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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2076

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    I've actually realised just where the whole principle of the Black Grue comes from and why it effects everyone and thing so differently. I thought it was simply a rip from the X files (if anyone can remember it ) but no, theres actually a more modern link than that.
    Its the bloody "SMOKE MONSTER" from LOST again!!!
    Oooh. Yeah, that's not bad.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2077

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    And when the Prometheus ship is about to crash into the Derelict Ship, she doesn't use her fully self-sustaining life boat to get away opting instead to use a tiny escape pod.
    You mean the fully self-sustaining life boat that wasn't on the ship anymore? Janek ejected that when Vickers was still on the bridge, I think. So she didn't really have much choice but to use the escape pod. It was either that, or just jump out a window.. the life boat was already on the ground by that time (that was where the Engineer bought it, remember).
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2078

    Yeah, Janek took an executive decision there. Maybe her getting to the lifeboat and activating it just wasn't going to be possible in the time available, versus getting to an ejection capsule just down the hall. The ship is 560 feet long and quite a few decks. Anyway, whatever, not an issue IMO.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2079

    Seriously, who would have stayed with the captain and not gone on to spend two years in a lifeboat with a beautiful blonde?!
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2080

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    Seriously, who would have stayed with the captain and not gone on to spend two years in a lifeboat with a beautiful blonde?!
    That's the "stranded on a desert island" question. She'd probably killed them and worn their skin as a coat before sleeping with them.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2081

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    That's the "stranded on a desert island" question. She'd probably killed them and worn their skin as a coat before sleeping with them.
    The same woman that slept with Janek just to prove a point? lol
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2082

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    The same woman that slept with Janek just to prove a point? lol
    Well, she wanted it then. With him. Doesn't mean she'll lay with others, now would it.

    But you are probably right... not very well thought through of me when I made the comment. .)

    Was just probably thinking she didn't wanna share air, food and stuff.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - #2083

    We saw it last night. I thought it was pretty good as a prequel to the prequel to alien. Maybe she and David made it to their home planet, let lose the bio weapon, one alien got away infected to the original alien plant we now and love. Does anyone know if the is to be another movie?


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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2085

    Interesting article about the original sapce jockey design which was 27 feet long. I knew this when seeing the new space jockey compared to the humans in Prometheus I said they were way out of scale compared to the original.
    Everything we know about Ridley Scott's Space Jockeys
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2086

    Possibly, but one thing which isn't out of scale is the Juggernaut herself. That scale drawing - Prometheus, the compound, pyra-mound, Juggernaut and silo - tickles me no end; shows it is bang on the same size range as the original Derelict, namely 1000' long.

    (Original was 1/96 or close to it and ten feet according to various sources. Can anyone verify?) Anyway, nice job, production!
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2087

    I really didn't care for the look of the two Aliens at the end!
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2088

    I know Prometheus is already in release. But, there is already a spoiler thread in this forum... can we keep the spoilers there or in tags for a little while longer?
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2089

    Normally yes, but then again this has been a spoiler thread for over two years now, since the very first post, in fact.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2090

    Nwerke said: View Post
    Normally yes, but then again this has been a spoiler thread for over two years now, since the very first post, in fact.
    I don't recall any hardcore spoiler out in the open until the last few days. With there being TWO THREADS one that seems a pretty OBVIOUS spot for spoilers - I thought this thread would be safe until I can see the movie (hopefully tomorrow).

    Most of the thread has been good about hiding the more obvious spoilers with tags or keeping them in the other thread.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2091

    Sluis Van Shipyards said: View Post
    I haven't followed the entire thread, but is Prometheus connected to Alien at all? They have some aliens in chairs that look a lot like the space jockey from Alien.
    justinbauler said: View Post
    seeing it next week, saw aliens and alien a long time ago. is prometheus related to this film at all?
    What is with these people?
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2092

    Yeah, there's only 2000 posts.. can't be that hard to read through in a week.

    Seriously, though, you'd think after all this time, something would have leaked through.. hehe.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott: Alien Prequel Details #2093

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    Good luck to him, but I don't know... for me, the space jockey and the derelict are so perfectly mysterious, so perfectly beyond experience, it seems a shame to just explain that all away, to bring the jockey and the derelict into the ho-hum realm of the known and the explained. It would deflate the powerful dream-sense of the original scene in 'Alien'. Seriously,for that reason, I might stay away...I know I'd miss some good stuff, but I'm sure nothing in the film can have the impact that derelict scene had in 1979. The memory of that impact is more important to me.
    Grabbed this post from page 1 of this thread, lol.

    Well, there are still a lot of mysteries involving the space jockeys!
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2094

    like how they can shrink from 27' tall to only 9' tall
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2095

    I don't get the complaints about this. I enjoyed it. The planet with the ships was NOT the same one that was discovered by the Nostromo or the colony in Aliens. That was LV-426 and this was LV-223. I was expecting it to bookend into Alien, but now, I'm kinda glad it didn't.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2096

    Soulinertia said: View Post
    like how they can shrink from 27' tall to only 9' tall
    Where does this 27' figure comes from, anyway?

    I think maybe the entire original space jockey prop, including the chair and telescope, might have been 27' long. A 27' tall humanoid would have a head that is 4-5' tall, and that is CLEARLY not what we saw in Alien.

    In Prometheus, David stood up to just over the waist/tummy region of the engineer. Fassbender is 6' tall, so that puts the engineer somewhere in the neighborhood of 10' tall.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2097

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    Where does this 27' figure comes from, anyway?

    I think maybe the entire original space jockey prop, including the chair and telescope, might have been 27' long. A 27' tall humanoid would have a head that is 4-5' tall, and that is CLEARLY not what we saw in Alien.

    In Prometheus, David stood up to just over the waist/tummy region of the engineer. Fassbender is 6' tall, so that puts the engineer somewhere in the neighborhood of 10' tall.
    X2, no way the jockey in ALIEN was 27' tall. That is total BS.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2098

    Scott used his kids in some of the shots in the egg room next to the space jockey, to make it look bigger, so in some of the shots he is pretty massive compared to people.
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    Jun 9, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2099

    Even then, I think the figure would have to include the telescope. Thank you guys for tackling that one, works for me.

    I have no problem with 10 or 12 foot jockeys. I'd still far rather they were bioengineered elephanty things but eh. Now we get a nice biohelmet prop to replicate.
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    Jun 10, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #2100

    According to the "Giger's Alien" book the space jockey set, in his chair with the scope thing was 26 foot high in total & that was mounted on a turntable set that was 5 foot high.

    HTH

    Edit: I worded that badly, I'm suggesting that the entire thing with the turntable was in total 26 foot high
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