Even better, they will be doing play by play on Twitter. Or posting a video of it on youtube.Wes R said:
"ZOMG!!! I just saw some kid get jumped by guys w/guns. Check out my blog: Little Hipster in the Big City"
Even better, they will be doing play by play on Twitter. Or posting a video of it on youtube.Wes R said:
"ZOMG!!! I just saw some kid get jumped by guys w/guns. Check out my blog: Little Hipster in the Big City"
Meanwhile, the Zombie Apocalypse people would be having a field day with it. They'd be all like: "Sweet! We don't have to just shoot them in the head!"
Fighting with your Brother over the last Fudgescicle doesn't count.Mola Rob said:
Why exactly? Does my dislike of certain aspects of Red Dawn make you think I am from a certain age group? Am I supposed to worship the movie due to it's views and subject matter?Kerr Avon said:
Just curious. I have noticed that if you don't have a positive outlook towards this movie people assume it's because of the politics and that is not the case. I find the movie entertaining as an action movie but totally simplistic in its presentation and depth. In other words it could have been so much more.
No, your age group specifically will show what your perspective and life experiences were during a particular age where the Cold War was a big part of people's lives. If you grew up after that point, then you would not have experienced the real, justifiable fear people experienced during that period and wouldn't have a perspective that would make the movie relevant and timely for you. If you grew up after that, you simply won't understand the mindset of the time and setting of the movie. Still haven't answered the question though, how old are you?Mola Rob said:
I'm 44 and quite familiar with the fears and mindset that were prevalent during the Cold War. I simply don't think Red Dawn presented those concepts in a realistic and totally compelling manner. It was a great concept not particularly carried out in the best possible way. Good action, bad drama.Kerr Avon said:
Interesting. Well I think you'd be in the minority when it came to opinions on the original movie.Mola Rob said:
I seem to be in the minority and I am looking forward to this quite a bit. North Koreans, Chinese, Russians, Germans, Danish, Canadians, Martians - could be anyone for all I'm concerned about... to me, it's not about the exact couse, but how the rebels deal with their situation.
This is very obviously a fictional situation and an action movie. It doesn't pretend to be a documentary or a drama based on a real situation.
I don't believe a bunch of kids found a pirate ship in an old cave or that Marty went to 1955 and that didn't ruin my enjoyments of those movies either.
Well I didn't say I hated the original. It's hokey, takes itself way too seriously, and is just a bit mushy in the head but I still find it entertaining (and funny).
Back to the subject. I'm actually looking forward to the remake in a guilty pleasure kind of way.
I totally get you, Mola Rob.
It's a fairly simple observation to say that the movie just isn't very good. Has nothing to do with not getting it, not appreciating it, not realizing it's impact etc. It's just a silly movie that takes itself way too seriously. End of story.
Fun to watch in a guilty-pleasure sort of way, but it's no Oscar-winner. I think that's all you were trying to say.
It's only 'silly' to people because we've not had a foreign military invasion in the US before. It's very unlikely, but I imagine other countries that have had armies march through their country would disagree.Lutso said:
They stolen Our story:In Red Dawn, a city in Washington state awakens to the surreal sight of foreign paratroopers dropping from the sky – shockingly, the U.S. has been invaded and their hometown is the initial target. Quickly and without warning, the citizens find themselves prisoners and their town under enemy occupation. Determined to fight back, a group of young patriots seek refuge in the surrounding woods, training and reorganizing themselves into a guerilla group of fighters. Taking inspiration from their high school mascot, they call themselves the Wolverines, banding together to protect one another, liberate their town from its captors, and take back their freedom.
At the RPF, A Forum awakens to the surreal sight of foreign MODS running the site – shockingly, the Site has been Hijacked and the Forum is the initial target. Quickly and without warning, the Member find themselves prisoners and their Site under enemy occupation. Determined to fight back, a group of young patriots seek refuge at an alternate site, training and reorganizing themselves into a guerrilla group of fighters. Taking inspiration from an old movie, they call themselves the Wolverines, banding together to protect one another, liberate their Site and members from its captors, and take back their freedom.
Seems to forget the War of 1812.....The war of 1812 Song (Original) - YouTubeKerr Avon said:
Ive been watching some 80's stuff on Netflix lately and you just gotta appreciate it for what it is. Time Rider, The Final Countdown, Buck Rogers......all come off as campy tongue in cheek compared to todays standards. But fun to watch none the less. I haven't re-watched Red Dawn since it was in theaters, but im willing to bet it will fall into the same category.
Im really surprised the producers backed off the slightly plausible scenario of China calling in their debt. Saddened more like it. China won this behind the scenes battle without firing a shot.
You are correct. His opinion was the minority when I saw the film in theaters. In fact only the 'pot smoking hippie types' were the only ones to lambast and try to denigrate the original film so much.Kerr Avon said:
Not saying that the poster is one of THOSE, but I ran into a lot of lefties who felt the same way.
I did a stint at Checkpoint Charlie during the year Red Dawn (the Original) was released. Yes, I was an MP at the time. Military reaction to the movie? Wel other than a little outrage that "We" (the armed forces of the US) were depicted as being so 'useless in defending the home nation" , most guys in my unit loved the movie as a 'rah rah' popcorn film. Sure, it was corny and flawed, but some of the themes were very powerful to us.
Anyone (who was NOT a radical left winger) during this time actually feared being taken over by the Soviets. Sure, we knew that we could kick their asses militarily but there was always a doubt in the back of our minds "Could the Reds do something completely unexpected and actually make headway in a land invasion?" It was a dark fantasy of a world we definitely did NOT WANT TO LIVE IN. Was it possible? Not really, but it technically was not IMPOSSIBLE at the time.
I thought there were some powerful messages of patriotism and fighting for your home. Sure I recognized how these messages weren't depicted all that well, but I still think the original film rocked. But then, I really HATED the communists. Anyone who pulled duty near the BERLIN WALL remembers all the memorials and flowers for all the people whom the Communists killed trying to get over the wall. So that might have skewed my view.
Also, being someone who was very FAMILIAR with Soviet/Warsaw Pact vehicles and aircraft, I was VERY IMPRESSED that the film bothered to try to simulate all of the vehicles, weapons, uniforms and aircraft that the Soviets would have used. That took a lot of effort!
Thanks for the explanation. For a minute, it seemed that he was insulting any sort of patriotism. Which would actually itself be offensive. Whether or not the film succeeded is valid grounds for debate, but the original 'vibe' of the post seemed like he was ridiculing viewers for feeling some of the powerful messages of the original film.Lutso said:
Went to see Total Recall and saw the Red Dawn trailer. It looks like it might be pretty good. I loved the original so I HAVE to see the remake!
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