Ah, but did we see any older ones? If so, what scene? I've only seen two on camera in the film, the one in the beginning and the one in hibernation. The others we've seen appeared only in holographic form, unless there was some scene that I missed.AggieChick42 said:
Much more than the last one I'm sure.AggieChick42 said:
I think he was talking about the one in the beginning, but there really is no reference for scale to say for sure.CB2001 said:
The art of Prometheus states they were supposed to be 9' tall, so maybe 10' in the suit. Some of the concept art shows them 2x as tall as a man, which is what I expected the scale of the one in Alien to be based on the head and arms we see.
Really, they looked much more impressive being larger in the concept art than what we saw in the film. They would have been more intimidating.
Here a good comparison of the scale between the two films.
hmmmm good point... we don't really know for sure I guess... the one in the beginning of Alien could of been a heck of a lot older then the ones in Prometheus... I guess we will never know...CB2001 said:
I think we just need to give them a mulligan on their size. It would have been impressive to make the larger but also more complicated to shoot. I think what was presented is a good compromise.
Because they are in the Jockey kitchen.....Too Much Garlic said:
OH aren't you the funny one! LOLContec said:
Because they are in the Jockey kitchen.....
The scenes with the Elder Engineers all occured in the beginning sequence. They were also all cut from the theatrical release. The Art of Prometheus book has the pictures of them in it. They were actually smaller, and more frail looking than the Adonis-like Engineers we see.CB2001 said:
Charlie
I am finding there is more cool Prometheus concept art and behind the scenes photos online than there is in the Art of Prometheus book. Enough to do a whole other book. Most can be found here.
Prometheus : Concept art / Behind the scenes (Spoilers) (129 images) : movies
And here.
Prometheus Movie Image Gallery
True, but with pictures we've seen, there isn't really a frame of reference for scale with them in comparison to scenes with the one in hibernation in the film and the scene with the Space Jockey in Alien (or to simply put, there's nothing where we can't tell how big they are in comparison to humans in that scene). For all we know they may actually be as big as the one in Alien, while the one sleeping in hibernation is actually much younger and slightly smaller.SSGT Kitten said:
Glad it's not just me. I thought it was a bit Camden Lock Markets, tbh. Fanart-esque.Colin Droidmilk said:
I missed that. Guess I'll just have to see it again. OH NOES.Kit Rae said:
A leap of faith, but a highly reasonable one. And we lack critical info - if the other five stars were all blue-white supergiants...Kit Rae said:
Uh, they do? I haven't read that page yet, but it sounds like an earlier version. Some of the paintings show a more radial complex, but the one we saw was linear. Where would the other hangars go? Not sure the valley could accomodate them except betweem the temples.Kit Rae said:
Resurrection killed the mainstream series, I think. The AVP features were milking the leftovers of two moribund franchises.Kit Rae said:
Mr Webber said:
KR, I think Mr. Webber read your response as being irascible. MW - I think KR meant to just be factual. He's probably quite right, I doubt any of the published figures are terribly accurate.Kit Rae said:
Me? Not in the leastNwerke said:
Arthur max says something like "numerous hangars connected to each of these mounds around the Pyramid, a fleet fleet of ships" in the book. Sadly, no concept art to show this, other than in that early pyramid field painting.Nwerke said:
David said there are other ships in the film and you can see markings for more than one circular hangar around the dome in the film. If you go back to the old Prometheus thread, someone (may have been me) posted a pic from one of the HD trailers where you can see at least one other circle to the right of the dome. If these bases were symmetrical, should be another one the left. Each of the five domes may have had 3 ships parked around them, possibly more behind.
It really makes it appear that this place simply was a weapons depot as the captain said. The black goo bio weapon was probably made right there in these domes, then loaded onto the ships.
Here they are. Hard to tell if they are exactly the same.
Wow kit, that's pretty neat to see. I remember seeing all those and pointing them out to my husband but he was all grumpy because he was tired and hungry lmao
I think there might be a good reason for cutting the scenes with the Elder Engineers. If it is possible for them to have total control over DNA, perhaps they have engineered themselves so they really DON'T age. As in what happened in Brave New World; they look the same and just drop dead one day or they just live forever, regenerating themselves. yeah it is a stretch, but not that far.
Charlie
Theoretically, we know how NOW. It's just not safe as it tends to cause some nasty cancer.SSGT Kitten said:
Once we figure out how to stop/counteract THAT however, we could (in theory) all look like we were in our early twenties for eternity (barring traumatic injury or accident).
Yes, but those three films have a large Predator element, if we throw them in all together it would be plausible to include possible Predator universe stoylines in future Prometheus movies as Fox might, not that i can see it.Kit Rae said:
So i guess the SHORT answer to my original question, Is $100mill profit considered enough for sequel territory? Maybe.
I can't see there being any chance of that - it would almost *have* to do much bigger numbers than that. The figure so far already are above that but it's still yet to reach 2x (claimed) budget - $227M worldwide. DVD/BR obviously will take it over but I'm becoming doubtful the final take will be enough to prompt a lot of studio enthusiasm, or at least we could expect Prometheus 2 to have a much reduced budget. Got to stress I'm no expert, there are people on here who could comment on a much more informed basis and I will defer to them if they do.Mr Webber said:
KR - thanks for the pics - somehow I'd taken the larger arc as being the perimeter of the hanger. Stupid of me, the ship is 1000' or so in length while the temple is much bigger than that, over twice that IIRC.
Even so though, the rough ground begins quite close to the sides of the temples. If those other circles are actually hangers then the Engineers were really pushing the limits of safety - they could be blocked by erosional debris by now. (The valley itself is clearly erosional - the Engineers weren't exactly building for the ages here. However impressive their technology might be the site is a risky one.)
Of course it would be quite possible that other ship designs are also hangered. Smaller ones perhaps.
The diameter of the other circles does look smaller to me, but hard to tell. The cloud shadows and low resolution make it appear the mountains at the sides are closer, but they were actually quite far in the film. There was a LOT of details in those line features on the ground, so this is one that will take some study when the BR disk comes out.
Here the scale layout cross section.
The whole cross section image can be found here.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--B0EgRAoD7...ept+art+01.jpg
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I have said before, I am willing to wager a sequel was in the cards prior to this films release. And yet again I do see a face on the top of that pyramid instead of a skull.
It's not bettable really - we already KNOW that was the case, but the reality depends on the take.
When do you see the face? Check the shot just before the storm hits - it's clearly a skull in that.
It is a face in most (if not all) of the concept art I have seen. At some point they decided to make it a skull. The very first closeup of the head is when the the crew arrives at the dome. Hard to tell in that shot, but just a few seconds later we get another one, same profile as the art above. No nose sticking out. All the other shots prior to the storm just show a skull. Fits in better with the whole idea of this being a very dangerous weapons facility, and that being a constant reminder to the engineers who ran it.
I have found over 210 pieces of Prometheus concept art posted online now, and more turning up every few days. None of it is found in the art book, which has another 400 or so images, but a lot of it is more interesting than what they chose for the book, especially the space ship designs.
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And I would suggest the current revenue plus anticipated ancillary revenue from DVD release will be sufficient.Nwerke said:
And it is a face in an overhead shot just before they leave the vehicles.
the "face" debate will seemingly never end. I just watched those scenes on a screener (yeah I know, but I'm buying the BR disk too) We have beat it to death I think, but that overhead shot is kind of face like, but lighting and angle affect what you see. About 40 seconds before that is the first closeup, in side profile, and there is no nose. It just flat there. Not 20 seconds after the overhead shot we get direct shot looking at the front, showing the skull eye and nose holes. That's all pre-storm.
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