Thank you for illustrating my point. Everyone has their own idea of what superman should look like. Heck even I do and even though it is different than Cavill, I still love the new design. I'm not anchoring myself to any one incarnation. It is ok to like more than one. It takes balls to break the paradigm. Good for them for doing it. It doesn't mean other people should feel superman is dead. Common. My 10 year old girls aren't that dramatic.Primrodo said:
However look at all three of those Supermen...Reeve, Reeves and Cain all had the classic look with a neat spin...this costume is nothing more than an over designed "modern" spin that actually does a few things very wrong.
The whole blue unitard with weird spider-man swirls that point towards the crotch is not really Superman. The problems people had with Returns' costume had the same problems, over designed \S/ (and the billion he had on the shoes, belt and the main symbol) fruit rollup cape and over textured...people never really grooved to it. Superman's costume does not need to be over designed and complex like any hero and when it tries, it looks odd, and often "wrong."
It comes down to more than just the red undies being gone, it just looks weird with solid blue and a floating buckle, serving zero purpose...dramatic or not...its not good design sense. The comics even compensated the lack of the undies with a wide red belt motif.
Wow, that suit is so terrible it makes the 'Superman Returns' suit look like the Christopher Reeves suit.
Maybe it will look better in a moving picture instead of still photographs.
I'm courious to know what exactly the "pattern" is on the suit?
I doubt it would be the \S/ like in Returns.
thoughts?
What if it's just a texture? Does everything have to be a pattern?nwjedidave said:
couldn't a texture be considered a pattern?nickytea said:
from dictionary.com
pat·tern
[pat-ern; Brit. pat-n] Show IPA
noun
1. a decorative design, as for wallpaper, china, or textile fabrics, etc.
I like the costume but I feel it's a bit too alien. Less is more for Superman, you don't need a complex design, specially for parts covered by the cape. If the plot has the suit being from Krypton I can accept it better.
Brovo on our comment.Primrodo said:
Ya know, since our heros seem to need to be updated with their costume designs and attitude to be more hip to a younger audience, maybe we should consider taking away Tarzan's lioncloth and put him in skinny leg jeans -can't have his junk hangin' all over the place y'know- and have him call eveyone, even Jane, "Dude." Or even take away the Lone Ranger's mask away and have him wear some spiffy sunglasses instead. Ooops... that one had been tried before and failed.
This is just an impersonation of what seems to be Hollywood thinking.
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Now that I read the explainations, I'm feeling old and an unwanted yesterday Superman fan now, thanks
I think it strays a bit far from the classic style and has adopted like Random said a more alien look. But its too hard to tell from pictures in my opinion, especially set photos. I think you need to see it in action in a trailer before you can fully judge it. Through a camera lens, the look of the suit can change completely.
Not to mention post production. Who knows if their going to use CGI on the suit like Green Lantern.
Maybe Abraham Lincoln would look cool in a motorcycle jacket.
But that would be innappropriate and so is this.
My wife immediately went ugh! when I showed her.
The only get out of jail free card I will give them is if this were a special costume used for being in space or something. Supes has put on some special stuff for certain tasks.
But probably the whole movie he looks like an accessorized waffle.
I hope that pic is a fake.YenChih Lin said:
I try to explain to you. When I was between 4-6 years old, my father introduced me to Superman comics. It was that time where Curt Swan, John Byrne and Dan Juergens drew Superman. Dec 1978 was when Superman the movie came out and my birthyear, so I was just too young to see it on screen, I was just entering the new world. Later my dad rented all the videos from Superman I-IV (fortunately I forgot most of IV). Nevertheless, Chris Reeve was the pure embodiement of Superman I saw in the comics and in the movies. It was like he was breaking the fourth wall and came to life. I believed that a man could fly. It made a profound and deep impression of how Superman should be, he used his brain instead of brawns. He is kind and helpful. He is a hope of overcoming our human shortcomings. That's why this image of Reeve's Superman portrayal made such a long lasting impression into the cultural consciousness of how Superman acts and behaves.
