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    Mar 2, 2011, 9:53 PM - Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #1

    Just a fun mind **** to get away from the RoboCop and Blade Runner reboot and sequel threads...

    Terminator: Salvation is really a prequel, isn't it? Because John hasn't sent Reese back in time yet, so the first movie hasn't occured.

    BUT, John is alive, which means that Reese had already gone back in time and fathered him, making it a sequel.

    BUT, we don't have the T-800 series yet, which we see in the first one, making it a prequel.

    BUT, it takes place years after the last installment, making it a sequel.

    BUT...

    Discuss.
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    Mar 2, 2011, 9:56 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #2

    I call it a prequel and i'm still wondering why they had the arnie t800 in it when that model wasn't supposed to show up. actually the entire movie was a giant mind **** just by all the weird stuff that didn't fit in with the other films.
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    Mar 2, 2011, 10:06 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #3

    Both. It's a time paradox thing.
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    Mar 2, 2011, 10:08 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #4

    terryr said: View Post
    Both. It's a time paradox thing.
    Party pooper!
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    Mar 2, 2011, 10:26 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #5

    Actually, it's a sequel, as the events and the world that Kyle Reese talks about is not the same one as we see in Terminator Salvation. It's a different timeline, a different reality. So, we will never see the "future" Kyle Reese talked about in Part 1 again because he came back, stop the Terminator from killing Sarah, and she and John in turn destroyed Cyberdyne, which stalled Judgement Day by a few years.
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    Mar 2, 2011, 11:00 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #6

    terryr said: View Post
    Both. It's a time paradox thing.
    this. excellent response

    Either way, they make no sense.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 3:05 AM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #7

    Wes R said: View Post
    I call it a prequel and i'm still wondering why they had the arnie t800 in it when that model wasn't supposed to show up. actually the entire movie was a giant mind **** just by all the weird stuff that didn't fit in with the other films.

    Thats because the original script was worthy of Oprah as a T800. Whats missing is the time travel, multiple Marcus' explanation, the real reason Marcus was drawn to Skynet, and an ending that made the film moot.

    You see a dead/deactivated Marcus laid out on a table during the opening raid on the Skynet base. Then you see T800 files on the computer... Later in the film the second Marcus knows where to locate, how to enter and run machines and computers in Skynet.

    The "Marcus" model is from the future, the year 2032 if I recall. He is unknowingly (due to his programing) bringing back technology files to Skynet which is why he is drawn "north". Any resistance infiltration are side missions pending anything related to "Connor". If the films were to continue, TS would possibly make sense but with McG at the helm, he is all over the place. Rumor was last he wanted to continue with a new Terminator film that takes place in London around 2011 or 2002 or something. This would negate the mentioned Marcus explanation Further making TS moot.


    Ive mentioned this before but dont know how many other people know the inside story or if its been totally negated, forgotten or ruled out.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 9:11 AM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #8

    its a presequel or a seprequel. I think seprequel sounds better
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    Mar 3, 2011, 9:31 AM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #9

    Or maybe Terminator: Salvation is a Re-quel. Not quite a reboot, not quite a sequel.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 9:42 AM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #10

    John Connors 'wife' was 24 years old in 2003, in 2018 she is 28 ? (aged 4 years in 15 years time)
    While John himself was 24 in 2003 (less than 19 years after he was born), and then 35 in 2018...(closer to real, aged 11 years in 15 years)
    Still, he was allready 14 less than 7 years after he was born, so I guess that's just how his life works :P
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    Mar 3, 2011, 12:47 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #11

    Russ257 said: View Post
    its a presequel or a seprequel. I think seprequel sounds better
    "I am See Prequel, Human/Terminator relations."
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    Mar 3, 2011, 1:44 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #12

    It doesn't exist, therefore is neither.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 2:52 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #13

    The movie that you are talking about does not exist. It was just a giant April Fools Joke two years ago.

    It was named "Terminator Salivation" because they knew that the fans would drool over images of the "trailer", but that was all they got.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 3:03 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #14

    Darth Lars said: View Post
    It was named "Terminator Salivation" because they knew that the fans would drool over images of the "trailer", but that was all they got.
    Really? I thought it was called "Terminator Starvation" because the film didn't satisfy anyone.
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    Mar 3, 2011, 3:03 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #15

    ......
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    Mar 3, 2011, 3:28 PM - Re: Is Terminator: Salvation a prequel or a sequel? #16

    blip said: View Post
    So is a trailer for a non existant film, a short film in itself...because it can't be a trailer anymore.

    Can a short film be included in a series of full length films.

    Or is it a micro-quel?
    Why not? Heck, I LOVED the Phantom Menace micro-quel!

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