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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1551

    Jeyl said: View Post
    So, why not just say "God doesn't make straight roads"? He's being quite absolute when he says "God doesn't build in straight lines".
    He could have just as easily said God does not make perfect circles, because there were also giant circles on the ground, yet there are perfect circles in nature.

    If you want to be so literal, explain what you meant by the map?
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1552

    Jeyl said: View Post
    So, why not just say "God doesn't make straight roads"? He's being quite absolute when he says "God doesn't build in straight lines".
    Because Lindelof is too preoccupied with creating awesome quotable and deep sounding dialogue!




    'God' basically does whatever it wants.


    One of the clunkiest lines I thought was David's "doesn't every child want to kill their parents?" - eh... no. Not sure where the heck that came from.

    And "Every King has their reign and then he dies" - does anyone actually speak like that????
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1553

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    And "Every King has their reign and then he dies" - does anyone actually speak like that????
    No, but I still like it.

    And I thought the same thing about David saying that when I first heard it, however it's probably supposed to clue us in on the fact he's just nucking futs. Not everyone thinks that, but perhaps he does, so he assumes people do as well.

    "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one your with" is still my favorite scene to quote from. My friend Danny and I use "You a a robot Vickers?" as a line when we see a pretty girl. It worked for the guy that flys the ship, why not us?
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1554

    Kit Rae said: View Post
    But those retarded xenos were intelligent enough to cut the power
    Id say their retarded acid blood did that.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1555

    blipper said: View Post
    And "Every King has their reign and then he dies" - does anyone actually speak like that????
    A line so great they used it for the opening of the theatrical trailer.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1556

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    Id say their retarded acid blood did that.
    If the aliens spontaneously bleed that much acid on their own, the Nostromo would have been totaled long before the Dallas went into the vents.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1558

    That was the thing I went to. I think I was meant to be in hypersleep at one stage but spent the time being super beaky around the vehicles.
    I also got told I looked 'ill' at one point and ordered to visit the ship infirmary. When I got there I explained that I may have inadvertantly stepped in some peculiar black goo. The Shaw look-alike looked at me oddly and sent me to some kind of space-yoga class - needless to say, I promptly 'escaped'.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1559

    blipper said: View Post
    And "Every King has their reign and then he dies" - does anyone actually speak like that????
    I think that is a very loose quote from something in The Golden Bough. And it makes perfect sense for Vickers to say it. Great line.

    blipper said: View Post
    One of the clunkiest lines I thought was David's "doesn't every child want to kill their parents?" - eh... no. Not sure where the heck that came from.
    Sigmund Freud. From David's perspective, that Freudian line of BS actually works in his case.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1560

    NAZGŰL said: View Post
    Id say their retarded acid blood did that.
    They probably would have had to take a leak every now and then.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1561

    Kit Rae said: View Post
    I think that is a very loose quote from something in The Golden Bough. And it makes perfect sense for Vickers to say it. Great line.


    Sigmund Freud. From David's perspective, that Freudian line of BS actually works in his case.
    And don't forget the Einstein riff. Which just illustrates my point that Lindelof is desperate to show how clever he is without regard to how it actually sounds by hamfistedly inserting the words of profound minds wherever he can. It comes across as someone who's done a crash course in symbolism - book smart vs street smart.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1562

    blipper said: View Post
    And don't forget the Einstein riff. Which just illustrates my point that Lindelof is desperate to show how clever he is without regard to how it actually sounds by hamfistedly inserting the words of profound minds wherever he can. It comes across as someone who's done a crash course in symbolism - book smart vs street smart.
    Well, I would say that pretty much fits how David learned completely. So if Lindehof is writing David's line in that matter, it would be fairly in character and realistic.

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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1563

    Exactly.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1564

    Exactly what? David's ambiguity can be used to excuse poor writing?
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1566

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    If the aliens spontaneously bleed that much acid on their own, the Nostromo would have been totaled long before the Dallas went into the vents.
    Why bleed it when you can spit?



    Also given the number of xenos bumrushing the sentry guns, its not hard to imagine acid blood causing a shortcut.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1567

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    Well, I would say that pretty much fits how David learned completely. So if Lindehof is writing David's line in that matter, it would be fairly in character and realistic.

    Charlie
    Wow. I almost never use this phrase to describe something, but this is a classic case of giving a person way too much credit where it isn't deserved. There is a good reason why his contributions for LOST have earned him a reputation as a writer who thinks that A LOT of unresolved conflicts and unanswered questions are the basis of a good story.