The poster actually looks good - the other photos, not so
Not laziness, but if Synder is all about show and no substance like Watchmen, I would say that the Superman franchise died of greediness after Superman II.
Superman should look HEROIC, not like some murderhobo without a shotgun, wearing a bad wetsuit.
Everyone keeps saying that Superman is fine and doesn't need updating, but how many of you have been collecting the comics regularly? I am a huge fan...a freak about Superman, but the stories more often than not suck in my opinion. My initial reaction was negative based on his stupid looking hair, but it seems to be toned down more. These latest photos are better and at least they are trying something different with the character. My Superman is Chris Reeves, but I am honestly ready for something new.
And the comic book stories have what to do with the changes they've made for the film? Certain hero types have their time - Superman may not be the best selling title- but when some guy rushes into a fire to save a baby, a group of people try to regain control of an airplane or a young kid stops a mugger from attacking an old woman - his name is the first that comes up. And as corny as this may sound - i personally believe a certain level of respect is due to him and his traditional costume.
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I would say the comics may be relevant judging by this costume and the re launch costume. And I would rather see a Superman that is in his late thirties or maybe a Kingdom Come or Red Son adaptation, but that doesn't mean I think this Superman would not save babies or rescue people from fires. Let's see what Cavill does with the material he's given.
Totally agree. Its best to see what's done with it than judge a movie based on the costume.oujala said:
Dare I say the suit is actually growing on me a little. Don't get me wrong as nothing will beat the classic look, but I kinda like this fresh new take. Christopher Reeve was the superman I grew up with and I'll always see him as my favourit Superman. My fingers are crossed for this new movie but if it's crap we still have the classics.
To bad I'm not back home on Vancouver Island. Supes is gonna be filming in pretty much my parents' backyard:
CTV British Columbia - Next Superman movie to be filmed in B.C. - CTV News
Of course, stuff is going to be filmed in Vancouver as well.
I read a post somewhere online that made reference to Synder "hearing" some of the costume outcry. Could we get a small change? (maybe CG colored?)
I do agree that it seems that Superman stole one of Spiderman's suits and slapped a weird looking S on there :P I am not sure how all this texture modernizing the suit(I know this is really just the rebooted comic suit also) and also they keep trying to give him armor ala Batman. Superman is NOT Batman....STOP trying to make him so. Snyder is a horrific director and I have no doubt with many casting choices that are questionable(Lawrence Fishbourne as Perry White, Amy Adams as Lois Lane and Russell Crowe as Jor-El...WTF), this movie along with a Goyer script(who has given us such gems as Jumper) will not be what they want it to be. I liked Reeve portrayal and grew up with that but I do not mind the Cain version or even Welling's take(do not even get me started on why he did not wear the suit in the Finale). Heck even Routh looked better IMO but I really have no hope that this movie will be good. Even my boys(who are 12 and 8) have seen the pics and when I asked them their opinion(not hearing my own), they said that's not Superman. My 63 yo FIL saw the pics of this new suit and said that's not Superman. I think that pretty much sums it up right there.....
No yellow "S" on the cape,
No red trunks,
Crappy "S" shield on his chest!
But, the Henry Cavill does "look" like a pumped up Superman.
George
I will be honest. The suit is such a departure from the original story history that I am in no hurry to go see this when it comes out. Because it means that they are probably willing to make other "compromises" in the history and story line of the Superman character. THAT has been the problem with the past franchises. I can always hope but its notr looking good to me right now.
Big flaming donkey testicles.
I'd like to say I'm above it, that a good story will trump a stupidly altered version of the suit, but all that will do for me is exacerbate how wrong the suit is. Superman is a national ****ing symbol. This is kinda like putting neon lights on the flag or changing the blue behind the stars to this dull ass blue color. Its just wrong, stupid and unnecessary.
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