Solo4114
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Nope. Not at all. I don't think there's a way to make it work.
And probably no Marvel series, or the "Classic Star Wars" from Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson, or any number of Dark Horse comics.
That's true, but I don't think that there's a way to make all that stuff work, really. Certainly the Thrawn-to-the-present stuff won't work. And the real issue is that, at least with respect to the novels and anything built on those novels, once you knock out a lynchpin like Mara Jade...the whole thing starts crumbling apart. So much of the EU was built on references to itself. If there's no Mara, then how does the Thrawn thing get solved, assuming it even happened? If it didn't happen, how do you have any of the legions of books that followed and built upon where the characters were after those events?
I just don't think you can do it and maintain any semblance of continuity. Which is why I think they'll simply do a "alternate universe" hand-waive and that's that. It's too much of a pain in the ass to try to preserve the EU in a piecemeal fashion, so they'll just scrap it altogether.
I believe time will prove that it is you who labors under the delusion that corporate powers that be owe anything to long-time fans. I mean, by all means, cling to whatever forlorn hope you like, but do you really think they'll wade into the minefield of trying to preserve large swaths of material from the EU just to satisfy disgruntled fans who'll still pay for a ticket and buy all the new stuff anyway? They know they've got the junkies hooked. They know this. You know it. We ALL know it. If the prequels didn't kill this franchise, it's unkillable. Nothing will take it down, not even fans being irritated that the EU was now treated as non-official canon. I'm sure they'll keep selling the books and stuff because, hey, why not, but they'll rebrand them as another universe or "what ifs" or whathaveyou. Or they just won't say anything about it, and leave it to fans to figure out how all the pieces fit (hint: they won't).
First and foremost, the Star Wars brand is the movies. And the movies ALWAYS take precedence over the EU. Whether it's a casual kind of retcon or a major one, retcons will happen. We went from spaarti cloning cylinders to the Kamino clones, and nobody blinked. In the end, I think that's how this will go, even if they basically eliminate the entire post-Thrawn EU from canon. Which, let's be clear, they can do as easily as saying "Mara Jade doesn't exist." Seriously. Try to make the EU work without her influence being felt. It doesn't end up making sense.
Is this a joke? :confused
Nope. Not at all. I don't think there's a way to make it work.
they might stop short of retconning it out of existence but the new movies will not be based on it.
there will be no thrawn.
there will be no mara jade.
no emperor clones.
And probably no Marvel series, or the "Classic Star Wars" from Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson, or any number of Dark Horse comics.
The EU began long before Thrawn and Mara Jade. While I agree that certain chunks of the EU were garbage (like the Emperor's clones and the Yuuzhan Vong), I'd point out that some of the coolest story's and characters also came from it.
That's true, but I don't think that there's a way to make all that stuff work, really. Certainly the Thrawn-to-the-present stuff won't work. And the real issue is that, at least with respect to the novels and anything built on those novels, once you knock out a lynchpin like Mara Jade...the whole thing starts crumbling apart. So much of the EU was built on references to itself. If there's no Mara, then how does the Thrawn thing get solved, assuming it even happened? If it didn't happen, how do you have any of the legions of books that followed and built upon where the characters were after those events?
I just don't think you can do it and maintain any semblance of continuity. Which is why I think they'll simply do a "alternate universe" hand-waive and that's that. It's too much of a pain in the ass to try to preserve the EU in a piecemeal fashion, so they'll just scrap it altogether.
And if you think they're going to do ANYTHING to screw with the EU, which is what basically drove the Star Wars universe from 1983 to 1999.....you're delusional.
I believe time will prove that it is you who labors under the delusion that corporate powers that be owe anything to long-time fans. I mean, by all means, cling to whatever forlorn hope you like, but do you really think they'll wade into the minefield of trying to preserve large swaths of material from the EU just to satisfy disgruntled fans who'll still pay for a ticket and buy all the new stuff anyway? They know they've got the junkies hooked. They know this. You know it. We ALL know it. If the prequels didn't kill this franchise, it's unkillable. Nothing will take it down, not even fans being irritated that the EU was now treated as non-official canon. I'm sure they'll keep selling the books and stuff because, hey, why not, but they'll rebrand them as another universe or "what ifs" or whathaveyou. Or they just won't say anything about it, and leave it to fans to figure out how all the pieces fit (hint: they won't).
The EU has almost certainly made more money for the Star Wars brand than all 6 movies combined - and that's not to mention that it keeps the brand hot and relevant during all the dry periods between theatrical releases.
I could go on and on but it's just my opinion so I'll shut up. lol
First and foremost, the Star Wars brand is the movies. And the movies ALWAYS take precedence over the EU. Whether it's a casual kind of retcon or a major one, retcons will happen. We went from spaarti cloning cylinders to the Kamino clones, and nobody blinked. In the end, I think that's how this will go, even if they basically eliminate the entire post-Thrawn EU from canon. Which, let's be clear, they can do as easily as saying "Mara Jade doesn't exist." Seriously. Try to make the EU work without her influence being felt. It doesn't end up making sense.