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    Mar 11, 2012, 10:05 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #251

    The guy is a step shy of werewolf if you think about it.
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    Mar 11, 2012, 10:24 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #252

    greatwazoo42 said: View Post
    They're remaking City On The Edge Of Forever for the next movie? COOL!!!
    Is that official?
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    Mar 12, 2012, 5:10 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #253

    Not at all. I was being funny...and proving how rumors start.
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    Mar 12, 2012, 6:44 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #254

    greatwazoo42 said: View Post
    Not at all. I was being funny...and proving how rumors start.


    I wondered if anyone would actually fall for that!!
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    Mar 12, 2012, 6:53 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #255

    Monster Dave said: View Post


    I wondered if anyone would actually fall for that!!

    Chalk one up for me then.
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    Mar 12, 2012, 7:54 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #256

    robn1 said: View Post
    Is that official?
    *sniff sniff* Smell that? That's sarcasm
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    Mar 12, 2012, 9:15 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #257

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ght. LOL!!!
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    May 1, 2012, 6:28 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #258

    Trekmovie.com has posted an article confirming who it is that Benedict Cumberbatch is playing:
    He is Khan. They also say that the movie isn't going to be a remake of 'Space Seed'


    Also:
    Leonard Nimoy will return as Spock Prime. I was kind of expecting this one.


    And:
    The Klingons will be featured in the film.
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    May 1, 2012, 7:28 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #259

    As for that third spoiler. I hope they get the guy that had the speaking part in the cut scene with Nero again. He had such a perfectly menacing voice and looked great in the part.
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    May 1, 2012, 8:54 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #260

    Nimoy is quickly becoming the Bret Favre of Trek. I don't mind, provided he does not send pics of his Johnson to any of us.
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    May 1, 2012, 11:22 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #261

    My take on the villain in the new Trek film.

    I'm not one of those "No Khan! Make a new villain!" trek fans. I knew walking in to Trek09 that clamoring for a new story instead of a retelling of something from TOS was just kind of pointless. It's Kirk and crew! We've already lost the "new" take. So having Khan be the villain doesn't really bother me in the slightest. He might actually work! What I am concerned about is how they'll portrayal Khan in the end. Here's what I'm hoping they won't do.

    - Khan is a bona fide bad guy.
    He wasn't. He was just someone who wanted to get away from those who said he couldn't rule. Even when he ruled a quarter of Earth in the 90s, there were no massacres under his rule and no war until outside forces attacked him.

    - Khan is killed
    If this alternate reality wants to paint itself as something where anything can be different, my first thought would be to not kill Khan. Why should Khan end up being the bad guy that Kirk and crew must defeat? Why not have Khan be a potential ally? Gah, it's just.. I don't know. I always saw the original Khan as a tragic character who could have brought something unique to the galaxy had that bloody planet not blown up.

    - Khan wants to conquer/destroy Earth
    This is the big one. One of my complaints towards Trek09 was that it put Earth in the center stage as the planet that must be saved no matter the circumstances. I never liked stories that revolved around saving present day Earth, because it should be for all intents and purposes impossible, and pointless. This is the United Federation of Planets. Humanity has more allies and more at their disposal than their own ships. And the other obvious reason I don't like "Earth is in danger!" stories is that it doesn't do anything. If the mission is "To boldly go where no one has gone before", why do we always keep coming back? And if Khan does want to retake Earth, I fear it will be grossly out of character. He did not want to rule on Earth after his nation fell so he decided to venture out into space to find another world, only to have that interrupted by the Enterprise. Even when he seized command of the Enterprise, he still didn't want Earth. Even when he had the Genesis device, he never once talked about taking Earth back or destroying it. Since this film has JJ "I love all things Earth, let's throw in a scene with a hotrod, Nokia and rap songs!" Abrams, I think that's what the film will boil down to. Another freaking "Earth is in Danger!" story line.
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    May 1, 2012, 11:34 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #262

    But now Khan is a skinny pasty white guy?! I was hoping for Bat Manuele. So, I guess The Klingons are going to find the Botany Bay now, or maybe Spock Prime goes about changing some history.

    I hope this guy can pull Khan off.
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    May 1, 2012, 1:05 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #263

    Nice to see JJ pushing the envelope.
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    May 2, 2012, 10:20 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #264

    Mola Rob said: View Post
    Nice to see JJ pushing the envelope.

    Not sure if serious. Are you kidding?! If not....
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    May 2, 2012, 11:26 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #265

    MooCriket said: View Post
    Not sure if serious. Are you kidding?! If not....
    Just being sarcastic.

