Prometheus (Post-release)

Bryancd said:
That's a good point and distinction. What we are saying is a weapons depot really is a place of worship and creation. It just so happens that to create they also need to destroy. So this isn't a place of destruction but creation.
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With a great big skull sitting on top of it. Mmm.

Noeland said:
According to Scott in the HBO special, this is where Prometheus takes place.
Zeta Reticuli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Well, he went out of his way to say it ISN'T, in the movie itself. They specify the place only has one planet and the opening text says outright that it is 32LY from Earth rather than 39LY as per ZR.

I'll consider that a case of Scott misspeaking, I think...

Jodo said:
My only complaint would be that I don't understand Shaw's logic of going to the home planet. She says she wants to know what changed the Engineers' minds about deystroying the population of Earth. Is it just me, or is it fairly straight forward they never did stop wanting that?
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She meant what changed their minds about creating and fostering us.

The first Space Jockey was either being punished, which it seemed that way for me, or was chosen to carry out the mission of seeding the earth.
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Voluntary self-sacrifice with a strong religious overtone was my reading. A ritual.

But why feed the guy black good,a bioweapon, which only causes bad stuff to happen?
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There are many different kinds of black goo. In the film we see that they create, and they destroy. They have different sizes of jars and ampules. Ergo...
 
I think the map is just a map and it guides to a weapons depot deliberately, if any unwanted creations turn up.....can actually follow map......then they are doomed, still by the hands of their creator.

It will be interesting to see how the engineers have changed since the 2000 year old snapshot the crew of Prometheus have of them. Despite its corny set up, was almost expecting Shaw to give a salute to the camera just before she and a head took off into the sunset, hope she makes it to the homeworld.
 
http://collider.com/ridley-scott-prometheus-deleted-scenes-interview/172202/http://collider.com/ridley-scott-prometheus-deleted-scenes-interview/172202/


Talks about how he really enjoyed making Prometheus and his desire to do the sequel. Also talks about how he thinks one of the biggest problems in our world is religion
We talk about how hard it is to make a movie that deals with serious issues when it costs over a hundred million dollars to make
How long was his first cut of Prometheus. Says it was 2 hrs. 27 minutes
Is the version in theaters his directors cut or will the home video release be the director’s cut. Talks about how he regrets not releasing the longer version of Kingdom of Heaven as his directors cut
3:22 – Says the Blu-ray will have around 30 minutes of deleted scenes
3:45 – Talks about the deleted scene between Noomi Rapace and the engineer and why it was cut out of the film
4:30 – Is the extended cut on the Blu-ray a lot longer than the theatrical release. Says that it might be 20 minutes longer (but the way he talks about it I’m not sure if he’s figured it out yet)
5:30 – Talks about a scene from the Blade Runner sequel
 
My 2 cents:
The engineers seeded life and later, when needed (or part of thier ritual) transformed that life into warriors. For what purpose? My theory was that it was part of thier mystical "faith". Imagine how alien an aliens concept of "god" could be. Perhaps a universal Holy War with other races.
 
That is what I think as well.

The Xenomorph from the original Alien is the final product. They planted life on earth to be a host for Xenomorphs. 2000 years ago was probably the time when they felt enough humans were on earth to produce the desired amount of Xenomorphs.
 
I saw the black goo as a bio weapon. It can take seemingly harmless organisms and turn them into a living weapon. That way the engineers don't need to get their hands dirty. Bomb a planet, and let the mutated inhabitants destroy themselves.

On the topic of destroying man, what If the engineers are afraid of man. If there's one constant thing about man, it's our constant need to wage war. What if the engineers were afraid that war would come to them So they thought they would strike first.

Almost like a Frankensteins monster, and the doctor wants to destroy his monster.
 
I was wondering about the space jockey's purpose before this movie came out. I did not need it to spark my curiosity. It actually kind of killed it for me.
 
Kerr Avon said:
The concept of a skull in our culture indicates poison or danger or death, but may not represent that to other cultures.
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It wasn't a skull when they first arrived, it was a face, it became a skull AFTER the silica storm. Was the first thing I noticed as they drove up to the pyramids for the first time. I was looking for the skull but it was a face.

The black goo is agnostic. It's the Genesis device from The Wrath of Kahn.
 
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Kerr - true, but if it quacks like a duck... :lol

I don't mind the 'man is not the desired end result' hypothesis, especially given that Nietschian quote cropping up in the virals - "what is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end." We know these guys can be brutal to themselves, why should we expect special treatment?

IIRC, one of the ideas floated in the original production of Alien was that the creature was sentient, but uncivilised - that perhaps if it had been raised among peers it would not be so randomly lethal. It has a huge cranium; doubtless some of that is taken up by the mechanics of the tongue but there's still got to be room for a pretty big braincase.
 
Bryancd said:
It wasn't a skull when they first arrived, it was a face, it became a skull AFTER the silica storm. Was the first thing I noticed as they drove up to the pyramids for the first time. I was looking for the skull but it was a face.
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I think it was simply covered in dust or dirt, was what it looked like to me, that was blown away by the storm.

In the original concept art (that I think is older than I am), the face slid away, down a track on the front side of the building. There's no indication of that here, that the face can change.. it appears to be simply carved into the rock.

Does make you wonder.. what's the legal status of using unused concept art from another, defunct film? Certainly there was no trouble with re-using concept art from the original Alien (especially the stuff for Nostromo, that just wasn't feasible at the time, but has now shown up on Prometheus). But in the case of the Dune artwork.. someone else paid for that. When the film fell out, did the rights to those images fall back to Giger? I don't think that was a Fox production at the time, so there's no reason for them to have had the rights for it. Just a curiosity, something I thought about when I saw the temple in the trailers.
 
Jedi2016 said:
I think it was simply covered in dust or dirt, was what it looked like to me, that was blown away by the storm.

In the original concept art (that I think is older than I am), the face slid away, down a track on the front side of the building. There's no indication of that here, that the face can change.. it appears to be simply carved into the rock.

Does make you wonder.. what's the legal status of using unused concept art from another, defunct film? Certainly there was no trouble with re-using concept art from the original Alien (especially the stuff for Nostromo, that just wasn't feasible at the time, but has now shown up on Prometheus). But in the case of the Dune artwork.. someone else paid for that. When the film fell out, did the rights to those images fall back to Giger? I don't think that was a Fox production at the time, so there's no reason for them to have had the rights for it. Just a curiosity, something I thought about when I saw the temple in the trailers.
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He may have had specific clauses in his contract allowing him to retain rights to any unused designs. I don't know anything about these things though, just speculating.
 
I think "the skull" is akin to the sphinx. It was once a face made of rock that has been battered and worn down to look like a skull. The nose is gone, etc.

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But I think it probably looked just like the head inside at one time.
 
Noeland said:
I think "the skull" is akin to the sphinx. It was once a face made of rock that has been battered and worn down to look like a skull. The nose is gone, etc.

skullhillwow.jpg


But I think it probably looked just like the head inside at one time.
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A skull is too specific a shape to occur naturally through erosion.
 
Visually excellent, with intriguing ideas and crummy scripting.

Really is a shame that the Colonial Marines didn't have the red glowy mapping pixies. Could have come in handy on LV-426 I imagine...
 
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