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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #26

    Psab keel said: View Post
    Does he have any other concepts left?
    No. And the ones he had, he borrowed from someone else.

    Reading that article, I can't help but think of the "Everybody Loves Raymond" episode where Robert started dating a black woman.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #27

    Thank God! He raped his fictions often enough... I would forgive him if he would release the unaltered OT and let another director make reboots of the prequel movies. Besides that: So long Lucas
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #28

    The arrogance of some people is astounding.

    YOU didn't like the PT so NO more should be made, regardless of how many people liked them.

    Thanks.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #29

    nickytea said: View Post
    Now I have to wait until he dies before we can have more big-screen Star Wars stories. In part because of the rampant stupidity and lack of consideration shown by fans with a entitlement complex. Great.
    For this very large favour which we have done for you, you are most welcome.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #30

    micdavis said: View Post
    YOU didn't like the PT so NO more should be made, regardless of how many people liked them.
    Couldn't have put it better myself.

    If this makes me a bad guy, then I'm 110% happy to be a bad guy.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #31

    Nwerke said: View Post
    For this very large favour which we have done for you, you are most welcome.
    The only favor you've "done" me is the reminder and appreciation that I will never be so blatantly inconsiderate and selfishly destructive of the interests of others.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #32

    Nwerke said: View Post
    Couldn't have put it better myself.

    If this makes me a bad guy, then I'm 110% happy to be a bad guy.
    Abso-frickin-lutely. Whiney fans didn't ruin Star Wars. George Lucas did. All whiney fans did was point it out. I'm thrilled he won't be making any more. I consider it damage control.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #33

    nickytea said: View Post
    The only favor you've "done" me is the reminder and appreciation that I will never be so blatantly inconsiderate and selfishly destructive of the interests of others.
    It's Lucas own fault for being lazy. If he had spent half as much effort with the script as he had on the effects he could have made the greatest series of movies ever.

    He didn't. He slapped a bunch of production design and effects together loosely with a story, and after the initial "ooo's and aaaa's" of a new Star
    Wars movie wore off, people realized that they are crap.

    so Lucas blames the fans, and says he isn't making any more... and you agree it's the fans fault for not liking what he created when he had every resource available to make whatever he wanted?
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #34

    tgreco said: View Post
    He slapped a bunch of production design and effects together loosely with a story, and after the initial "ooo's and aaaa's" of a new Star
    Wars movie wore off, people realized that they are crap.
    You know why he did it that way? Because that is how he made the original trilogy.

    He didnt lose his touch, you just got older.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #35

    so you're saying the stories for the prequels are on par with the original tirlogy?

    That the Phantom Menace is a character driven and compelling as Star Wars (or A New Hope if you prefer)
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #36

    rodneyfaile said: View Post
    You know why he did it that way? Because that is how he made the original trilogy.

    He didnt lose his touch, you just got older.
    Rubbish. You speak as if only kids appreciated the film in 1977. What rot. Stanley Kubrick was middle-aged when he saw and liked SW. The idea of this master admiring the PT is laughable, however. I suspect that what Kubrick liked about SW was that it was a well-crafted, perfectly-toned film that spoke a universal language. He would seek these qualities in vain in the PT.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #37

    What is most interesting to me is that GL actually does know how fans feel about him.

    I really believed he was sheltered from all this by the 'yes men'. Its actually quite refreshing to see that he is not.

    weequay
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    oops
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #39

    Lucas seized control of his movies from the studios only to discover that the fanboys could still give him script notes. “Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”
    sorry, but Lucas just sounds like a cry baby

    if he can't take the boos with the cheers then that's on him... not those booing or cheering
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #40

    Screw all of you naysayers, I like Jar Jar Binks. Meesa Likes that scene where he gets his tongue caught in the pod engine coupler beam and it goes numb...........of course I'm a dentist. LOL.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #41

    Im just saying many people regard Star Wars to be a lot better than it is. Nostalgia is not just relevant to when you were a kid.

    If Lucas made another Star Wars movie, would you go see it?

    I would.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #42

    I sympathize with Lucas, but on the other hand, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.


    Look, if you're gonna go mucking about with works that are cherished the world over to suit your own flights of fancy, you've got to expect to catch a bit of crap for it. If you're not up for that, hey, stay home.


    Personally, at this point, it's less the constant tinkering that bothers me and more the constant tinkering while ALSO refusing to release "archival" versions alongside the new releases. Go ahead and tinker all you like, like an old man forever adjusting this or that in his house. But what Lucas seems to fail to recognize is that art is not solely HIS property. It's also the property of the public.

