Prometheus (Post-release)

I was going to respond individually to some of the posts, but this is the internet so who the f*** cares, right? I'll just say that I'm continually amazed by the stunted imaginations on display in this thread and elsewhere. The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards ...

ProfKSergeev said:

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I was going to respond individually to some of the posts, but this is the internet so who the f*** cares, right? I'll just say that I'm continually amazed by the stunted imaginations on display in this thread and elsewhere. The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards ...

Lets keep going Jeyl, the ratings go through the roof when we interact.

ProfKSergeev said:

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I was going to respond individually to some of the posts, but this is the internet so who the f*** cares, right? I'll just say that I'm continually amazed by the stunted imaginations on display in this thread and elsewhere. The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards ...

And folks here thought I was bad.

Your attitude is on the line of trolling. I don't think it's appropriate to come in here to post about an off-topic discussion regarding users and say how amoebas they are and how they will never accomplish anything of value. I for one would have liked to have seen what you had to say in response to other users' posts because I 'DO CARE' about discussing Prometheus. Good thoughts, bad thoughts, I welcome them. But you're not doing yourself any favors complaining about people who post on the internet just so you can make a point that you don't like people who complain on the internet.

lmfao you mad bro

he said something (that I 100% agree with) that hit one of your nerves and you cry Troll?

Werstrooper said:

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lmfao you mad bro

he said something (that I 100% agree with) that hit one of your nerves and you cry Troll?

If you agree 100% with what he said Id also love to know why you would even bother to come here let alone hitch your horse to his wagon.

Werstrooper said:

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lmfao you mad bro

he said something (that I 100% agree with) that hit one of your nerves and you cry Troll?

This isn't a thread about people who pick on works of art. This is a thread ABOUT a work of art. When someone comes into the discussion and starts labeling others as "amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value" I don't think they're being respectful to the discussion.

Please extend respect to others. Discussion and debate may lead to heated disagreement; approach them in a civil manner, showing respect for the other person's point of view.

I thought I was actually having a respectful discussion about Prometheus and trying to be respectful to the individual I was in discussions with. I'm not telling them that they're stupid for disagreeing with my opinion and I certainly am not telling them that they're wasting their time and are a low form of life.

Mr Webber said:

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If you agree 100% with what he said Id also love to know why you would even bother to come here let alone hitch your horse to his wagon.

Are you mistaking me for someone that doesnt like Prometheus? because that's how I'm reading your post.

Jeyl said:

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This isn't a thread about people who pick on works of art. This is a thread ABOUT a work of art. When someone comes into the discussion and starts labeling others as "amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value" I don't think they're being respectful to the discussion.

Please extend respect to others. Discussion and debate may lead to heated disagreement; approach them in a civil manner, showing respect for the other person's point of view.

I thought I was actually having a respectful discussion about Prometheus and trying to be respectful to the individual I was in discussions with. I'm not telling them that they're stupid for disagreeing with my opinion and I certainly am not telling them that they're wasting their time and are a low form of life.

Now maybe you might see how irratating nickpickers are, he was voicing his frustrations on the attitudes of some whining members, sure he may have stretched the limits a little but hey, let the guy have a vent and let it be.

problem is he hit a nerve with you, or his post made you feel like you had to explain yourself. thats not his problem, that's yours. you can ignore him, or report him, but to turn around and say he's on the line of trolling is just pathetic. I'm trired of people being called trolls just because they have voiced an opinion.

it happens in almost every thread.

another example is the robocop thread, that is for movie news, updates and information in the upcomming Robocop movie right? Nope, it's a "lets ***** and moan about every ****ing detail thats put in front of our eyes and lets not have any form of constructive conversation"

So, call me a Troll, I honestly don't care, I'll even be proud to say I am one if it means sticking up for something I like/love. But I will admit right now, that the constant whining and complaining that happens on this site is just plain pathetic. So i'll quote ProfKSergeev agian "The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards"

Scapey said:

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The warning from the LV-426 ship has been broadcasting for a very long time already, by the time of Alien.

And, questionably canonicity aside, there's reference on the Blu-ray special features to the beacon, with one line stating that David himself is aware of it.

From the text accompanying the Quite Eye video - As fate would have it, their interest in Zeta 2 Reticuli has proven to be mutually beneficial....My science division's own long range scans have recently detected a faint almost imperceptible signal emanating from one of the lesser moons in that system. And contrary to the findings of Shaw, which target LV-223, our findings suggest the point of origin could actually be the moon LV-426.
Per standard procedure, we will embed a David 8 unit with the crew...But only David will know about 426 and will ensure the rest of the crew learn nothing about the transmission we've recently discovered until the time is right.

Well, I finally saw it. I was really hoping for the best (really wanted to like it). I went in with lowered expectations due to the comments I've read here and elsewhere. My fears (even with lowered expectations) were realized. After I digested what I had just seen an image popped into my head -- swiss cheese -- deli thin, bland and full of holes. I am not trying to be clever, it literally popped into my head after seeing this movie.

It was evident that Ridley and Co. had laid out some marks to hit, but then rushed too quickly to hit a few of them -- hurry up over here now quickly go over there, oh forget about that one over there. This was interjected with by what seemed tacked on "must haves".

