Prometheus (Post-release)

A few things I noticed watching the film the second time around:

Did anyone else notice that when the crew returned to the dome for the second visit, David was following behind in one of the smaller dune buggy vehicles as he was going off on his own to check out the possibly malfunctioning probe. As the larger transport passed inside the dome walls ahead of him...way ahead of him, David slowed to a complete stop, roughly over the hangar bay doors of the Engineer ship. The camera stayed on him for a few seconds as he was stopped, then cuts to another scene. At first I thought this was just a David "moment" as he looked at the view, but I think there is more to it than that.

When the Prometheus goes into orbit, after Shaw and Holloway's meeting with Vickers, we see a scene of the crew doing scans and such on the planet, including David sending transmissions trying to get a response from the Engineers (the "provided your thesis is correct" scene). I got a good look at the holographics of what he was sending. Looked like something from the Voyager space craft messages. Lots of different things from different cultures, music, art, DaVinci, et cetera. Seems he was trying all the languages the Engineers may have possibly learned on Earth. I think I spotted an image of Linda Blair in her exorcist makeup in there too

This one was easy to spot the first time, but paid extra attention the second time as people were complaining about it. As they are entering the atmosphere and the female scientist is telling the captain about the atmosphere and surface content, one of the two other guys in the bridge crew says -
"Bringing data up. We've got a couple of hard spots. Could be metal"

Then we get a minute of various scenes showing the ship passing over lots of different terrain just above the planets surface. Read as = many hours of elapsed time as they search for the "metal".
Then,
"No radio and no heat source."

Then the captain tells them to go through the gateway between the rocks, just prior to visually confirmation of the domes. They had been searching for those "hard spots of metal" since entering the atmosphere. They appeared to be in the graphics of several of the monitors in these scenes as well.

How many times have you seen it stated how ridiculous it was that they just
"happened upon" the Engineers domes without having to look for them?

When Shaw tells the captain "we're going in" as they enter the dome, he says "copy that". His lips don't move Got to have on of those in every Ridley Scott movie.

When Shaw tells Holloway "Don't be an idiot" as he is unfastening his helmet in the waterfall room, he replies "Don't be a skeptic". As others have noted, he believed he was about to meet his maker, and did not think for a second anything would harm him in this place.

Now as to why the rest of them then proceeded to take their helmets off...That should have been handled better in the film.

In the cave after the waterfall scene we get this dialogue:
"It's minus 12 in here."
"So why is this water not frozen?"

Anyone else mention one of those sculpted murals the crew was looking at had in the center a figure that looked just like the creature at the end...which is odd.

Dr Talyn said:

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Anyone else mention one of those sculpted murals the crew was looking at had in the center a figure that looked just like the creature at the end...which is odd.

If you hop on over to the Prometheus sequel thread we noted that... and had some theories about it

super excited, watching tongiht!! with friends..

Kit Rae said:

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When Shaw tells Holloway "Don't be an idiot" as he is unfastening his helmet in the waterfall room, he replies "Don't be a skeptic". As others have noted, he believed he was about to meet his maker, and did not think for a second anything would harm him in this place.

Now as to why the rest of them then proceeded to take their helmets off...That should have been handled better in the film.

I REALLY thought that was a key moment that tells a lot about Holloway's later drinking in disappointment. He is SO excited. This isn't at all methodical scientific research for him. This is a defining life moment and he is much more Indiana Jones in this moment than a sterile researcher in a lab going from step one to step two.

I also thought, in watching this scene a second time that great (hollywood) pains were expended to show that everyone thought what Holloway was doing was insane... but once it was done, it was done, so there seemed little reason not to follow his lead. Again, this is a mishmash of scientists who don't seem to have any clear procedure and protocol on handling certain environments. To me, this scene was almost solely about Holloway's belief and didn't seem nearly as stupid as many are claiming it to be.

alienscollection.com said:

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It cracked me up to note just how much David walks around in flipflops.

BTW, does David dye his hair to make himself look more like Peter O'Toole?

Art Andrews said:

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BTW, does David dye his hair to make himself look more like Peter O'Toole?

No. He dyes the roots of his hair to make himself look more like Peter O'Toole.

