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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1651

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    Got to say its a long time since I've wanted to see a film as much as Prometheus.

    Agreed. Its amazing that Scott initially meant to create an Alien film, and then changed his mind for something new, which apparently doesnt even have an ALIEN in it, but yet has garnered more interest than if it did.
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1652

    Is Prometheus the same ship as the Heliades (mentioned on the Weyland industries site), just renamed? Either way, both names are interesting.
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1653

    That siren sound at the end of the trailer just sounds chilling.I'm actually pretty excited for this movie and cant' wait for it to show up on Blu-ray.

    Now anyone have a link for that siren sound so I can set it as my new ringtone?
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1654

    It's funny how this trailer made made this seem more like a horror movie
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1655

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    Jeez, is it me or did the thing that landed on the helmet also melt the skin off the guys face....It looks like you can see skeletal details on his face. Teeth, nasal cavity, cheekbones.

    I don't think that's at all a coincidence.
    Look at the original ALIEN head...you can see the skull, and we know that there's a clear dome over it all....so I really believe there's a connection between what we're seeing here and the ALIEN, meaning the original Ridley one.
    Just a guess though...

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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1656

    You thought the TED video was awesome? Wait until you see the secret origin video of Idris Elba's character Janek and how he started piloting space vehicles!

    LINK
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1657

    DAVIDYR1 said: View Post
    I don't think that's at all a coincidence.
    Look at the original ALIEN head...you can see the skull, and we know that there's a clear dome over it all....so I really believe there's a connection between what we're seeing here and the ALIEN, meaning the original Ridley one.
    Just a guess though...

    David
    Are you suggesting a bio mechanical fusion of human skeletal details, along with the spacesuit ( helmet dome) and possibly the space jockey details?
    The origin of the alien design.

    That would be awesome.
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1658

    DARTH SABER said: View Post
    Are you suggesting a bio mechanical fusion of human skeletal details, along with the spacesuit ( helmet dome) and possibly the space jockey details?
    The origin of the alien design.

    That would be awesome.

    Yes....
    This latest trailer seems to add credibility to this theory but it's something that another member originally suggested here a few pages back.

    His leg work, his theory and supported with images backing this theory. Pretty compelling thought...which not only made sense to me at the time but now with what we're seeing...I'd say even more so.

    Credit to that member for posting it in the first place...sorry, don't remember who it was but it's a few pages back.

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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1659

    Looks like they take the severed Space Jokey helmet off, and the dude's HEAD explodes.


    Tattoo dude, probably mutating, probably burned from melty helmet syndrome™, goes on a bender:
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1660

    (I capped these and enhanced the contrast from that new International trailer - now in HD on Youtube)
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1661

    Its the new albino eel thingy that bursts out of the dead Jockey head, a few frames on you can see its head. I'm worried now as these things get everywhere, someone mentioned Dreamcatcher esq? Seems likely?
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1662

    Blort! SO gross I love it!
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1663

    Have they given away the whole movie by now? LOL
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1665

    I think the film was given away pretty early on to be honest, seeing the ships collide is a big part of the film and would not be expected if not in the trailers, I'm more gutted about seeing this kinda stuff as opposed to Jockey action. I doubt very much we've seen all there is yet though and we still haven't seen a Jockey up close.

    Saying that though this is a big budget movie with a lot at stake and they have to get people through the door or its by by P2...... and who wants that?

    I also cant help myself, I'm a spoiler addict.
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1666

    I figure that I'll probably see the film 1000 times anyway. I doubt the spoilers will kill my enjoyment of the movie.
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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1667

    DAVIDYR1 said: View Post
    Yes....
    This latest trailer seems to add credibility to this theory but it's something that another member originally suggested here a few pages back.

    His leg work, his theory and supported with images backing this theory. Pretty compelling thought...which not only made sense to me at the time but now with what we're seeing...I'd say even more so.

    Credit to that member for posting it in the first place...sorry, don't remember who it was but it's a few pages back.

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    David, I think you're refering to a post I did on page 51 of this thread... but the photos were posted (and still are) on propsummit !
    Here is the link again for those interested in pictures (scroll down to 6th post to see them) :

    Propsummit.com a Blade Runner Prop Community Forum BladeRunnerProps.comView topic - Alien prequel

    Anyway, thanks a lot for your kind words !



    BTW, if I refer to the 2 screencaps posted above by Jason (and to go a little further in my theory about the Alien origins), it looks like, OK, a "thing" is still alive in this severed Space Jockey head... now, if you think about what looks like a tiny "Cobra facehugger" in Holloway's eye... Well, it looks like those parasites inhabit their hosts' heads...
    If I follow this thought, I doubt these "Space Jockey's parasites" will have enough room to develop properly into a human skull, I guess they'll have to extend / expand it one way or another.
    If the red haired guy really is what more and more looks like a proto Alien I guess the rear of his skull will grow at a certain point in the film (his mohawk already reminds me of the "spine" spotted atop the Alien skull seen in Sir Rid's original film !)



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    Apr 30, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1668

    Noeland said: View Post
    I figure that I'll probably see the film 1000 times anyway. I doubt the spoilers will kill my enjoyment of the movie.
    Same here^. I honestly wish and hope that I could reallllly start seeing more trailers on TV though. We're only about a month away and seriously, althought I don't spend hours on end in front of a tv, I have yet to see a single one! I think most of our hope is that this film does well enough, both to our own expectations and the box office, to perhaps warrant a second film. No way that'll happen if no one comes to see it.

