bares little to no resemblance to what made it popular in the first place.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #8

    I agree with you guys. It was nice to see what Torchwood would look like with more money but it just wasn't the same. Hopefully if we don't see Torchwood again on its own, I'd like to see the cast at least make some appearances on Doctor Who.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #9

    I read an interview last month with John Barrowman where he said if all goes well they would start filming in January.

    http://www.samesame.com.au/features/...-of-action.htm
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #10

    Bummer the date on the article is June 2011
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #11

    Dorian Gray said: View Post
    Bummer the date on the article is June 2011
    My bad
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #12

    dbalschi said: View Post
    My bad
    Just got my hopes up thats all hahaha
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #13

    Dorian Gray said: View Post
    Just got my hopes up thats all hahaha

    Hey I disappointed myself too! I've been thinking for the last 2 weeks they were going to start filming in 4 months!
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #14

    dbalschi said: View Post
    Hey I disappointed myself too! I've been thinking for the last 2 weeks they were going to start filming in 4 months!


    Side note:
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #15

    Seems odd to me that for such a talented writer as RTD, the show never really found it's tone. My best guess is that he just didn't have enough time to spend on the program. The first episode and Children of Earth were great, but I fear that Miracle Day was just a dragged out stake in the heart of this program. Would be nice if it had a proper farewell/wrap up in the 50th Anniversary year somehow.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #16

    Dave Ward said: View Post
    Seems odd to me that for such a talented writer as RTD, the show never really found it's tone. My best guess is that he just didn't have enough time to spend on the program. The first episode and Children of Earth were great, but I fear that Miracle Day was just a dragged out stake in the heart of this program. Would be nice if it had a proper farewell/wrap up in the 50th Anniversary year somehow.
    I would be satisfied with that then nothing I suppose.
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #17

    I recall reading a snippet not too long ago about this... Someone involved with the show (can't recall if it was the writer/director/producer/random person on the street) said they weren't in any hurry to make the next season, if they do at all... I'll see if I can find the article again

    Edit: Not sure if this is the same one I read, but it's from April: Screen Rant
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    Aug 12, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #18

    Thanks for the link Kevin. I hope we do see Jack in some capacity in DW's 50th. But I haven't heard much on the DW 50th do who knows what they have planned.
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    Aug 13, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #19

    I know that both Matt Smith and John Barrowman want Jack and #11 to meet up.
    I think they missed a golden opportunity to have him turn up already and make with the flirty on Amy and/or Rory.
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    Aug 13, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #20

    I think the fundamental problem with Torchwood is that it's really two separate stories that they forced together as one. On the one hand, you have the "Secret Society" story with Torchwood collecting alien artifacts and 'secretly' defending the British Empire against aliens. On the other hand you have the "Captain Jack Harkness" story where Jack has adventures. I think it was a mistake combining them. Torchwood should have been more X-Files - dark, gritty, conspiracy, secret, etc. The Jack Harkness show should have been, well, Jack doing what Jack does best - getting into, and out of, scrapes. It would have been fun if his Vortex Manipulator still worked and each show he ended up in a different time/place. The Jack show would have certainly been a lighter tone, more jovial.

    The problems with the first two series can be summed up in a line from the pilot: "Who orders pizza under the name 'Torchwood'?"

    Or, conversely, maybe you do put them together but Torchwood is the antagonist and Jack is the protagonist that travels through time trying to "fix" what Torchwood breaks (Doctor Who meets Quantum Leap).

    Personally, I wasn't a fan of the last two Torchwood series. Children of Earth was very well done, but it was too depressing. So, what do they do with Miracle Day? Lets make it MORE depressing!!! Torchwood was at it's best when it was fun with dramatic elements.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #21

    I agree about the depressing thing, but acknowledge that it's a me thing rather than an objective criticism. I think CoE and MD were good drama, but the premise was just so bleak that it wasn't fun to watch.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #22

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    Torchwood was at it's best when it was fun with dramatic elements.
    Agreed! When they make it as depressing as Miracle Day, then adding in the fun and quirky side of Jack seemed a little too forced.
    I'd love for it to go back to the earlier style, but I'm not sure it'd be possible to capture that feeling without Ianto, Owen or Tosh.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #23

    I thought Children of Earth was about the finest science fiction television ever made, but I liked Serenity too! I know people get so attached to the characters, they're resistant of change. I view character sacrifices as both necessary and bold. I hated Miracle Day because I thought the show lost its way. I thought they got Jack all wrong and his character became completely opposite of everything established until now. If they'd have known Miracle Day would be so awful, I wish they would have just ended with Children of Earth. It sucks seeing a show reach it's zenith with one season and then find it's nadir with the very next. IF they bring back Torchwood, I hope they remember what made it work.
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #24

    Miracle Day was a typical American television spin straying away from what made the British version great. Examples: Life on Mars, Being Human, Shameless, Top Gear...
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    Aug 14, 2012 - Re: Torchwood Season 5 #25

    You're right. I think too much was changed based on "hey look, we're making it for American viewers now!!" forgetting the fact that US audiences had already been enjoying the show the way it was.
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