    U.S. Copyright law actually reflects this, in theory, given that works can eventually enter the Public Domain and the rights to those works are no longer the exclusive rights of the author.



    At any rate, given what I've taken away from his recent work, I won't personally be shedding a tear that there won't be any more George Lucas helmed Star Wars products, although I guess I can sort of sympathize with the fans who desperately want more SW product. I mean, if he changes his mind and goes ahead with other stuff, bully for him. I'd probably skip 'em anyway at this point, though.


    That said, don't go blaming fan criticism for Lucas' own decision that he doesn't want to make the films any more. That's HIS decision and HIS alone. Nobody "made" him stop making film. He has now CHOSEN to do that. I mean, in all honesty, how many here would stop making props merely because idiots on the internet criticized the quality of your work? Now, how many of you would stop making them if you were also raking in boatloads of cash for your work?

    I'm gonna guess you'd say "Pfft. Who cares what those jagoffs think? I'm makin' bank, yo." Or something to that effect. It's a choice. YOUR choice. Or rather, Lucas' choice in this case.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #43

    micdavis said: View Post
    YOU didn't like the PT so NO more should be made, regardless of how many people liked them.
    In that case I apologize to the three of you.
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    In that case I apologize to the three of you.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #45

    I hope he makes more movies like THX 1138. Small movies instead of trying to hit home runs with everything and the kitchen sink would be nice.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #46

    Given the fandom and conventions as well the outpouring of sci-fi enthusiast, I think the one that you cannot please all of the time is far outweighed by the ones George can. Sorry to see that it is affecting him but he should know better, especially given the studio crowd mentality. Hate to see this as the excuse for him to leave the big films behind.

    But I would say overall, that he should do what he enjoys, period. He has made himself to have that capability, in a capacity not many others can equal in comparison.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #47

    He's in the wrong business top not have thick skin. Shame..all he has to do is release a nice HD copy of the unaltered films to make fans happy, but he'd rather retire than satisfy the fans he created.

    He should realize it was his hunger and drive that created Star Wars..and some new blood brought in to direct/ write could sure have helped bring that 'edge' back. He could produce, consult..whatever..but he's become what he struggled against in his youth..an in flexible corporation. Shame.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #48

    nickytea said: View Post
    The only favor you've "done" me is the reminder and appreciation that I will never be so blatantly inconsiderate and selfishly destructive of the interests of others.
    Oh, get over yourself. You would inflict the godawfulness of another three latter-day Star Wars movies on the world but it's US who are the inconsiderate and selfish ones? Gahhh! And it WOULD be another three, you know they only come in trilogies. Seven and a half hours of godawful, godawful crapola. And you think we should welcome that prospect.

    Now, obviously, we don't have to go see them. And I wouldn't, I absolutely would not. But how am I going to avoid seeing the trailers, the random clips on Youtube, the stilted exchanges of dialogue, the sub-par production design, the crappy merchandising everywhere, etc? Some of that stuff would be around for the rest of my life. And it's gonna be like fingernails on a blackboard. So, who is the inconsiderate and selfish one again? I'll argue you suffer less from the world forgoing three more ****ty films than we would suffer from the world NOT forgoing them.

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    You know why he did it that way? Because that is how he made the original trilogy.

    He didnt lose his touch, you just got older.
    Get outta town. Star Wars and Empire are brilliant films. And if all three prequels were only as good as Jedi, they wouldn't rate the hatred they get.

    Think about that. Expectations weren't that high. George only had to make movies as good as the Ewok one from the OT. And he couldn't.

    rodneyfaile said: View Post
    If Lucas made another Star Wars movie, would you go see it?

    I would.
    Since I find the PTs actually unbearable, that's an easy AWW HELLZ NAWWW.
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #49

    With him stepping out, perhaps there is a chance the original unedited SW could see the light of day in a modern format.

    I do have an image of a LFL board meeting with a very old GL, ranting an raving about, "THAT FILM".
    Board members saying, "yes George, what ever you want."

    "He does that every meeting, we released the original SW years ago."
    "We tell him that we keep making his requested changes."
    "Last time he wanted to change Luke into a little girl from Kansas."
    "We just showed the Wizard of Oz, he said he was so happy we left in the Ewoks."
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    Jan 18, 2012 - Re: Lucas to retire? #50

    vaderdarth said: View Post
    Screw all of you naysayers, I like Jar Jar Binks. Meesa Likes that scene where he gets his tongue caught in the pod engine coupler beam and it goes numb...........of course I'm a dentist. LOL.
    This did provide TPM with a good line for 3P0 - some putdown about 'that JarJar creature' iirc.
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