Terminator: Genisys

I didn't know that bit about Salvation either. Seems there was a lot that was cut. It sounds like an Alien 3 job. But with the results being that the two previous movies were still far better most likely starting from the script point.

Even if Arnold isn't the focus his performance will be noted. He was perfect in Terminator and T2. Played for comedy at times and off in Terminator 3. And way over powered in the cameo in Salvation.

I didn't know that either but it makes a lot more sense that he's not the john connor everyone thought and that the "savior" john had yet to be born.
 
I didn't know that either but it makes a lot more sense that he's not the john connor everyone thought and that the "savior" john had yet to be born.

How does that make sense? Didn't Reese say in the first movie that Sarah Connor's son was the leader of the resistance? Wasn't that the whole point of T1 and T2? To keep John Connor from being born? Not John Connor's son, JC (***** ****** = savior) Jr...
Seems like people are reading way too much into this and trying to pull something out of it that isn't there.
 
How does that make sense? Didn't Reese say in the first movie that Sarah Connor's son was the leader of the resistance? Wasn't that the whole point of T1 and T2? To keep John Connor from being born? Not John Connor's son, JC (***** ****** = savior) Jr...
Seems like people are reading way too much into this and trying to pull something out of it that isn't there.

Look up some of Robstyle's previous posts on the subject. He's laid it out numerous times. A fraction of what T:S was supposed to be actually made it on screen. That's why it was such a convoluted mess.
 
Look up some of Robstyle's previous posts on the subject. He's laid it out numerous times. A fraction of what T:S was supposed to be actually made it on screen. That's why it was such a convoluted mess.

Would have been even worse with all that crap crammed into it.
 
It's nice to have it confirmed, but I think we pretty much knew at this point it wasn't a hard reboot. I'm not surprised that it will likely be PG-13 either, and not really bothered by it. T2 was already brought down from T1 (although both movies have the same classification here), and it's the superior film imo.
 
James Cameron Reveals Advice He Gave Terminator Genisys Producer
Very logical explanation and makes the presence of aged Arnold more fitting.

" Though Cameron isn't directly involved with the film, he did reveal to Deadline that he gave the film's producer, David Ellison, an idea on how to utilize the now 67-year-old Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"I pointed out that the outer covering (of the Terminator) was actually not synthetic, that it was organic and therefore could age," Cameron revealed, echoing a statement Schwarzenegger said back in March. "You could theoretically have a Terminator that was sent back in time, missed his target, and ended up just kind of living on in society. Because he is a learning computer and has a brain as a central processor, he could actually become more human as he went along without getting discovered." "
 
"I pointed out that the outer covering (of the Terminator) was actually not synthetic, that it was organic and therefore could age," Cameron revealed, echoing a statement Schwarzenegger said back in March. "You could theoretically have a Terminator that was sent back in time, missed his target, and ended up just kind of living on in society. Because he is a learning computer and has a brain as a central processor, he could actually become more human as he went along without getting discovered." "

Dangit. Guess he prefers the theatrical cut of Terminator 2.

THEATRICAL
T-800: My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer. The more contact I have with humans the more I learn.
John: Cool.​

SPECIAL EDITION
T-800: My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer. But Skynet presets the switch to read-only when we're sent out alone.
Sarah: Doesn't want you to do too much thinking.
T-800: No.
John: Can we reset the switch?​
 
Dangit. Guess he prefers the theatrical cut of Terminator 2.

THEATRICAL
T-800: My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer. The more contact I have with humans the more I learn.
John: Cool.​

SPECIAL EDITION
T-800: My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer. But Skynet presets the switch to read-only when we're sent out alone.
Sarah: Doesn't want you to do too much thinking.
T-800: No.
John: Can we reset the switch?​

What's not to say the Terminator didn't get someone to reset the switch? Remember, he also pointed out in the scene that some minor damage to the cloned flesh heals.
 
Yeah, but that whole switch scene was pretty cool. I don't really pay any attention to the theatrical cut any more.

I was so angry when I came out of the theater after seeing T2. "Now I know why you cry" WTF! What happened to "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." He's a killing machine. "That's what he does! It's all he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through you, reach down her throat, and pull her ****ing heart out!!"

Many years later, the anger subsided a bit after seeing the special edition. At least the cry line made sense now. I still roll my eyes at the misplaced comic relief and will never forgive the horribly cheesy thumbs up as he went into the molten steel though.
 
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*sigh* damn I wish cameron would have written and directed another Terminator :(

Dangit. Guess he prefers the theatrical cut of Terminator 2.

You didn't know? The theatrical version IS the "director's cut" ;)

Yeah, but that whole switch scene was pretty cool. I don't really pay any attention to the theatrical cut any more.

Me too :D

What's not to say the Terminator didn't get someone to reset the switch? Remember, he also pointed out in the scene that some minor damage to the cloned flesh heals.

Exactly :)

I was so angry when I came out of the theater after seeing T2. "Now I know why you cry" WTF! What happened to "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead." He's a killing machine. "That's what he does! It's all he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through you, reach down her throat, and pull her ****ing heart out!!"

Many years later, the anger subsided a bit after seeing the special edition. At least the cry line made sense now. I still roll my eyes at the misplaced comic relief and will never forgive the horribly cheesy thumbs up as he went into the molten steel though.

:thumbsup was great. A re-run of the thumbs up in the desert
 
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This week's cover First look at 'Terminator Genisys' | PopWatch | EW.com

Gee..quite a twist with the story direction. Read the full article in the above page. BTW this is pretty much a synopsis and will be addressed in promos and trailers, so not necessarily a big spoiler.

Here is an excerpt:

Their recipe calls for one part Teutonic monotone with Arnold Schwarzenegger back in a big way, and four parts exciting new cast with geek bonafides that are sure to appease the Comic-Con masses, plus ground-breaking special effects and a few shocking twists on the canon.

Twist No. 1? Sarah Connor isn’t the innocent she was when Linda Hamilton first sported feathered hair and acid-washed jeans in the role. Nor is she Hamilton’s steely zero body-fat warrior in 1991’s T2. Rather, the mother of humanity’s messiah was orphaned by a Terminator at age 9. Since then, she’s been raised by (brace yourself) Schwarzenegger’s Terminator—an older T-800 she calls “Pops”—who is programmed to guard rather than to kill. As a result, Sarah is a highly trained antisocial recluse who’s great with a sniper rifle but not so skilled at the nuances of human emotion.

“Since she was 9 years old, she has been told everything that was supposed to happen,” says Ellison. “But Sarah fundamentally rejects that destiny. She says, ‘That’s not what I want to do.’ It’s her decision that drives the story in a very different direction.”

EW cover 1

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EW cover 2

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