The Lone Ranger (2013)

First look at The Lone Ranger and Tonto:

he's just come from the dry cleaners i guess, given how clean he is.

Get ready for a peyote laced Tonto who will be taking trips to the spirit world every 5 minutes. That said, I kind of like they way they look.

Johny De...uh, Tonto: "Kimosabe, how you get suit so clean?"

I feel like this shot will be right before a final showdown. They've had time to regroup and plan something and here they are ready to head into action.

Honestly, mainly because I can't imagine Depp will be in warpaint ( which i don't like ) the entire movie, and yes, the Ranger looks way too clean.

Just another rant, I can't stand seeing people say he looks like Jack just because he has long hair and a bandana. Is he supposed to have a buzz cut? The man could decide to grow his hair long and grow out facial hair on his own accord and people would probably accuse him of 'going of the deep and end thinking he is becoming jack sparrow'. Don't get me wrong, I love Pirates and Jack but I think it's unfortunate that it's such a strong character that people feel the need to compare everything else to it. It's as stupid as saying 'his voice sounds the same'. *sigh*

Regardless, I don't like westerns, I don't like Armie Hammer and I know nothing about the Lone Ranger but I'll be seeing it anyways. So +1 for them on casting Depp who makes everything at least entertaining to watch. And who is, btw, of Cherokee heritage.

So no Native Americans were available to play the role, and the casting director decided the only solution was Johnny Depp in white (warpaint) face.



PASS ON THIS!

Kerr Avon said:

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So no Native Americans were available to play the role, and the casting director decided the only solution was Johnny Depp in white (warpaint) face.



PASS ON THIS!

I was thinking the same thing. The Native Americans should be raising hell about this but don't seem to be. I know they went after Disney for Pocahontas when it came out. I'm pretty sure they'd find a few Native Americans if they wanted but they'd rather over pay Depp and use his name as a draw for crowds. This movie already looks pretty bad.

Kerr Avon said:

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So no Native Americans were available to play the role, and the casting director decided the only solution was Johnny Depp in white (warpaint) face.



PASS ON THIS!

That was my first thought. I mean, maybe he'll be good, but, come on. They couldn't find ANY Native American to play the role?

Not enthused.

I do understand the general feeling of not casting a native american for the role of Tonto, but come on its a movie.

Its going to be full of historical inaccuracies anyway such as speech patterns etc..

I say hold judgement until we see the movie and enjoy it for what it is, a no thinking pop corn movie.

Depp's grandmother was Cherokee, does that count?

brutalmagic said:

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I do understand the general feeling of not casting a native american for the role of Tonto, but come on its a movie.

Its going to be full of historical inaccuracies anyway such as speech patterns etc..

I say hold judgement until we see the movie and enjoy it for what it is, a no thinking pop corn movie.

This.

Personally, I can't think of a prominent Native American actor that would assist Armie Hammer's casting ( a relative unknown ) in bringing in money for a high budget Hollywood action flick.

It was almost shelved because Verbinski had the budget set too high for how he wanted to make the movie. Hiring another relative unknown so some people are 'okay with it' would not bode well for the gross.

We all know it. For this generation, and this type of movie, the audience draw is already small in comparison to the money it needs to make. Having Depp in it ( who has a 98% chance of giving an entertaining performance ) is their biggest draw.

Oh...just wanted to add this... thoughts?

Maybe that's Depp's costume from the new 21 Jump Street movie?

Yeah, I know it's just a movie and all, but the notion of "We have to stick a big name in it so we can justify the big expense and include a ton of 'splosions and CGI" is, to me, the problem.

Make a lower budget film and put in better actors. That's not to say Depp is bad or anything. I'm sure he'll turn in a watchable performance as he usually does. But still, it's just more of the risk-averse BS that irritates me about Hollywood.

jarvis said:

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Depp's grandmother was Cherokee, does that count?

How much Cherokee? Full blood or even remotely close to it? He might be 1/16th, but how many 1/16th Cherokee were there at that time period?

I think it's kind of cool they used a relative unknown for the main character and one of the biggest names in Hollywood to portray the sidekick. Even if they didn't hire a full fledged Native American, they considered the role of the character very important to have someone like Depp fill it ( Plus the money yada yada yada ) and to have an audience invest in that character.

Would people be happier if they did cast a Native American who nobody knew and nobody cared to go see? Who because of their relative anonymity, made the character of Tonto have less of an impact with general audiences? You'd have the crowd like the ones complaining here who would be happier ( of which whom maybe the older Lone Ranger fans would still pay to see it, but I doubt those new to it would ), but for the general audiences the fact is there is less appeal.

Good lord. It's one photo and the hater train rolls into town full steam. WOW.

It feels like the Prometheus thread in here.

I don't think Depp has any pirates in his family, does he? How about people who sell books? Or lizards? I don't think he was related to John Dillinger, and I doubt very seriously he has any old english detectives in his lineage. How about killer barbers who liked to sing?

dressed as immaculately as that he looks more like the loan ranger, offering excellent rates of interest on loans taken out over a 5 year period with a fixed 12.3% APR, free sheriff badge with every application

Noeland said:

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I don't think Depp has any pirates in his family, does he? How about people who sell books? Or lizards?

Can white people be pirates? Yes. Can white people sell books? Yes. Can white people sell lizards? Yes. Can white people be full blooded Native Americans? BZZZZZZZZZT.

And there's the crux of the issue.

I'd just like to see the Ranger in a more "casual" outfit rather than the suit he has on. At least it's not the baby blue tights that Clayton Moore wore though.

I'm sure Depp will provide another entertaining performance, but I would have liked to have seen Adam Beach (Wind Talkers) take on the role of Tonto.

aelynn000 said:

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He also wasn't British.

Though, that he is an invention made by a very creative man...I guess that's debatable. (but at least he got hands).

Wasn't Sean Penn cast as a homosexual in Milk?

AND HEY! I've just now realized that they cast an AUSTRALIAN to play a CANADIAN as Wolverine!!! But...but...there are so many good Canadian actors!! Why ignore the stars of my country!? D: Technically speaking, Depp has Native heritage and is an American... so he's closer to Tonto than Hugh Jackman is to Wolverine.

There are white British people.

Tonto is an invention of a man, and the invention is of a Native American, not a white person. A distinct, core, essential part of his character.

Sean Penn may very well be homosexual.

Australian is a citizenship, of which anyone of any heritage could potentially be.

But a white man can't be a full blooded Native American. You might as well start putting black face on white actors for roles intended to be black. The only exception to the case would be "Tropic Thunder" and that's because it is the very parody Hollywood and why this is wrong.