    I love all the small stuff in what we've been able to see. The window that changes scenery in vickers room. Yeah-want! And David riding around in what looks like a gym throwing basketballs?.. I guess what else would you do with a couple years to yourself, right? The look of this film just keeps getting better. Spoilers? Eh, maybe, but bring it. Can't wait to see this film.
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    May 1, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1669

    I love all the small stuff in what we've been able to see.
    The only thing bothering me about the trailers is the notion of Weyland/Vickers having a bigger security team, and the security team being better armed and being able to handle a mutated crew member easily.

    There is no question in my mind that they would have heavily armed security and they would be very capable of clearing a cargo bay of 10 or 12 mutated crew members if needed. I also think they would be able to blow the jockey ship out of the air with the push of a button.

    But that's a reaction to the trailer. In the context of the story, that stuff is not likely to bother me.
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    May 1, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1670

    I didn't freeze frame it but was 90% sure that was the head from the jockey helmet blowing up. Same background, reaction shot of the scientists matches etc. UGH. The fuuuu?!? Wonderful!

    Kit Rae said: View Post
    That was cool, but too much. I think it's time for me to stop watching the trailers and this thread until I see the film now.
    Ditto. I've been wondering if Ridley and the marketing department have developed a collective case of loose cannon syndrome or what! But this may be a perfectly rational and planned reaction to the failure of John Carter. If so, maybe we really can expect that bit too much info.
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    May 1, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1671

    SKIN JOB 66 said: View Post
    David, I think you're refering to a post I did on page 51 of this thread... but the photos were posted (and still are) on propsummit !
    Here is the link again for those interested in pictures (scroll down to 6th post to see them) :

    Propsummit.com a Blade Runner Prop Community Forum BladeRunnerProps.comView topic - Alien prequel

    Anyway, thanks a lot for your kind words !



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    Yup! It sure was. Thanks again for posting that, pretty radical theory but I can see it.
    Way too soon to say for sure but I love the idea suggested.



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    May 1, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1672

    I believe, from what I saw in the trailer, that they are totally unprepared for what they encounter. From Vickers little "if anything is down there" speech. Just her tone seems to indicate that she feels this is a BIG waste of time, and she doesn't think their going to find anything. I could see her not wanting to go, but doing so because she was ordered to. If she had any say in the mission, having the mind set that their not going to find anything, down playing the need for heavy weapons, not only for the crew, but if the ship is an "exploration" ship, and the only life forms know are other humans, why would they need a defense system for the ship.

    On the other hand you have Shaw, who believes these beings left invitations for a visit all over Earth. If they think that these beings are just going to waiting for them with open arms, they have no reason to defend themselves.

    In any case, any ship, boat, space, should be carrying a stash of weapons, in case of emergency. A crew member goes nuts, and needs to be subdued, mutiny, ect....but along that line of thinking, you're defending yourself against your own kind, so a hand gun, or a rifle should suffice.

    Now throw in some genetically engineered life forms that want to rip your face off, lay eggs in you brain, and live in your body cavity..... and let the fun ensue!

    Noeland said: View Post
    The only thing bothering me about the trailers is the notion of Weyland/Vickers having a bigger security team, and the security team being better armed and being able to handle a mutated crew member easily.

    There is no question in my mind that they would have heavily armed security and they would be very capable of clearing a cargo bay of 10 or 12 mutated crew members if needed. I also think they would be able to blow the jockey ship out of the air with the push of a button.

    But that's a reaction to the trailer. In the context of the story, that stuff is not likely to bother me.
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    May 2, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1673

    The star maps and gaps between the civilizations they are found in are interesting. Magdalenian (15,000 BC) were hunter gathers. Mesopotamian (5300 BC) said to be the origin of the myth of the Garden of Eden and the cradle of civilization.Then Aztec (1300 AD). Yet apparently no mention of our current one. Multiple visits to the Earth at periods through out our (pre) and present history by the Engineers. For what reason? Samples? Corrections? Additions? Why is humanity and the continuation of its development and civilisation upto enabling space travel of value to them when they already fly between the stars?
    The Head chamber with the ampules containing exactly what in them ??? Corpses scattered on the floor suggesting already failed "conversion" experiments? What purpose does that serve ? If "a king reigns and then he dies" what does he need to do to ensure his resurrection?
    In just thirty days from now some of us will know!
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    May 2, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1674

    Face it, CT - the von Daniken aspect of the plot just isn't going to make any sense and will be meat for fan retconning for decades.

    But the film had me at head-explodey.
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    May 2, 2012 - Re: Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details #1675

    CutThumb said: View Post
    The star maps and gaps between the civilizations they are found in are interesting. Magdalenian (15,000 BC) were hunter gathers. Mesopotamian (5300 BC) said to be the origin of the myth of the Garden of Eden and the cradle of civilization.Then Aztec (1300 AD). Yet apparently no mention of our current one. Multiple visits to the Earth at periods through out our (pre) and present history by the Engineers. For what reason? Samples? Corrections? Additions? Why is humanity and the continuation of its development and civilisation upto enabling space travel of value to them when they already fly between the stars?
    The Head chamber with the ampules containing exactly what in them ??? Corpses scattered on the floor suggesting already failed "conversion" experiments? What purpose does that serve ? If "a king reigns and then he dies" what does he need to do to ensure his resurrection?
    In just thirty days from now some of us will know!

    I thought the idea is that the engineers engineered us. So I guess that would give them a reason to visit us, to see how we're getting on maybe

    Alternativly, I'm sure I read somewhere that theres some sort of time travel in the film & maybe the human race was started as a result of the events shown in the film??
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