I'm not up on all my Alien lore (I had to Google Xenomorph just make sure it was what I thought it was). I've seen the first 3 flicks and I enjoyed them all...
but, the more I see of Prometheus and read this thread the more I like and am really, really looking forward to seeing this...
It's a different type of acticipation than I fee for The Avengers flick... but, in a good way.
This is probably Lv426 and that Noomi chick is Ripley's mom who got impregnated by space jockey.
for the cause
the original SJ
hoping to see the newer interior have these 'giegeresque' features
but not quite seeing it here..
as compared to here
i guess there's lots of room for explanations
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I rather like that they didn't. OTOH I suspect I am going to be very disappointed in the level of (non)biomechanicalism in this film.I would think they would make bigger changes to suggest that. One detail they obviously kept the same is the 3 openings where we saw the Nostromo crew enter.
But I've been suspecting that for a couple of years now, or however long it's been since Ridley revealed the "suit" spoiler for the Space Jockey.
There's definite revisionism here; that puts this into a side universe as far as I'm concerned.
The original Derelict is in good hands right now and could surely have been made available for scanning...
Just kidding; it's all stuff that could be worked out from what's been shown so far.
I'm not looking to get too deep into this, but I think we're looking at a functional pre-xeno jockey/chair/chamber in the new film. In Alien, it's all been covered in "secreted resin" and turned into an egg chamber and nest by the xeno's.
The red piping on the spacesuit made me think of the Proto-Alien flick Planet of the Vampires' space suits.
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Also Planet of the Vampires has infested spacemen zombies-
Wait, hang on, I thought we'd agreed that's what he HAS DONE.
I'm getting confused!!!
My point is, 'just wanting to rework things' simply because you can, without lifting a finger to explain WHY they now look different, is a slack approach to filmmaking which wouldn't have passed muster in our grandparent's day. Harrumph, and all.
It looks good,maybe think of it as a pre-Alien,takes place in another universe film.
I'll watch it.
Lots of interesting questions raised. Bearing in mind the principle photography wrapped only a few months ago ,most of what we are seeing looks well advanced. But theres nothing from the Alicante (Spanish part of the shoot) in the underwater tank that I can tell. And it was cheap to shoot in the landscape of Iceland because of the collapse of its economy......... I do wish they hadn't just used a grader to scrape a roadway for the vehicles to drive on though.
The original small planetoid in Alien has a very violent and primative atmosphere and it is unlikely that ANY spacecraft crashing there would survive for any LONG period of time without suffering serious degredation of the hull structure. So the original derelict cannot have been there for thousands of years without being buried or reduced to a heap of dust eroded rubble. The same reasoning applies to the possible derelict in the new film. As there is already flaming debris and running humans scattered around the site as it crashes I guess this is just after the Magellen has smashed into it to prevent it taking off.
Its definitely Holloway thats got the green goo skin forming over his face. Its definitely a SJ skull on the examination table. You have seen the skeleton and the skull in one of the original set of still pictures released about a month ago in the ampule room (some people thought it was an egg, despite the eye sockets)! and he is as large as the original SJ. The first biomorph (facehugger) was described by Ash as being able to "shed cells and replace them with polarized silicon which gives it a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." It used Kanes body to grow an Alien so that there MUST be a biological connection shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. That the DNA of the film is related to Alien is widely being hinted at by Ridley all the time.
As a minutes worth of trailer compare it with the original one for Alien and then really try to remember just how different that turned out to be in the end.
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Has anyone noticed it looks a lot like Alien?
This sort of adding to the mythology is what diluted the Star Wars universe. I hope to be able to see this film as a stand-alone piece, taking place in an entirely alternate universe to Alien, thus protecting my interpretation and enjoyment of the original. In the same way that there were only ever three Star Wars movies. And they never came out in Blu-Ray.
In the same sense that I never had any problem with the differences between the Millenium Falcon models throughout the movies, or the Star Destroyers, or Vader's costume. Likewise for the changes to the alien "warriors" in Aliens (though I disliked the xeno variants in everything since).Nwerke said:
I'm actually having a harder time with the "engineer" suit retcon. The only way I can see that working better for me is if what formerly looked like a backpack (and was originally bone colored) somehow grows the ribs that wrap around the "suit" like some sort of harness that integrates it all for the "grown out of the chair" appearance.
I'm certainly not holding my breath for it, but I do think certain things like that could make for a good case for CGI, to add the bio-mechanical elements that are missing.
I'm a little late to this party, but I must say that trailer looks incredible.
From what I've read (and obviously the clue's in the movie's title) it looks as though we'll have quite a few questions answered regards the first film.
I've always wondered why facehuggers were exactly the correct size to grip a human head, while placing a seed down the throat.
Could the jockey be a kinda DNA gun, used to project DNA across the universe?
I'm really looking forward to this movie!
Dan, it's a pretty major change, though. From something that completely looks grown/alive, to something bone-shaped but metallic/mechanical in nature. It's a bit like another YT-1300 freighter turned up in Star Wars, but was covered in scales instead of plating.
I might have a hard time accepting it if the planet in this film is supposed to be LV-426 and the ship is supposed to be the same derelict as in ALIEN. I'm hoping that there's more to it than that.
details, schmetails. Perhaps it'll all be explained in the movie or perhaps it won't and the movie will be so good it won't matter.
Yep I'm a blind optimist with regards to Mr. Scott's work.
DECKARD IS A REPLICANT!!!
If I remember "Dangerous Days" correctly, Ridley got annoyed because people on the set of Blade Runner kept questioning him on why it was raining all the time. His reply was "Because I #@!%@%$#*% want it to!"
After watching that documentary, I am sure everything in Prometheus is going to be exactly how he wants it.
I CAN NOT WAIT! I want to see this movie more than the Avengers, The Hobbit, and the Dark Knight combined!
And I still can not stop thinking of how insane I am going to be when I get to see pics and a trailer for whatever Ridley does with Blade Runner.
I dont hate the Star Wars prequels, but watching the Prometheus trailer makes me imagine how great they could have been.