    JJ and crew seem to be playing it safe covering the same old ground. Khan again? It's a remake within a remake. Whoopee I say...whoopee!
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    May 2, 2012, 11:34 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #266

    Thank You good sir! Good day to you, and thank you for restoring my faith in mankind!
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    May 2, 2012, 11:37 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #267

    JJ and his crew going this route doesn't surprise me in the least.

    JJ Abrams is the kind of person who wants to create his own thing. The last thing I think he wants is to be remembered as the guy who did the new Star Trek movies. Just look at his TV resume and tell me this guy would prefer doing his own thing rather than sticking with someone else's work.

    And aren't his buddies Alex and Bob just shining examples of Hollywood inginuity with their announced "reboot" projects of Van Helsing and the Mummy for universal and writing the next Amazing Spiderman movie? These guys couldn't do their own thing even if they wanted to.

    Trek09 was made for the mass audiences who carry that misleading assumption of what Star Trek is. Kirk is an unprofessional a**hole who sleeps with the green girl, all McCoy does is shout, everyone always gives their one-liners, Logic equals blind prejudice, and Earth is the only planet that matters. I have my doubts this film will be any different. Maybe I'll be wrong, but we're still don't have a new "new" Trek yet.
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    May 2, 2012, 11:54 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #268

    Jeyl said: View Post
    ...JJ Abrams is the kind of person who wants to create his own thing. The last thing I think he wants is to be remembered as the guy who did the new Star Trek movies...
    Then he should have turned it down. Go do your own thing JJ, and leave our thing to someone who will respect it.
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    May 2, 2012, 12:20 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #269

    Someday we will be saying the same thing about whoever reboots and remakes Star Wars. For the record, I agree robn1
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    May 2, 2012, 12:34 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #270

    At least with JJ Abram's Super Action Trek 2009 they had a somewhat original story but it didn't take them long to dig into Trek past to find material to recycle.

    It's kind of what I expected. The first movie was just a setup to reset the characters back to the time of TOS. Now they can just coast and remake whatever they think will draw the most old fans into the theater while using the faster pace and more action to attract the younger audience.

    On the plus side just think of all the pipes in the engineering section that Kirk can beat Khan with.
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    May 2, 2012, 7:40 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #271

    Cant wait for it, hated all the remakes on tv , and hated piccard , star trek is shatner/nimoy. Not make it so! Didnt expect much with jjs but was blown away it was great, if he doesnt screw up he has another blockbuster ,cant wait to see it!
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    May 2, 2012, 8:27 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #272


    Your very funny goapebilly.
    Very funny, indeed.
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    May 29, 2012, 9:27 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #273

    Or maybe it's NOT Khan....

    How Simon Pegg became a big fish - Telegraph
    This time, Pegg isn’t the only Brit in the world of Starfleet. Benedict Cumberbatch has been cast as a villain. Pegg is full of praise for Cumberbatch’s baddy, whom he describes

    as “not just another disgruntled alien. It’s a really interesting… sort of… thing,” he squirms. “Obviously I can’t talk about it.” Given internet rumours that Cumberbatch has been cast as Kirk and Spock nemesis Khan, will this be a very different “wrath of Khan” from the 1982 film of the same name? “It’s not Khan,” replies Pegg, annoyed. “That’s a myth. Everyone’s saying it is, but it’s not.”

    Is that misinformation from the famously secretive Abrams camp? “No, I think people just want to have a scoop. It annoys me – it’s beyond the point to just ferret around for spoilers all the time to try to be the first to break them,” says Pegg, a fanboy’s fanboy who wrote an autobiography called Nerd Do Well and who seems to have forgotten that part of the thrill of being a comic book/film/sci-fi fan is about getting as many details as possible in advance. “It just spoils the film,” he complains. “It masquerades as interest in the movie but really it’s just nosiness and impatience. You just want to say, ‘Oh f--- off! Wait for the film!’”
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    May 29, 2012, 10:45 PM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #274

    So will they be TOS Klingons or TNG Klingons?

    Or JJ Klingons?
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    May 30, 2012, 3:25 AM - re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release) #275

    They should be TOS Klingons, because of Enterprise which is still canon in the JJ-verse. In deleted JJ-Trek scenes the shown Klingons had helmets with ridges on them to skirt the issue. However, the Klingon actors had makeup and prosthetics akin to TNG Klingon design on under the helmets.

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