I felt no connection to any character in the film (hollow shells), I therefore had no interest in what happened to them. I don't blame the actors (which were fine), but what they had to work with.

They seemed to tack on the whole alien horror aspect to what should have been a higher level of story (they chickened out big time here). They opted for utterly forgettable teenage fluff rather than potential timeless masterwork.

The fatal flaw for me was the predictability of just about the whole thing (in a cringing sort of way). Ridley (and committee) really phoned this one in and it shows.

The only saving grace was what the production designers gave us to look at -- eye candy.

Rating: Regrettably forgettable.




Doug

ProfKSergeev said:

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I was going to respond individually to some of the posts, but this is the internet so who the f*** cares, right? I'll just say that I'm continually amazed by the stunted imaginations on display in this thread and elsewhere. The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards ...

You've, you've earned this....


I supose we should feel honored to have you drop in to dispense your pearls of wisdom to us commoners. You do realize that this is what people do about everything in life, right?!

wannab said:

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It was evident that Ridley and Co. had laid out some marks to hit, but then rushed too quickly to hit a few of them --

Doug

My thoughts exactly.

MooCriket said:

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You've, you've earned this....


I supose we should feel honored to have you drop in to dispense your pearls of wisdom to us commoners. You do realize that this is what people do about everything in life, right?!

Easily worth a replay.

God, are we still at this?!

It's a dumb movie. I can't fault Doug's critique at all, but I wouldn't call anyone dumb for liking it, though. For me it ticked a lot more boxes than it should have given the holes. I'll pick it up on BR and enjoy it from time to time.

Roll on Blade Runner 2. Which will be significantly MORE infuriating and disappointing, and I suspect I'll like it just the same. Wow, developing a new appreciation for post-good cinema, here.

ProfKSergeev said:

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I'll just say that I'm continually amazed by the stunted imaginations on display in this thread and elsewhere. The gulf between what Ridley Scott and his colleagues can do on a bad day and what all the naysayers here are collectively capable of is immeasurable. And to think that people still bother to make art just so amoebas who will never accomplish anything of value can spend their lives picking it apart on message boards ...

I didn't pick this apart glad I'm not an amoeba...

crabra comander said:

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I didn't pick this apart glad I'm not an amoeba...

Kinda makes you wonder, that if the amoebas can't produce anything, what does that say about the folks who berate the amoebas who berate the film?

Vicious cycle.

Dave Ward said:

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I love Prometheus but I still can't buy that there's an engineer in that suit from Alien.

That was the biggest twist in Prometheus. I always thought that the Space Jockey was related to the Aliens. Everything about his look and the design of the ship were like the Aliens. That's why I think the Prometheus sequel has a lot to explain with the Engineer/Space Jockey twist and this new origin (or new) Alien creature.

Wakeem said:

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That was the biggest twist in Prometheus. I always thought that the Space Jockey was related to the Aliens. Everything about his look and the design of the ship were like the Aliens. That's why I think the Prometheus sequel has a lot to explain with the Engineer/Space Jockey twist and this new origin (or new) Alien creature.

Well, as we've learned from prior ALIEN movies, the alien takes on traits of it's host species. So if anything, the alien looks like the engineers.



I saw this for the second time, last night, and I'm still confused about the black goo.

They find all this black slime, no idea what it is, yet they take no precautions around it.

The vile that David finds, the green one with the black goop in it - is that the same black goop that's all over the vases and floor, or is it something else? Is it the same goop that turned one guy into a zombie, put a worm in another guy, and disolved the engineer in the beginning? If so, that is one magic goop.


And why is Weyland so intent on killing his entire crew? If the engineer could save him, maybe he'd need the crew to get him back home. Instead, he has David running biological experiments on them, with no idea what the black goo, even does. I'm assuming it's Weyland telling David "hey, if you find something sticky, make somebody drink it.". Suppose it wasn't some bio-weapon, just some kind of rocket fuel, or alien ketchup.

And speaking of David, why does he insist on pressing every button he finds?

It was a pretty movie to look at it, but a lot of things don't make sense.

-Fred

Trilobite rapes Engineer. Toys"R"Us Exclusive!

*Dad's playing with his toys he got at Toys"R"Us*
Child: Uh, dad? Why are you putting the red thing in the guy's mouth?
Dad: Oh! Well, you see. When a goofy looking super vagina™ and a tall bald albino™ love each other very much...

What the f...

Jedi2016 said:

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What the f...

What? Prometheus already established that this fatal act of rape is still an interspecies act. God forbid that Trilobite be an actual alien.

It's the fact that they made a toy out of it that boggles the mind.

Gigatron said:

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Well, as we've learned from prior ALIEN movies, the alien takes on traits of it's host species. So if anything, the alien looks like the engineers.

I think you both are confusing the Engineers with their suits. The Engineers look like us, their suits look like a Giger designed alien. But an alien birthed from an Engineer using the accepted canon of alien resembling host will look like us. But in ALIEN, we had a human, Kane, give birth to an alien with the classic bio-mechanicl design, so that's what an alien birthed from and Engineer would theoretically look like as well. Perhaps it's simply coincidental that the creatures resemble their suits, or perhaps not.