Art Andrews said:

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BTW, does David dye his hair to make himself look more like Peter O'Toole?

That was the impression I got too.

I just got back from my second viewing and have to say Prometheus is growing on me, even though I found very little to be disappointed in on the first viewing.

You know what I thought when Charlie took his helmet off? How effin' cool it would be to breath air on a whole other planet. Granted, traveling to other planets is probably not a big deal in their day and age.

But once they determined the air was cleaner than our own, hell, I'd of done it.

Love the movie or hate the movie, cant deny it's spawning threads on the RPF like tribbles!!

Noeland said:

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You know what I thought when Charlie took his helmet off? How effin' cool it would be to breath air on a whole other planet. Granted, traveling to other planets is probably not a big deal in their day and age.

But once they determined the air was cleaner than our own, hell, I'd of done it.

See! I think a lot of the actions that we see as stupid tie back to that! Still having a tough time with Milburn, but I am trying!

Mr Webber said:

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When we first see David, his hair is dark brown/red.
Dont mean to nit pick over Davids hair though..............tough room.

I don't recall him having dark brown/red hair in the first scene. I recall him having his blond hair, and in the scene where he's watching the movie, you see he's only dying his roots. But then again, I've only seen the movie once, and could be wrong.

Noeland said:

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Love the movie or hate the movie, cant deny it's spawning threads on the RPF like tribbles!!

Now we need a Prometheus sub-forum AND a Ghostbusters 3 one...

It would be risky, sure. But how often do you breath air on another planet? But I know a lot of people who would call taking a risk, any risk at all, being stupid.

CB2001 said:

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I don't recall him having dark brown/red hair in the first scene. I recall him having his blond hair, and in the scene where he's watching the movie, you see he's only dying his roots. But then again, I've only seen the movie once, and could be wrong.

Id bet the farm on him having dark hair, will try and find some confirming pics.No worries Art

Noeland said:

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It would be risky, sure. But how often do you breath air on another planet? But I know a lot of people who would call taking a risk, any risk at all, being stupid.

I found this on the IMDb Trivia section for the Prometheus page: Logan Marshall-Green described his role of Charlie Holloway as "an ESPN X-Games scientist" who leaps before he looks.

Apparently, it's true.

Mr Webber said:

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Id bet the farm on him having dark hair, will try and find some confirming pics.No worries Art

Like I said, I've only seen the film once and I could very well be wrong.

Im assuming his outfit, also very Lawrence like in design is Weyland Corp supplied so i question if it is Davids decision to adopt the Lawrence like aspects of his persona or was it programmed deliberately. Anyone with any insights into the Lawrence character? would like to know Weylands motivations, always underlining corporate intrigue with SRS.

Boy are you ever late to the party.

Mr Webber said:

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Im assuming his outfit, also very Lawrence like in design is Weyland Corp supplied so i question if it is Davids decision to adopt the Lawrence like aspects of his persona or was it programmed deliberately. Anyone with any insights into the Lawrence character? would like to know Weylands motivations, always underlining corporate intrigue with SRS.

Well, for what I know from what I've looked around at related material, Weyland mentions Lawerence of Arabia in his keynote at TED (seen here). I sort of gathered that the movie was his favorite, especially since David 8 is modeled lightly after his maker (much like how Bishop is modeled after his creator), which suggests that David 8 and Weyland share a lot of common likes (and since David 8 sort of strives to blend in, it makes sense that he would see Lawerence in the film as a potential role model to emulate, especially when every other human being on board at the time was asleep).

I don't know how trust worthy that picture is. In the film, his suit is a light gray, but that picture makes it look more like a very dark gray/black.

Introducing the David 8 - The Next Generation Weyland Robot - YouTube

In this it looks to me like he has darker roots. I was under the impression that he just dyed his roots as well, and honestly that was one of the parts of the film where I wondered why in the hell there would be hair dye on a space faring vessel.

We see him only in the process of dyeing his hair and it would make sense for the viral to have the hair colour we predominately see him with or maybe they (virals) were done after principle shooting. Wouldnt expect to see lit cigars either but hey.

Slightly OT, but a good read:

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