Paradise (Prometheus Sequel)

LOL. I'm on board.

Good news, looks like we can squeeze a band in for the meeting.........

Speculating on a potential bridge between storylines, I keep thinking of a shot with the still under construction Nostromo in the background, just a quick reference and thats it, big on the Yutani thing at the minute, this is simplistic but a start. If a trilogy is planned, it might make sense to do a lot of stuff back on Earth before dealing with the more ethereal issues of creation in the finale.

I am curious how they plan to handle the story of Shaw and David. It'll be difficult to handle something so big with only two characters that the audience can empathize with.

As for your comment about the Nostromo, it wouldn't surprise me if that ship was actually older than Prometheus. That may be a way of explaining the technological differences. Prometheus was obviously top of the line, but everyone's making the assumption that Nostromo was a new(ish) ship in Alien, when there's no evidence to that effect.. the ship may be forty or fifty years old by the time we see it. I think a mention was made somewhere that Weyland Industries was already well into various mining operations all over explored space, before Prometheus.

Jedi2016 said:

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I am curious how they plan to handle the story of Shaw and David. It'll be difficult to handle something so big with only two characters that the audience can empathize with.

Even more difficult when one of those characters is

Spoiler:

a head.

The rest is there, she just has to fix it. 3PO style.

Your right Jedi, i get caught up with trying to line up dates without factoring in the age of the Nostromo at the time. Imagine being a writer and your brief was to pick the story up with Shaw and Davids departure......wow, where to start? massive canvas to fill.

Will this one have an ending?

I have a feeling that any future offerings will deviate further away from Alien and further into an original story without referencing the original franchise, save for maybe a certain distress signal that would get sent towards the end of the story.

Any future story will need to destroy everything on LV-233. Otherwise, Weyland company could just have sent new ships there, instead of searching the galaxy for other potential encounters.

Jedi2016 said:

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I am curious how they plan to handle the story of Shaw and David. It'll be difficult to handle something so big with only two characters that the audience can empathize with.

Lindelof's recent quote - about Shaw's surmise regarding the Jockey's plans for Earth not necessarily being correct - gives me hope that we may yet meet sympathetic Jockeys. That would be nice.

Of course he also claims he and Scott actually did work out a backstory and really do know what is going on. Now the man is just fantasizing.

As for your comment about the Nostromo, it wouldn't surprise me if that ship was actually older than Prometheus. That may be a way of explaining the technological differences.

Eh, I hope not. It's a trillion-buck science expedition, versus a tug. That explanation works fine for me. If Nostromo was built in the 2070s or 2080s, doesn't that pre-date the invention of FTL in this timeline? Not that I think they'll stick to any established timeline, but whatever. And it could always be a converted interplanetary tug, I guess.

Boogeyman13 said:

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I have a feeling that any future offerings will deviate further away from Alien and further into an original story without referencing the original franchise, save for maybe a certain distress signal that would get sent towards the end of the story.

I rather hope you are right. And I could live without the distress signal, too. Why can't that remain a completely unrelated incident? That would give us a bigger sandbox. I hate zero-degrees-of-separation universes.

TMG, no need to blow up LV 223. You could surmise just as easily that the location of this world was known only to the crew, or that a database accident loses it.

Shaw's signal gives the game away, though.

Id be OK with the stories, thats right hope theres a hole mess of em, stay away from the Alien universe, just toss a few bones for old time sake.

Jeyl, if I was Weyland, those are exactly my conditions for funding Shaw and Holloway. Because I'm barking mad.

Seriously, that sounds exactly par for the course for decisionmaking standards in this movie.

Jeyl, if I was Weyland, those are exactly my conditions for funding Shaw and Holloway. Because I'm barking mad.

Seriously, that sounds exactly par for the course for decisionmaking standards in this movie.

Oh gawd not these double posts again...did we ever get a clue what's causing this?

What makes Shaw think she can find the space jockey home planet? Plug David's head into the ships computer?

Will a space jockey hyper sleep chamber work on a human?

Something has to happen to LV 223. It would explain why in Alien, the company has instructed Ash to get the lifeform no matter what. Something happens to LV 223 and this unknown wreckage on LV 426 that has gone unnoticed might be all that is left of the space-jockey-black-goo-creatures.

rodneyfaile said:

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What makes Shaw think she can find the space jockey home planet? Plug David's head into the ships computer?

Will a space jockey hyper sleep chamber work on a human?

For that matter, wouldn't David be able to access their technology/computer system for answers as to why they want to wipe us out and thus save her the trip?

Ok, just throwing this out there. If the Space Jockeys created life on Earth, then there's nothing against the idea of them creating life on other worlds in the same manner, and see what evolution brings from their DNA. Perhaps this could be a thread in the follow up??

I think that goes without saying. I'm rather looking forward to exploring this further.

Perhaps the reason for our destruction, is we were the poorer or less evolved race amongst all of the different planets?!?! Or perhaps we are just one of several experiments that has came to the end of the road.
Or, and here is a long shot, prey like the aliens were for the predators?

All in all, if this is possible, it will mean, more cool alien races and more questions!!

micdavis said:

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Will this one have an ending?

I would settle for them starting to shoot the film and finishing it with the same script they started with.

Jeyl said:

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Yeah. Most trillion dollar expeditions don't leave any records as to where their funds were going or where the ship was headed. And most scientists never ever publish their findings about their discoveries that were found on Earth. No. Let's keep it all a secret, go to that mysterious place where the origin of all human life might be, and hope to god nothing goes wrong because if it does, nobody back home will have any clue as to what we were doing in the first place.

The more we try to figure this movie out, the more stupid it gets.

The explanation to that all was in script revision #26 and was left on the cutting room floor.

Shaw and David go to the Engineers home world. They get their collective asses kicked. The Engineers are now really pissed that their offspring made it to their homeworld. Now thay are again dead set on destroying humanity. They send out another ship to LV 223 to collect some black goo and send it to Earth. Little does this lone Engineer know is that there is black goo and a hugger of some sort that Shaw and David brought with them unknowingly. The Engineer is attacked, impregnated and dies. The ship crash lands on LV 426. The new ALIEN mates with Shaw and lays eggs. Before Shaw dies, she sends out a warning signal.

Eh, the best I could do in five minutes of thinking about it....