    While Lindelof is a genius at getting work, he's not a genius when it comes to the work. If you keep tabs on entertainment news, he gets more jobs as a "script doctor" than an actual writer brought in from day one. With Prometheus, Lindelof was hired because everyone decided late in the game to turn Jon Spaihts' original script from a direct alien prequel into a loosely connected spinoff instead. Even though I have been nagging on Scott's last decade of work, the problems that are brought into Prometheus are without a doubt Lindelof's contributions. His effort in making this film more of a stand alone piece probably resulted in the creation of life on earth, meaningless religious undertones, characters acting stupid, Weyland wanting to live forever, and probably my most loathed bit, turning the Space Jockeys into handsome Squidwards who just look the way they did in ALIEN because they were wearing a freaking suit.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1568

    NAZGŰL said: View Post
    Why bleed it when you can spit?



    Also given the number of xenos bumrushing the sentry guns, its not hard to imagine acid blood causing a shortcut.
    #1. The alien spitting acid from Resurrection was an intentional act from the creature, not the same as their constant pouring of non-acidic saliva. If that's how you're going to spin it, than cutting the power was still an intentional act by the creatures.

    #2. The time between the last sentry fight and the actual cutting of the power is too long. Alien acid has at least a lifespan of 50 seconds, yet by the time the power gets cut, a couple of hours have already passed. Plus if the power was cut in the hallways, why was the power not cut anywhere else like the hallway that Ripley and Hicks escape into? Heck, the elevator still works. They only cut power to the areas where our characters were held off in, Medical and Operations.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1569

    Jeyl said: View Post
    His effort in making this film more of a stand alone piece probably resulted in the creation of life on earth, meaningless religious undertones, characters acting stupid, Weyland wanting to live forever, and probably my most loathed bit, turning the Space Jockeys into handsome Squidwards who just look the way they did in ALIEN because they were wearing a freaking suit.
    To be fair, as much as Lindelof should take responsibility for his share of the poor writing, as I understand it Spaight is the one who concocted the face-palming mystery vacuum of humans and Space Jockeys being connected.
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    Jul 3, 2012 - Re: Prometheus (Post-release) #1570

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    Not if everyone and everything is dead.
    So that means they know they kill 10 people in the immediate area and the entire planet is dead....gotcha
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    So that means they know they kill 10 people in the immediate area and the entire planet is dead....gotcha
    No other forms of animal life, and no other human settlements and no means of transportation. If there were other settlements, don't you think that the prisoners would be able to sack them since they can walk freely outside of the complex?
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    Blu-ray special features:

    Disc 1 (Prometheus 2D) (150 ‘bonus):
    On the record:
    Deleted Scenes or alternative (15 ‘)
    Audio commentary by director (120 ‘)
    The private records of Peter Weyland, four viral videos (18 ‘):
    - The offer of Elizabeth Shaw
    - Happy Birthday David
    - Prometheus Transmission (extended version)
    - Weyland conference in 2023 (long version)
    Beyond the disk: Second Screen App: App iPad Control Blu-ray remote which gives access to archives of Peter Weyland (60 ‘):
    Pre-production:
    - First and last jet the script (text)
    - Sketches of Ridley Scott (photo gallery)
    - The Art of Prometheus (photo gallery)
    - Pre-visualization (30 ‘)
    - Tests of Noomi Rapace (15 ‘)
    - The costume design (photo gallery )
    - Attempts to “look” of the cast (10 ‘)
    Production:
    - Charts panel video
    - Photographs of the team
    - Video of the private pilot
    and Post-Production release:
    - Marketing Gallery

    Disc 2 (Prometheus 3D):
    The active 3D movie

    Disc 3 (Bonus complementary Prometheus):
    The Gods angry: how to make the Prometheus of Ridley Scott, 9 videos (120 ‘):
    - The conquest of Paradise (scenario)
    - in reverse engineering (construction & design)
    - The human manifest (characters & costumes)
    - A nest of demons (of creatures design)
    - A world without green spaces (Pinewood Studios)
    - Gains of chance (stunts & action )
    - The beginning and end (Iceland)
    - The sky on fire (visual effects)
    - Prometheus without limits (post-production and theatrical release)
    Units of improvement (30 ‘):
    - Mini-featurettes
    The archives of Peter Weyland ( 60 ‘)
    http://www.amazon.fr/Prometheus-Blu-...dp/B002L730I4/
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    Jeyl said: View Post
    No other forms of animal life, and no other human settlements and no means of transportation. If there were other settlements, don't you think that the prisoners would be able to sack them since they can walk freely outside of the complex?

    I'm saying from the Aliens standpoint..The Alien was probably killing anything it saw as a threat to the unborn queen..After it's born and at a size it could protect itself and start laying eggs, it has to do is wait..It has no idea that there are possibly no other lifeforms on the planet
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    I finally saw it today. I spent a lot of the movie thinking everyone took the worst option available in any situation. From the moment the engineer drank that stuff and fell into the waterfall. Then the whole weirdness with Shaw getting pregnant, having a c-section to get her baby squid out, which then grew into a giant face hugger. That nobody seemed to notice, including the life support system. I still enjoyed it even with the weak writing.

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